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AP Question: Why Would the Broncos Even Consider Moving Brandon Marshall?

In this (much too long) off-season, AP will periodically ask representatives from various teams to answer some key questions concerning situations that will affect the Chiefs either directly or indirectly. The goal? To better understand the upcoming season and the rationale behind the movement of certain teams or lack of movement in others.

Recently, Stephen (hoosierteacher) over at MileHighReport gave us some great input on our own Chiefs team as he assessed the Chiefs future in the Outsider's Take series. We also recently asked him to weigh in on the key question plaguing the Broncos at this point.

Q: Why would the Broncos even consider moving Brandon Marshall?

A: The answer might surprise you. For the last couple of years, Denver has had some embarrassments with off field issues. If you read the comments over at milehighreport, a lot of the fans seem to be saying that we want high character guys more than superstars. The thinking goes that a team of high quality MEN goes further than a team with a few elite stars.
 
Frankly, I don't think one could find many fans on our site who would take an Owens type person at WR. And every time we turn around, Marshall is embarrassing our team.
 
This is highly related to the Cutler issue. Thanks to our friends in the main stream press, many folks think we traded Cutler for Orton straight up, and for no reason. First, right after Shanahan was fired, Cutler was demanding a trade (before McDaniels was even brought in). Because Cutler refused to talk to the coach, he had to be traded. Denver gave up Cutler for two first round picks and a third, and we gave up a fifth round too and got Orton. As I mentioned in an earlier e-mail, Orton has a better record than Cutler and with a lesser offensive line and receivers. (BTW, a quick read on Bus, Cutler's agent, shows this pattern of behavior for years).
 
Enter Marshall. During his last suspension, he stayed at Cutler's home. They were good friends, and I can understand that he is upset that Cutler is gone. I don't think Denver wants Marshall gone, but Marshall has made it clear that he wants to be traded. This may be hard to do, as Marshall has recently had hip surgery. In fact, some folks suspect his hip surgery is why he is holding out for a trade or a major extension.
 
In my opinion, Denver can do without Marshall. Is he good? Yes, very. But he is always a risk to be suspended or to cost the team. (Last year, teammates had to swarm him in the endzone to prevent him from a touchdown celebration. He was going to pull a glove out of his pants, don it, and give a "fist in the air" salute to celebrate Obama's victory).
 
Many of us agree that our best receiving option remains Eddie Royal. We recall with delight how he played #1 WR against the Raiders (vs CB Deangelo Hall) and torched him play after play (Marshall was suspended). Royal continues to be a dangerous WR on any down. We also still have Stokley, one of the best slot receivers in the game. The rest of our supporting cast (including TEs like Scheffler and Graham) are great in the passing game.
 
Now the question is, do we trade him or bench him? We likely won't get much in a trade. His trade value is far below his talent level. His hip, his arm (which he injured in an off field incident - another story of foolishness), and his suspension issues are a big risk for any team. He faces court again at the start of this year. If we cut him, we don't lose much cap room (he's at the end of his rookie contract). If we bench him, he continue to be a negative distraction. A recent poll at MHR showed most fans leaning towards wanting him out (which even surprised me).
 
So the argument for trading him might be that we get something for him, even if it isn't much.

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Trade him

This dude makes LJ look like the perfect gent.

by FrankPitts on Jul 6, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Bench him

and make him sit in the corner of the owner’s box. Seriously. If he doesn’t want to play for the Broncos, you really think he’ll get some amazing deal next year. Oh wait, there’s always Al Davis….

by SinDonor on Jul 6, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

"Why Would the Broncos Even Consider Moving Jay Cutler?"

I’m not sure you can apply common logic to what Denver does and doesnt do with their new head coach in place. He clearly wants this to be stamped as his tea. That being said I don’t see how Marshall moves unless he’s a total cancer to the locker room and honestly I’m not sure even that will affect the win/loss column for them this year because it will likely be a down year anyway.

Come the end of the season Marshall ends up a free agent if a new cba is in place at which point the Broncos likely franchise him and with no cba he’s RFA. Either way it puts Denver in a much better position to trade him. I think he still has a good year because the guy wants to earn a paycheck and there will be some team that will overlook the drama to secure an elite young WR same as the Cutler situation.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Jul 6, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I love how delerious donkeys fans are about Orton...

He’s had a better record than Cutler you know…
Too bad most of those wins were on a team with an unbelievable defense. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the D out in Denver isn’t quite at elite status.

by Chief Crazy on Jul 6, 2009 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Chicago didnt have the receiving targets that Denver had either.

You never know about Orton, I don’t think he is that great of a QB but, he aint that bad either. With Royals and Scheffter, he could be a good player, especially behind that offensive line. I understand that the Donkeys kept the old O-line coach and they have consistently had one of the best lines in the league for a long time.
I know everyone is seeing the obvious implosion of the Denver team but, I am not going to judge until I see them play. I would rather not count them out until I see that they are as bad as we all think they will be.
It really doesn’t matter though, if they don’t shape up that defense, they will be beatable.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 6, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

If Cutler starts to struggle early, we will know the truth.

A lot of people seem to think you can just plug in a proven QB and all of a sudden be competitive but, a lot more pieces have to be in place before that can really work. Fortunately for Chicago, they have an excellent defense and special teams that will almost always give them a short field to work with.
They will have problems at the WR position though. Cutler does not have the quality targets he had when he was in Denver nor is the O-line as good as he is used to. i predict Cutler will struggle in Chicago, at least for the first year.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 6, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Unless the Bears trade for Marshall =)

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 6, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

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