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Will Shields on the Chiefs New Management, Brian Waters and Tony Gonzalez

(2004) The starting offensive line for Kansas City, from left, Will Shields, John Welbourn, Brian Waters Willie Roaf and Casey Wiegmann. Tim Umphrey/Icon, for The New York Times

Former Kansas City Chiefs offensive lineman Will Shields was on The Border Patrol a few days ago and I've taken some notes on the interview.

Will talks about rookies, veteran acquisitions, Michael Vick and more after the jump.

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This team was snowballing in the middle of last season. We knew there would be changes. With Scott Pioli and Haley on board, what would you say about all they've done this off season?

I think they have had a pretty good off season. They changed the philosophy. It's a combination of old and young. They had to go out and get some veteran players to show the younger guys how to do things. It's difficult to go all young, all the way and become a Super Bowl team.

My old offensive line coach used to tell me, "Rookies get you fired." Like with coach Shanahan in Denver, these guys can get you fired. You have to go with the veterans to keep you steady and solid and then bring some younger guys along with you.

To build on that point, one question that seems to come up is that the guys they brought in are veterans towards the end of their career.  You always wonder with guys like that if they can stay on the field and if they are off the field, how can they be leaders?

I think that goes back to the types of guys you're bringing in. You bring in those quality guys that worked in day in and day out. Guys that don't anticipate missing games. Guys that have started for years and years and years. He [Pioli] goes by the character of the person, put that together as far as the team.You get leadership and pull it together and say, "You young guys have to follow."

What about the three veterans specfiically: Mike Vrabel, Zach Thomas, Mike Brown?

What's really cool is that I know all three of them pretty well. Mike Brown being a Nebraska alumni; and then actually having Vrabel and Zach. Me and Zach are pretty close at times. At one time we had the same agent. You know these guys are guys that are going to give you everything they have in the lockeroom and on the football field.

To know the defense that they know they want to run, it's not going to be too exciting. It's going to be grind it out and make them beat you with their talent. Make them drive down the field, not get the long ball. It's a methodical thought process to defense, basically building up matchups to win. It's important to have seen a lot of the tricks of the trade. They brought in those guys at certain positions so that the younger guys can play their positions.

They say nobody is really showing interest in Michael Vick. Should a team like the Chiefs be interested?

I don't know if he fits the mold of what the quarterback situation would be here in Kansas City. He's not a drop back quaterback. If you're looking for a great change up, then he'd be perfect for it.

I don't think he fits in the system in Kansas City. I don't think a lot of the teams know what he's like mentally yet, after going through all of that. But really, the mentality of a player is the same. He can fit in anywhere he can go. He went through the judgement. 

I think he would be awesome in a Kordell Stewart like role.

I think he could play both. If something happened to your starter, then you have guy who has been a starter before. It depends on where he is mentally. Through trial and tribulations, there are some positive things to say.

A big story in the off season was Brian Waters and his disagreements with Scott Pioli and Todd Haley. Are you surprised that Brian Waters butted heads with the front office?

No, I'm not really surprised. Brian is one of those guys, when he has a feeling about something strong, he doesn't wait to voice his opinion. What makes it difficult, is when you have a new coaching statff that comes in, they have to set their precedents too. To butt heads with a veteran players, I think that's a given in the NFL. There's always one or two people who don't liek the new regime or don't like comments that were said.

But situations happen. Things go. Brian is a pro. He's one of those guys thats going to come in and do his job - maybe not quietly - but to the best of his ability.

Did the Chiefs handle the situation properly?

I mean if you really think about it it hasn't been too bad of an issue. It hasn't been something blaring in thepaper everyday. It's not a situation that brought anyone else into the fold. I think they've handled it very well.

Was trading Tony Gonzalez a good trade for the Chiefs?

I think so. I think it gives the best of both worlds. Gives Tony the chance t go out for a team that was in the playoffs last year. Gives him the chance to say "Am I the piece that can get them to the next level?" He asked for it, he wanted it and it happened. He was a guy that contributed to the team for a long time. But if he's ready to move on and not be a part of what we're doing, then it might be the best things for both. 

Matt Cassel was brought over for that second round choice. They sign him to the long-term extension. Only one season under his belt. Do you think that it was a good move?

Business is business. We can lock a guy fo ra long term deal. Instead of paying 15 off the get go, spread th emoney out. For us as a team, that's what they're saying, is that they'll live and die with him. That's how the NFL goes. You get a guy and put your name on the line. I think it's a good vote of confidence. Like anything else, it's always going to be a gamble. You need to put the supporting pieces around him.

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do you think shields would be a good coach?
But if he’s ready to move on and not be a part of what we’re doing, then it might be the best things for both.

he’s still referring to the chiefs as we and i know he still lives in kc. what if he came back to coach o-line? i guess he’d still be coaching guys he played with so maybe he’s not far removed enough yet. but maybe someday?

by airfly on Jul 25, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I noticed that too...

This guy bleeds KC red and is proud of it. He kept referring to the chiefs as “we” and shows great pride. We need to get him signed up here.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Jul 25, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jul 25, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always liked Will Shields

He was always a team first guy, sounds like he still thinks of himself as a Chief.

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jul 25, 2009 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree

He is one of the very best.

by TheQ on Jul 25, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consistent

Work ethic and attitude. I don’t remember a lot of grumbling and complaining in his day. He’d be a great Offensive Line coach.

by Supersport on Jul 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I want to take a wait and see approach with Muir

Quite possibly Shields could come in as an assistant somewhere in the organization, quite possibly with Ray Farmer and his group, first.

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jul 25, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Lets see what Hermann Munster can make out of the line this year.
Still we need to draft a OG at least next year.

August 14th Baby! Can't wait! 3 Fridays away!
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Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or at least add one or two players.

Waters and Goff are nearing the end of their careers. And, depending on what happens in training camp, we might see a FA before season even starts in ’09.

I know Pioli and co. have done lots of homework to get the 80 guys into training camp, but this is their first year with these players, and even after years with the same club, Pioli treats each offseason as a brand-new team and has jettisoned big-name players nobody expected him to. They’re still deeply into talent evaluations, and info from training camp is probably going to be a bigger factor with this team in transition than is the norm.

by hmills110 on Jul 25, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Muir is one of the best O-line coaches in the league...

That guy has coached some of the best lines since he has been in the business.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 26, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Waters is a pro. There wasn't a lot of back-and-forth in the media.

Despite the poor first impression, it sounds like both sides are going to handle their end of things in a professional manner, and meet in the middle.

by hmills110 on Jul 25, 2009 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Waters is a Pro. The Organization didn't play things out in the press.

I think it’ll work out, fine.

Dunno about Shields as a coach. Let him to his “training” stints and earn his way into the coaching ranks.

As for Muir, I think he’ll be FINE. He’s worked with less, and been very successful as OL coach, with mixed grades as OC. He can prob’ly handle the OC duties if asked to do so. What’ll be important THIS year is how the staff clicks together. Don’t want to see any in-fighting.

by hmills110 on Jul 25, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

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