ya'll just ain't knowing

by kcskip on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT Comment 35 comments

I can't take it anymore. So many comments from people without a clue.....and it seems the more clout you have as a writer the less you know (KB,JW,AT...If you see your initials here I'm talking about YOU Kent Jason & Adam. AT, please kill the Vlog you scare me. Can't you just write your junk down so we don't have to...).

Cease ye.... all of this talking a bunch on no-brain nonsense like you really have a clue. Here's the real deal....KC will be 6 and 10 and within a touchdown in 7 others games. 1.The whole AFC west including the overated chargers will struggle against the NFC west.
2.The AFC west will still be competive and split in head to head matchups with San Diego being the only team to win both games head to head (they'll beat Denver twice) against a division opponent.
3.If you watched the games last year the chiefs did not lack effort:
3a.Our defense always looked out of place and there seemed to be huge spaces unattended as if the players were asked to "play cautious and then rush and make a play". The "Bend but don't break" Cover 2's basic scheme requires a very active and aggressive front 7 to work. Our Safety (Pollard) was coming up to help fill those spots which created holes in our back end. He was chasing his tale trying to do it all because our cautious front seven behavior left many wholes to fill. I blame the coaching, the scheme and injuries on that. We have plenty of talent and solid playmakers on defense....all young and hungry....they just need good coaching. Gunther's defenses have never been great at making halftime ajustments and that's where our season went down the tubes the last 2 years. I am excited about what our defense will be this year. We have enough leadership, youth and TALENT to be the best defense in our division. I predict the first 4 games will mature the defense and give them the confidence (yes we will play Philly and NY tough in the 3rd and 4th games)to keep us in all of the remaining games.
3B. Our Offense is lacking one element and that is a solid 2nd WR. The offensive line just needed better coaching, the size and athletism are there; the direction and technique are not. We have one of the best
O-line coaches in the business now and his assistant is a great commuicator so there will be massive improvement here. If you look around the league and at history, great change has occured for some teams almost overnight on the O-line. Remember the pathetic Chargers (feels so good to say those words) several years back. The year before their impressive turn around the O-line was a big weakness and the reason they were not going to finish higher than last in the division. Something happened that offseason and that big weakness became a huge strength. We can do that too. We Do Have the talent to TURN IT AROUND....but I have to say this - it will scare me to see D.Mac starting anywhere on that line unless some miracle has happened and he forgets how bad he is and has a renaissance of sorts (hope that "r" word isn't too much for the pigskin heads to handle). The QB situation is good. I truly believe we have 3 starters - yes i said it 3 starters on the team. Brodie can play. In fact I would bet that if you could ask Chan Gailey who has the most Quarteback gifts for the position he would say Brodie. I beleive he would be carving up defenses like a Drew "Cool" Breeze or Kenny Stabler by now if he had a decent O-line and a running game. Unfortunately the Chiefs fans may one day find out just how good he is when they have to play against him. We have the RB's to do well on offense...I really believe JC (J.Charles is a monster)and I hope we keep Javarris Williams around....he reminds me of Priest Holmes(funny how it's hard to let go of the ones we love). The recievers - well theres D. Bowe and ....? D. Bowe is solid and under appreciated (yeah that's right, we need to show this baller some love so we don't run him out of town)when you think about it he's done an excellent job with NO HELP. TG doesn't count as much as most fans think when it comes to rolling coverages to contain a recieving threat. They operate in different domains and it's easier to bracket the tightend with LB's when the O-line can't block and the running game is nil leaving our lone WR threat doubled covered on passing downs and well covered all other tmes. Mark Bradley just breaks your heart don't he?. Loads of talent and speed...prototipical for the position...but he hasn't gotten it done. Shows flashes....agh! Come on Mark baby bro I'm on yo side...can we kick it for real? If we don't make a big Free Agent WR aquisition that tells me the coaches have finally gotten Mark B. on track and I'm cool with that. The one area I have plenty of confidence in Haley is in his ability to access and mold WR talent.
4.Our coaching staff is good and I think it will soon be regarded as one of the best in the league. With the talent we have, I see a very good and competitive team in 2009.
On the way out let me throw this at you: Pollard would have been a great LB. Demarrio Williams can really play. Tank and Dorsey are going to establish themselves as a solid DT tandem no matter what we call our defensive scheme they will be on the field and playing well. They are the key to our defensive turnaround. O-line will improve the offense.

JCtothehouse

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Say What?

No really say what? I stopped reading after a few lines realizing there were no paragraphs or clear organization. Not to be picking on ya but, it could use some paragraphs and such.

Let LJ work with Todd Haley, watch him transform, he will be good again if he can get some holes made and blocking from the OL he will run

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Jul 1, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That's not a shot at you kcskip

We just don’t want people to not read the entire posts over something like paragraphs. It makes it hard to read :)

Thanks for the post.

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Jul 1, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alright you guys are nitpicking...

You know he meant the NFC East.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I like the optimism

thanks

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Jul 1, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I did to

But heckle the other teams not your readers. Good thoughts

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 1, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Uhmmm..

I’m not trying to be a jerk, but really this post made me cringe. I have alot to say about this. Just like everyone else said..you really should learn the usage of paragraphs. You should also learn how to “number” things correctly. 3, 3a and 3b? And all 3 of those had nothing to do with each other. Defense did not lack effort, defense looked out of place and pollard had to help alot, and the offense is lacking a #2 receiver. None of those have anything to do with each other. (maybe the 1st two, but not imo) Not to pick on you..but..you really should learn how to write better..

Calling people out, saying they dont have a clue and all that junk is 100% BS. YOU dont have a clue, THEY dont have a clue, I dont have a clue, NOBODY has a clue what is going to happen in the coming season. For you to say we WILL go 6-10 is not a fact. Thats your prediction, your opinion, your thoughts. But to go as far as saying thats what WILL happen, its ridiculous. THEN you go on to say we WILL lose 7 games by 1 TD..WTF?! I’m sorry but that is even more ridiculous to me than saying we’ll go undefeated and win the superbowl.

Now for your numbered items..I have a response for most of them.

1 – The “overrated” chargers will struggle against the “nfc west”. Welll…as someone else pointed out..its actually the NFC east. And where do you get Overrated? Philip Rivers was a Top 5 QB last year, and I dont care what anyone says about Tomlinson. He has not fallen off the radar enough to the point that I’m going to ignore him in the gameplan. The defense has a new rookie LB whos supposed to be alright, and the return of Merriman. Now im not saying the chargers will be great, good, okay, or bad. I’m saying we cant underestimate them. Id rather overestimate them and play them like its life or death. We should play that way everygame.

2. You are REALLY starting to reach predicting what team will win head to head and what team it will be against. I think SD, KC, AND DEN all have a shot at beating the Raiders twice. Thats a THOUGHT. Again, whats up with the guarantees?

3. Agreed. We did not lack effort. The only thing I agree with so far.

3a. I also agree with you here. Our Safties led the team in tackles because they had to clean up after the front 7’s mistakes. We could become a great defense, but in disagreement, I dont know that our defense will become the best D in the division this year. Its possible, but not likely.

3b. How do we know we need a Solid 2nd WR? Bradley could become that guy. We dont know yet. I was impressed with Bradley last year in his limited production. He was the 3rd option after 2 1,000 yard receivers on a team that didnt put up great passing numbers.

Our O-Line..I’m not going to touch that subject. Niswanger caught alot of grief but noone was willing to point at our RG situation to say it caused Niswanger to look bad. McIntosh was terrible. our RG was terrible. I wouldnt mind seeing Niswanger in between 2 good Guards. But in agreement..I am very worried about McIntosh if he playes.

This post got MUCH longer than I anticipated so I’m going to wrap up the rest of this.

Charles is good..but I’m not saying anymore until he shows me more. He had limited playing time, but also had very limited production during that time. I dont blame him though. A rookie behind a weak O-line. Hes dangerous though. Anybody with speed and hands like that out of the backfield is a threat. I agree that we have 3 QB’s but we cant forget the Brodie is still Injury Prone. So if somehow Cassel AND Thig get hurt..we better start lookin at FA cuz it wont be long until we move onto QB #4. I am glad to see that you havent completely lost faith in Bradley. I think he can really help. Especially with Engram there to help him and Bowe.

Pollard is going to be a great safety when he doesnt have to worry about creeping up to help out the front 7. Page managed 4 picks on a defense that couldnt pressure the QB..I look at him as our Ball Hawk.

Overall…good post. Honestly. Poorly written as far as format, some subject matter that I didn’t care for, but otherwise, not a bad post. Just dont be so sure of your predictions. This is the NFL and anything can happen.

by Petey14 on Jul 1, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

And ^ that is how you critique a post without attacking the member (it was close at times).

Not a UC level critique, but good.

Even if you hate someone’s post, debate the post and not the person.

I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.

by DThomasReigns on Jul 1, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uhh..

The first 2 paragraphs is about the person. The rest of it IS debating the post.

by Petey14 on Jul 2, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Petey, I was complimenting you.

I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.

by DThomasReigns on Jul 3, 2009 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

For Petey's sake

+1 and some

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 1, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just to clarify

Just like everyone else said..you really should learn the usage of paragraphs.

It is fine to write a post as a stream of conciousness, but before you actually publish it, go back through it and separate things with a space between….which makes it a paragraph. That way we can all see your thoughts plainly without having to work at it. This is a relaxation thing…not a struggle to read it thing.

I agree with a lot of what you said, and I very much agree with almost everything that Petey said. And a very good job of critique.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HEY ............

whats a paragraph :P

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 1, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well,

I didn’t struggle to read “This is a relaxation thing…not a struggle to read it thing.” I guess I didn’t realize that it is so much harder to read a sentence with “..” instead of “,”. My bad.

Btw…I like how you quote me for using “..” as if nobody else in AP ever does the same thing (including the writer of this post). This is the internet world where some people type lYk dIS eRrTyMe deY pOsT (like this everytime they post incase you cant read that clearly), and you are nitpicking about a “..”. This isnt english class.

Im not trying to be disrespectful but seriously, thats a pretty small thing to pick at.

by Petey14 on Jul 2, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ummm

My comments were directed at the post…not your comments by the way.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Jul 2, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Petey

I think Z was refering to the post, not your comment.
The reply and all that gets messed up some.
DTR was mostly appreciative and I was saying good job.
Even though I like the bottom and forgot the top because it was so good a Butt end :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 2, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This was my comment to your comments

and I very much agree with almost everything that Petey said. And a very good job of critique.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Jul 2, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry pete, but

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jul 3, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Much Appreciated..anybody else?

by Petey14 on Jul 3, 2009 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just teasing man.

I’ve done the same thing 200 times. Find a better fail picture and save it for me the next time i do it =]

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jul 3, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man my bad

Now I feel like an @$$hole..which I probably should. Im guilty of the “..” too so I thought you were talking to me. Like I said..I wasnt trying to be disrespectful, i just thought you were nitpicking at me and it was a bit offending but I misunderstood your post so I apologize.

Steve_Chiefs, I know you and DTR were saying good things..i just misunderstood what Zodeman was saying. Basically I thought he was talking to me and I couldnt believe it after the way the original post is as far as format and all that. I guess thats what I get. So whatever you wanna say now, I probably deserve.

At the end of the day, all of us just want to see the chiefs succeed. Thats all that really matters.

by Petey14 on Jul 3, 2009 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

No problem man…I probably could have been a little more clear about where it was directed.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.

by Zodeman on Jul 3, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

?

I think he was talking about the chargers of old not last year?We did lack effort are you guys crazy they walked everywhere minus a few player.We do need a solid WR at no.2 Bradley is not that good he is ok but It could be alot better.Charles had some decent stats last year and can CATCH the ball and BLOCK that’s two things Larry can’t say.So even though it’s not a masterpiece has some good info thanks for the post!

THAT'S GOOD FOR A KANSAS CITY CHIEFS "FIRST DOWN"

by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

One ............

Mistake Petey,……….. J.Charles had the best yards per carry other than Bones. IMO J.Charles could be our new M.Allen with the speed to get around the end. Yes i know people dont think he can hold up, but i for one think if givin the chance, he would be the best back on the team.

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 1, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So excuse my lack of gramatical afluence.

Point well taken. I was clowning somewhat and I had to rush this thing done on my break at work. I understand and agree with your points on clearity, breifity, and format. I don’t however agree that my post should not include predictions or challenge the writers that like to state their opnions as fact and have believe they have anymore of a clue than we fans do. Every real fan has an opinion that they strongly believe in. Having this fan forum allows us to get off our chest….just for the funof it. Yes ANYTHING can happen and that’s what makes this whole thing fun.
Maybe you guys are taking the wrong things a little too serious.

I feel I have a better than the average fan (and writter’s) knowlege of the game so hopefully somebody learned something or maybe had a new thought or opinion come to mind.

