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Who's hot and who's not? (Don't call it a comeback DTR, I've been here for year-sz Version.)
As an equal opportunity poster, I felt obligated to give the Offense their due, and make a guesstimate of the Offensive depth chart. For those of you who seem to be horizontally challenged, please set your SBNation to Wide. There was a ton of stuff in this chart, and you will have trouble viewing it all in the narrow format. I have to admit, I had a lot of fun making these charts, and trying to decide upon where guys fit, or how they are performing, by trying to gleam bits and pieces of information from all the wonderful folks here at Arrowhead Pride. Amazingly enough, it seems as if the starters on our Offense are already set. Most of the roster prognostication deals mainly with depth, and the wide receiver group. The wide receiver competiton is probably the best position group battle of the bunch. Check out Connerman's nice take on the state of the WRs. They definitlely have more questions than answers. And as always, Shout Out if you see it any different...
I must start with the Quarterback position for two reasons: it is the most important positon on your football team, and this position has our most prized offseason acquisition in Matt Cassel. I have felt the rumblings of the staunch Thigpen supporters in many a comment on AP, but quite frankly, how can you NOT be excited about Matt? I am not saying that he is a world beater yet, but he is by all current accounts a great leader, hard worker, and a very accurate passer. Bones is great, but there was many a game last year that I looked upon my TV in disgust as a Thigpen pass went sailing high. Tyler is athletic and plays with a ton of heart, but some clipboard seasoning might do him some good. Brokie is still a capable #3 if he can overcome the injury bug. Along with Ingle Martin, this is one of the deepest position groups on the offense.
The tailback position is not the strength it once was, but it is solid and has a few different types of running backs that we can utilize. LJ is apparently "stuck" with us, because we can pay him the most money. But that's ok because we can use him well in our new offense. We will pass to set up the run, and this should bode well for Johnson as he should see some big holes in opposing defenses late in games. Charles will definitely see more work in a Reggie Bush like role this season, and Kolby Smith is an adequate fill-in RB if he can stay healthy. But I think that he will be pushed for his roster spot this season by Javarris Williams. Williams was touted as a dark horse who could surprise at the next level. I would not be surprised to see him win the #3 spot because of his versatility, and the fact that he is one of Pioli's guys. As for Jackie Battle, last year he was slightly on the radar because he did so well in training camp. Well, he is running with the first team again, but what should we take from that? Probably nothing. Savage will likely only earn a roster spot if he can beat out Quinten Lawrence at the returner position.
The fullback spot has had little press so far this season other than the blurb about Mike Cox bowling over some defenders. That is good to hear, because I am not sure that Mike's history with Offensive Coordinator Chan Gailey will be enough to keep his spot on this roster. I think it will, but I found it interesting that the Chiefs traded back up to draft Tight End Jake O'Connell. I think they view him as an H Back type player that is versatile enough to play multiple positions, which is completely in-line with the Pioli philosophy. Williams also has the size to get a look here, which also increases his shot at the 53 since he could play both FB and TB. The Chiefs are not likely to keep more than 5 total RBs so...just saying. This might be one to watch.
The offensive line seems to be set at starter with McIntosh, Goff, Niswanger, Waters, and Albert. But the only acsending player here is Albert. Niswanger is young, but he will be challenged by Ghiaciuc and Wade Smith. I think Wade Smith did a good job filling in last season when Jones was injured, and it says a lot that he is playing with the 1st team at Left Guard while Troubled Waters is MIA. Goff is a welcome addition, but he will not likely be in KC for very long. McIntosh is our starting right tackle for now, unless young guns Richardson and Brown can push him for playing time. You can tell by all the sideways arrows that most of these guys could go either way. I am really hoping that this is the season that we see at least one of our young lineman assert themselves and win a starting spot on this line. Edwin Harrison, Tavaris Washington, Barry Richardson, Brian De La Puenta, Herb Taylor, ....somebody?
The wide receivers will be battling it out for the next 2 1/2 months or so, and I am looking forward to this as much as any other roster battle on the offense. I think we can all say that Bowe's spot as #1 is already assured, and Bradley and Engram should fall in right behind him. But neither one of them is without risk. Bradley's troubles have always been his lack of availibililty on the football field, and Bobby Engram is reaching the magical age of 36, where all receivers get a 6th gear so they can still get open. Uh, sure they do. I will say that Engram is a quality receiver who never let me down in Fantasy Football two years ago. That has to count for something? I would then slot Devard Darling and Jeff Webb as the 4th and 5th receivers on the roster, followed by Copper, Jones, Lawrence, Johnson, and Wright. Somebody also has to be Engram's heir apparent to the slot receiver, so a lot of these guys will get a look there. Best chance to break into the 53 as a WR: Copper or Jones. I think Lawrence makes it as our returner.
Considering that most of the starter spots are already spoken for, I am a little surprised there is so much to discuss in regards to the '09 Chiefs offense and the state of the depth chart. But the real success of this unit, like it or not, is riding on the arm of #7. Make no bones about it.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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I couldn't just stop with the defense
it just didn’t seem right. Man, there is a lot of great story lines on the O.
by TheQ on Jun 9, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
and that final Dig, oh, ah, I mean flourish should get some Hate mail :)
W, Smith and Taylor probably need to get their butts in gear if they want to be in 2010 picture on Chiefs.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 9, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty obvious, huh?
