Are the Denver Broncos Looking at Former Kansas City Chiefs CB Patrick Surtain?

by Joel Thorman on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 AM CDT Comment 19 comments

According to Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, the Denver Broncos are being linked to former Kansas City Chiefs defensive back Patrick Surtain. Here's the quick blurb on Surtain:

Among other cornerbacks unemployed: ex-Dolphins Sam Madison (a guest instructor recently for Miami's Lingerie Football League team) and Patrick Surtain (has been linked to Denver).

After reading this I did a quick Google search and found nothing linking Surtain and the Broncos. But don't dismiss the report so quickly. Surtain played in Miami for seven years before coming to Kansas City so Mr. Jackson could be in a position to know.

Intra-divisional signings can be important because a player would bring with him an intimate knowledge of his previous team's inner-workings. Things like playbook language and knowledge of defensive and offensive formations can be vital, especially to teams playing each other twice a year.

In fact, the Patriots, coincidentally (or not) the former employer for both Scott Pioli and Josh McDaniels, were known for signing players who previously played for their opponent in the week coming up.

This isn't the first time, however, that the Chiefs and Broncos have taken a look-see at one another's players. Casey Wiegmann played in Kansas City for seven years before heading to Denver. Before the Chiefs made the move for Cassel, the Broncos were trying to make a deal for him.

Here are a few other moves I recall these two teams making recently:

Chiefs release C.J. Jones; Broncos pick him up
Travis Daniels worked out for the Chiefs on a Sunday then the Broncos on the following Monday. He agreed to terms with the Chiefs.
Chiefs hired Ronnie Bradford, who was the secondary and special teams coach for the Broncos the previous six seasons.
Broncos hired Matt Russell from the Patriots as their Director of College Scouting. Russell is widely known as the guy who "found" Matt Cassel.
Chiefs interviewed former Denver GM Ted Sundquist before hiring Scott Pioli.

So, don't be surprised if Surtain does end up in Denver this season. It wouldn't be the first time the Broncos called up a former Chief.

H/T tomahawk44 in the FanShots

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I remember back in the 90's

When ever a good player would become a FA I knew they would end up with one of the teams in the AFC West. Don’t remember them all but the big ones were Neil smith, Rich Gannon and Donnie Edwards.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jul 8, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll take that a step further

Perhaps Surtain will follow in the footsteps of trthe illustrious Dale Carter.

Mobile commenting from a doctor’s office that is running 30+ minutes behind… time well spent!

by chiefstatnut on Jul 8, 2009 11:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

Now when are you buying me that iPhone?

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Jul 8, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not as big

But also Eddie Kennison, was a donkey until he joined the Chiefs.

by xfatdannx on Jul 8, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denver would be the last place Id want to see Surtain land..

he may be getting old but like you said he knows the Chiefs and he would be a good mentor to Alphonso Smith…could you imagine learning from Bailey and Surtain?

by tomahawk44 on Jul 8, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Our whole organization has changed

Let him go anywhere in the AFC West and give them last years info. It’s worthless!
Everyone has a good point about taking players that know an opponents systems, but slow down on it when referring to Surtain.

by TonyG88 on Jul 8, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Was going to say the same thing, this team, this organization has changed so much this offseason nothing will be the same. Go ahead Surtain, tell ’em! (only if you land in denver please) :)

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Jul 8, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree Pat Surtain has no info on the new Chiefs playbook, schemes, etc. He’s old and didn’t do much for us as a Chief. They guy got beat out by Maurice Leggett. I really don’t care where he goes.

by dwill_pittst on Jul 8, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carr

he was beat out by Carr – I think Surtain and Flowers were actually the starters in Week One, but when Surtain got hurt, Carr came in, and Surtain never won the job back.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 8, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Both right...

Carr took his starting job and didn’t give it back but when Surtain came back he was nickel cb and Leggatt eventually took that away from him too as he slid down the depth chart.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Jul 8, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

The offseason is making me sleepy.

by Spiderwomn69 on Jul 8, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bless Patrick's pointy little head. I appreciate

his time in Kansas City, but the poor guy can’t outrun anyone anymore. Shoot, I think I can outrun Surtain. If the Bronco’s sign him they will only get dated mentoring from an individual who was here during the Herm Edwards years. I think his value to them will be limited at best.

by G.L. on Jul 8, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Right?

I’m down for challenging Surtain to a foot race. I don’t know why anybody would be worried about him playing for opposing teams because though he can still can catch the dude plays much older than he is. If the Broncos sign him it will be another sign that Joshy boy ain’t got a clue. I suspect this McDaniel’s version of the Mike Brown signing

by KansasCityShuffle on Jul 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wtf are you saying in that 2nd sentence?

by xfatdannx on Jul 8, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Totally agree...

… with you about his lack of speed. Was killed last year by fast receivers.

I’d guess he’d come in 2nd in a foot race between himself, Ty Law, and Sammy Knight.

Not to mention the fact that the ENTIRE defensive scheme has changed.

Maybe he can tip the Broncos off about how nice the KC locker room is, but that’s all the valuable knowledge of our system he’s got.

by Troydrake on Jul 8, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope they sign him...

Surtain is beyond washed up.

Viva 65tosspowertrap! The master of incoherent, nonsensical ramblings.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jul 8, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Say Wha...

Intra-divisional signings can be important because a player would bring with him an intimate knowledge of his previous team’s inner-workings. Things like playbook language and knowledge of defensive and offensive formations can be vital, especially to teams playing each other twice a year.

How can he know any of this since he is not a part of the team…. Inner-workings? Formations? How would Pat know anything like this?

by bonesjackson on Jul 8, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Patrick Surtain

Wasn’t Patrick Surtain like injured for most of the season? I’d be surprised if he signed with the broncos, there was a reason he was released when Scott Pioli became general manager

by AFCWESTCHAMPSFORCHIEFS on Jul 8, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs