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Two Days to Kansas City Chiefs Training Camp

(2008) The Chiefs received their cleats on the first day of practice (via www.uwrf.edu)

(2008) The Chiefs received their cleats on the first day of practice (via www.uwrf.edu)

So, who's lying?

Pro Football Talk is tallying the Anti-Vick List and so far more than half the league is on it, including previously perceived likely landing spots San Francisco, Oakland, St. Louis and Jacksonville.  One of the teams that has said no is likely not telling the truth.  Vick's agent Joel Segal told ESPN's John Clayton the phones were ringing.  

Not only did a Chiefs spokesperson give no interest in Vick back in May, Scott Pioli again said no while making the rounds on TWO radio stations yesterday morning.

That's right, Mr. Pioli is getting out and about in the media.  Notables coming out of the interview include Pioli indicating he and Tyson Jackson's agent, Eugene Parker, are still talking and everyone in the organization is hoping and counting on Jackson to be there.

Star-divide

Chiefs boot Barth

While doing my rounds of obsessively checking Chiefs news, I came across the Chiefs two-sentence release on the team waiving Connor Barth.  Whatever you may think of incumbent Barth and newcomer Ryan Succop, it's hard to like this move.

Creating competition and putting kickers under pressure during training camp is a great exercise.  Remember the last rookie kicker who went into training camp unrivaled?  Hint: He's 10/10 in the CFL now.

I just don't understand making this move now.  Yes, the Chiefs were in the position of having to cut two players if they wanted to sign all the draft picks.  But is a fifth safety more important than a kicker, who is many times your leading scorer?  I know the difference between top tier and bottom tier kickers isn't much but this competition should have lingered on into training camp.

Just my two cents.  Definitely check out this thread on Barth's departure.  Lots of great discussion from both sides.  Reminds me why I love this place so much.

Is he really gone?

Brett Favre told Vikings head coach Brad Childress he will stay retired.  I think Bob Gretz summed up my feelings on this right here:

At least for now; I put the over-under at August 1; that’s when it will become public that Favre is having second thoughts about this decision. We have not heard the last of Favre. He won’t go quietly and more importantly the media types won’t let him go without a few more shouts and reports. I think ESPN may have to lay off about a dozen people if they don’t have the Favre story to cover anymore.

Fool me once...

Pioli lightening up with the media

A Monday interview on ESPN radio, Tuesday morning interview with 610 Sports, late Tuesday morning interview with 810 WHB, and a Wednesday morning appearance on 101.1 The Fox.  How did Pioli and Co. go from super secretive to opening up like a 14 year old girl on the radio with Hannah Montana? Okay, maybe it wasn't that extreme.

But we did see Pioli talking to the media more and more the past few days.  Just to squash something real quick....I saw a few people say this is a good sign as far as getting Tyson Jackson signed because Pioli wouldn't be spending time doing media stuff if he still had work to do.  

Sorry. Not buying it.  Those interviews took up less than an hour of his time.  The Jackson contract talks are still ongoing whether Pioli's doing an interview or not.

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Thank you Gretz

I hate to keep harping on Favreapalooza, but its nice for someone to acknowledge that the media is huge reason for everyone being Favre’d out.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jul 29, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah that new shoe smell

I’m tempted to suggest Joel Segal is lying. His phone is silent and he is trying to drum up interest by suggesting other teams are already calling and if you don’t call soon you’ll miss the boat. He’s just doing his job.

On the other hand most sensible GMs know signing Vick would be a pr disaster. Note how I said “sensible GMs”.

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!

by sir eccles on Jul 29, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am worried about the Jackson signing

He has QB’s signed before and after him and a QB signed in the 3rd spot last year, so you know his agent is going to try and break the bank.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If he tries to break the bank

The Don will break his knee caps.

D-Bowe, Mark Bradley, Bobby Engram and Turtle. Four Chiefs WRers. 4 Pro Bowlers.

by Patrick Allen on Jul 29, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well to get the league minimum

Maybe we need to sign him to a 5 year, $100 Million salary.

Now I’m done.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you about Pioli interviewing and the Jackson contract.

What people seem to be forgetting is that Denny Thum is likely handling the contract talks, not Scott.

Herm Edwards: "There's FOUR quarters in football?!"

by IISaiNtII on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Scott's right in there

With Thum. I don’t see Scott handing it off with the #3 overall.

by Joel Thorman on Jul 29, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know exactly how they do it.

I’m sure they’re both involved, however, I don’t think handing it off is the right phrase, since money issues are on Thum’s side of the house.

Herm Edwards: "There's FOUR quarters in football?!"

by IISaiNtII on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think player contracts

Would be more Scott’s responsibilty than Thum’s. Scott is suppose to be handling the football side of things, while Thum handles how to make money for the Chiefs organization; ticket prices, pr, merchandising, etc. I don’t see player contracts as one of his main responsibilities.

by Scaryclouds on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I'm fairly certain that it's a coordinated effort

Pioli will have heavy input because he’s in charge of the football side of things, but yes, Thum is one of the league’s foremost salary cap experts and he is an amazing negotiator. Over the years he’s actually consulted several other teams with regards to their cap situations. Between Scott and Denny, we have one hell of a team driving this. I think Jackson’s agent is the more likely bottle-neck here with the Crabtree negotiations taking precedence. I think the public interviews that Pioli has been doing is largely for the benefit of Jackson’s agent.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jul 29, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thum actually

has been doing the brunt of the contract work for quite some time now. I’m sure they have a figure in mind already, and are having to wait for Jackson’s agent.

Herm Edwards: "There's FOUR quarters in football?!"

by IISaiNtII on Jul 29, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

The curious thing is that now with Pioli in the mix as opposed to CP, the lengths of most of these contracts seem to be shorter. More three year deals and such. It makes me wonder if that might not be Pioli’s influence. Then again, it might be that Peterson is gone and Thum is acting more as his own man. Either way, I do prefer the current direction that these negotiations are taking.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jul 29, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Mortensen's Office:

Assistant: “OMG Chrisssss, I jussst ssaw on ESSSPN that Farve isss sstaying retired!”

Morty: “What? How am I not aware of this?….. I uh… er…. gotta scramble and make myself sound interesting…… what to do, what to do. Hey! What’s Dan Snyder up to?”

Assistant: “Mr. Sssnyder isss on vacation in Lass Vegasss.”

Morty: “Las Vegas huh? Hmmmmmm…. I got it!”

That night on Sportscenter. BREAKING NEWS

Van Pelt: “Well Mort what can you tell us about Dan Snyder and the Redskins?”

Morty: “Scott sources close to the organization tell me that Dan Snyder was in Las Vegas today to discuss the possibility of relocating the franchise to Las Vegas, signing Mike Vick and J.P. Loseman and changing the name of the team to the Rockettes. I’m told by my very best sources that this is a done deal.”

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Jul 29, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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