I like Bones, I do. I just think he is a better #2. I want to win a Super Bowl man!
by TheQ on Jun 9, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
seldom is the occasion that I agree with everything on a post
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Jun 9, 2009 4:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Nanz
funny thing is, I almost always agree with your comments as well.
by TheQ on Jun 9, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kiss, Kiss, Kiss
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 9, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way everyone
To view the full table, click Wide view on the upper right or left side of the page, depending on whether or not you clicked through for the full post.
by Chris Thorman on Jun 9, 2009 6:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
to whoever came up with “Ingle the elf.” Every time I read his name I think of that.
Rec’d, by the way.
by JComp11 on Jun 9, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wrecked is the absolute best way to say it.
Makes me feel like I did some damage!
by TheQ on Jun 9, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Update: Darling's been in Bradley's spot, recently.
Doesn’t mean much at this stage, but he’s showing well in practices, right now.
by hmills110 on Jun 9, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Rec whore!
j/k :)
Well done, Q, well done. rec’d
I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.
by DThomasReigns on Jun 9, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is not the first time I have been called that
But it is the first time it felt like a compliment! :)
by TheQ on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Battle runnin' with the #1s is a sign of things to come.
Wonder what his fightin’ weight will come out to be, and how many touches he’ll get. He has the bulk to play FB, and enough speed to play RB. Reminds me of T-Rich.
by hmills110 on Jun 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I kept thinking last year that they will give Battle a chance to be our
1st and 2nd down battering ram, especially when LJ was out, but he never got a shot. I know there was some talk last season of trying him at FB, but I think the knock on him was that he could not block anybody. Purely a runner. Part of me thinks he was an insurance policy in case LJ departed KC. This year I think that guy is Javarris. But when you do hear about Battle, he sounds like he does pretty well? Who knows?
by TheQ on Jun 9, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Battle will be one of the guys
fighting for that one spot devoted to special teams that Haley mentioned (last week I think)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 10, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be
It does seem like he has been kind of a project for the Chiefs. If he doesn’t stick on the 53 this year, I think he is gone. But I am kinda hoping he makes it solely because I like the idea of having a big back that we can pound the ball and control the clock some at the end of the game.
by TheQ on Jun 10, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone said his issue was protections.
Too bad. He looked like a great combo of size, speed, hands, and quickness. Exactly the kind of all-around RB I like to see, except the bastiche apparently doesn’t block worth a damn.
by hmills110 on Jun 10, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like what you have to say regarding Battle vs T-Rich.
If Battle could be utilized Like Richardson was, we may be able to get our ground game back to it’s glory days. I don’t know if a lot of people realize how much impact T-Rich had on the Chiefs offense when he was here.
Roaf and Shields always got credit for what they did but, I remember the year Richardson got hurt. Our offense SUCKED and Coach Vermiel said he had to cut the offensive playbook in half w/o Richardson to help lead block for Priest. The Chiefs have not been the same since T-Rich hasn’t been here.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 10, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be blasphemy
but I actually liked Kimble Anders better than T-Rich
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 11, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No question.
Anders was a great receiving back. I don’t think he was as convincing of a pure runner. But maybe it was they way they were used. Memory dims. I was always frustrated by the Martyball version of the West Coast. Sure, it’s a credit to the team when you win so many close ones in the 4th quarter, but why not just go ahead and put up as many points as you can all day long? That was something I really liked about Vermeil. He wasn’t just going to sit on a lead and wait for you to score before trying to actually get a TD.
by hmills110 on Jun 11, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLASPHEMY!!
I’ll call that one now! T-Rich was the heart and soul behind any of our RB’s through the years. Ask any of them, without T-Rich, they weren’t as good. Yes, Roaf and Shields paved the way, but T-Rich always picked up his blocks, sometimes multiple blocks. Besides on the field, he was a helluva guy off as well. I miss the shit outta that dude. He was definitely the goods…
KCCHIEFSFAN72
by kcchiefsfan72 on Jun 11, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, I can't see the flankers...
They are partially covered by the banner.
by Dagda on Jun 11, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Up by the welcome guide
you can set your screen to view this in wide mode.
by TheQ on Jun 11, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jed Collins at FB, not Javarris Williams
I know of no reason to believe Williams is getting snaps at FB. To my knowledge, Collins is there exclusively.
by Dagda on Jun 11, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can add Collins to the FB chart
But I put Williams down here as pure speculation. Thought he might have a shot to make the roster because of his versatility.
by TheQ on Jun 11, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Williams is a RB, not FB.
He’ll make the roster for special teams and as a backup runner.
I hope he makes some waves in training camp
by stagdsp on Jun 11, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do too Stags
Even if LJ does well this season, he is not got much left in the tank, two years tops I think. So we really need an up and coming RB in the pipe. LW could be the guy?
by TheQ on Jun 14, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually calling out Roc27.
Where is that guy anyway?
by TheQ on Jun 11, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about TE's?
Per coach Haley’s comments at his press conf. it seems like all the TE’s are in the running for starting position or good chance to make the team. How many will they keep?
by kw900 on Jun 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2 - I imagine
Maybe a 3rd on practice squad or special team Stud.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 17, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think at least 3
We were so spoiled by TG, that we often forget how important it is to have a good blocking TE. I think Cottam and Curtis are on the team, with the 3rd spot a toss up between Ryan and O’Connell.
by TheQ on Jun 19, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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