Regarding the comments on the chargers….I’m sticking by my claims but as a true fan and former athelete I have great respect for Ladanien Thomlinson (I love the way he plays the game and he is not done by any means) and Phillip Rivers and A couple of others on the team. Every team has several “stars” but there is more to winning than having talent.
JCtothehouse

by kcskip on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Keep the opinions coming

And the grammar’s no big thing…just a clarity thing.

I agree with most points you made. Regarding Mark Bradley, while I do think the potential is there, that doesn’t really matter if he can’t stay healthy. If he can stay healthy, then he can be a potential #2 but he hasn’t done it so far in his career so I’m not putting much stock into him doing it now.

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Jul 1, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

I was highlighting the appropriate way for members to disagree via Petey’s comment as an example. I was not advocating either viewpoint.

And welcome to AP, Skip!

I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.

by DThomasReigns on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we agree

Just no need to rush a post. Take your time. Back it all up before you have to back it all up.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 1, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good imput keep them coming

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HEY

KCskip did you look Gramatical Afluence up in the dictionary……………….come on now you can tell me :P

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 2, 2009 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Paragraphing is awesome!

by woodman212 on Jul 2, 2009 12:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Damnit Man

Tell us how you relly feel.

by 63gump on Jul 2, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

For Petey's sake

Lil Petey you got way too much love for my tatse.

I thought this was a “FANpost” not a "Man"post.

Main topic – KC Chiefs and professional football

Every point I make in the Original post is valid…I know the Chiefs….been a die hard true fan since 1968. Spent half my life in KC. I go to the chiefs in San Diego every year (Oh, chiefs fans you’d be proud – there is more red than blue at the charger stadium when we come to town).

I also know the chargers….been living in San Diego for 25 years and I go to thier camps almost every year (just for laughs). I have played with some of the players that had short stints in the charger camp and several of them I met at the church I attend. The pastor of the church I attend is the chaplin for the chargers. I am well aware of the few talented individuals on that team., but talent alone does not mean victory. The chargers struggle in the area of “team”. We “beat” the chargers “team” in both games last year and I they don’t remember them dominating any opponent the way a superbowl contenter does. They were the sexy pick by the pundits who want a new AFC conversation piece (tired of NE and Indy). They barely won the division by default. LT and his cast of psuedo-stars don’t DESERVE to win a division just because they are talented.

Here’s another Ridiculous Prediction for you – Oakland will have a better record than San Diego.

Lil’ Petey if I had known your initials when I wrote the original post they would be listed right along side of those mentioned.

Na…on second thought that would just be giving you the attention you seek.

I’m guessing you’re cringing……..again

Be up front with us lil ‘Petey …..You ’re a charger fan…playin ’possum on a chiefs site aren’t you?

by kcskip on Jul 3, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Whoa

Its nice to see you learned how to write a paragraph. Congrats!

As for bein a “Charger fan playin ’possum on a chiefs site” I suggest you go back and read my comment. “I’m saying we cant underestimate them. Id rather overestimate them and play them like its life or death. We should play that way everygame.” are my exact words.

I’ve lived in Kansas City my entire life. All I’ve known since I was 3 years old is Chiefs Football, and Bulls basketball. I was here in the 90’s when our D dominated the field yet we couldnt quite get to the big game. When Marty Ball won games but not championships. I was here earlier this decade when we had 1 of the most dominating offenses. When our defense couldnt stop anybody to save our life. I’ve witnessed our team have 1 dominate side to the game and flop in the other aspect. That was Carl Petersons fault. NOW we’re headed in the right direction.

ALL I am saying is that we cant just walk into that game like they’re a bunch of nobodys. Norv Turner may be a horrible coach, but we cant just write them off like that. We’ve won 6 games in 2 years. I dont care if they bring in an allstar team..I’m not going to write off anybody. Thats what I like about Haley. He’s a hardnosed coach whos not going to be buddy buddy all the time..if at all. Seems he has alot of confrontations with his players. Good. Our players need to be focused and theres no better way to keep them focused than to keep the pressure on all the time. Its a winning mentality. Its team chemistry. That is what is going to get us in the playoffs.

Question is, will it happen this season? I dont know. You dont know. Nobody knows. Thats my point.

Needless to say, I’ll be here during the season and we’ll see how your Ridiculous Predictions go. Thats my favorite part of the season. Watching peoples predictions fall apart. They are SO sure of themselves and then..poof. hah.

by Petey14 on Jul 5, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs