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Does Brian Waters Acting as his own Agent Represent a Liability?

Brian Waters, acting as his own agent, negotiated a six year, $26.5 million deal in 2006.  He had base salaries due of $3.6 million in 2009, $2.9 million in 2010 and $3.9 million in 2011.

"I know a lot of people want to fall in love with the idea of wanting to be faithful to the team until you die because there’s a lot of that hometown feeling. This is a business, and as soon as they think you don’t fit, you are gone. So you have to make sure you maintain your business angle to it."  -Brian Waters, June 5th, 2009

The NFL is a business alright.  As Kansas City Chiefs fans we have received a shrewd reminder of that reality in recent months.  The excitement of receiving Mike Vrabel as a "throw in" to the Matt Cassel trade wore off quickly when his initial press conference with Kansas City area reporters wasn't exactly a session that pumped us up as fans.

What's in it for you to come to Kansas City?  A change of scenery, a different place to work, a different place to live.

Did you want out of New England?  I wouldn’t say that is necessarily true, but the situation is what it is.

Though Vrabel later said he's committed to the Chiefs and excited about playing for them, I wondered how sincere he was.  Eleven wins to two wins isn't the easiest situation for a player but I'm a fan.  I want all players to love this team as much as I do.  I want the players to be obsessed with Kansas City, Arrowhead stadium and the rich tradition of football around these parts as much as I do.

In the back of my mind I understand the reality that this is a job for most NFL players, but I thought we had a guy like that in Brian Waters.  Unfortunately, reality reared it's ugly head again.  It's a business, I reminded myself.

For Waters, that reminder is front and center.  Acting as his own agent, Waters created this "saga" as he calls it and now he's going to have to get himself out of it.

By all indications his feelings have been hurt, which is understandable.  That happens in all walks of business.  But when personal feelings invade your business dealings, it's usually not a good result.

The "right way" to take care of the incident that reportedly occurred between him and Todd Haley and Scott Pioli back in February would have been to speak with his agent, who would have A) approached the team about it in the appropriate setting (i.e. not days before the onset of free agency) or B) leaked the information to the press in a way that wouldn't have harmed his reputation (like it already has).

But Waters is his own agent.  He can't help but bring his personal feelings to the table when he speaks with Chiefs management, for better or for worse.  And for the Chiefs front office, how can they distinguish between Brian Waters the player and Brian Waters the agent?

They can't.  And that's a problem.

Daunte Culpepper infamously made the rounds last season acting as his own agent while he looked for work.  He turned down a $1 million offer from the Green Bay Packers to back up Aaron Rodgers against the advice of a lot of folks in the media.  He eventually got his gig with the Detroit Lions but there was a lot of criticism for the way he was handling his business considering he doesn't have the experience or expertise NFLPA certified agents do.

Being an NFL agent is a fraternity of sorts.  If a player like Culpepper or Waters go against the grain and represents themselves, therefore limiting the available pool of money to agents, there's going to be some backlash.  Agents are very, very powerful in this business and if you wrong one of them, let alone all of them, you could be in for some trouble.

At this point, the damage has been done with Waters.  He's prideful and can't walk into Scott Pioli's office and resolve the "business aspect" of this issue.  It's personal for him and business for the front office meaning we're not going to see an easy resolution to the matter.

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great article

This is only going to give more players bad blood with the nfl there is no ref when you are your own agent usually the agent takes care of it hes out to do the best thing for you cuz he gets payed by doing his job . Players being there own agent is scary because it will soon be strike time once they run into a problem or its gets to personal and they dont want to perform on the field after a big mess. But i can see this happening more in the future players being there own agent. And I dont see it as a good thing.

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Jun 6, 2009 8:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Good morning to you

Rainy day here in KC. Just got back from a race.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 6, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Theres one thing I find ironic about professional sports, when the team feels like you don’t have it anymore, they make the decision to release, cut, or trade you(Vrabel,Ellis,Edge)!! But when the player asks to be released or traded, he is considered disgruntled or will be a locker room distraction(Waters,Lj,Gonzo)!!

Funny how that works!!

by T MO 5 on Jun 6, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not that funny

Players negotiate and agree to the terms of contracts with their employers.

If they didn’t want to be traded, then they should put that in their contract or find another team. This is an issue with the player and their employer, if the player doesn’t like the deal then why did he sign it?

by Joel Thorman on Jun 6, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

A little off topic

First off great article on the business side of football and a fans perspective of it. Second for anyone who feels we simply cannot live without Brian Waters take a look at the fanshot photo of him, fat and out of shape and seemingly looking totally uninterested, if he wants out good riddance I say. You either want to be a chief or you don’t and we as fans want someone who is passionate about being a chief and honoring all of the tradition the organisation has developed. All we ask is that you care about our team, not much to ask, for signing your paycheck because without us you might just be sacking groceries with Mcgraw lol

by rockymtnchief on Jun 6, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Better Off Without BW???

If you think we would be better off without Brian Waters you have to be looking at a different team than the one I am looking at. Without Water our OL goes from at least adaquate to the biggest question mark on the team. The guy is a solid all pro guard, solid citizen, and leader on a team looking for leadership. Personelly I hope Waters stays with the teams and continues his role as a leader, which would make the whole team better. When the whisle blows he will be in shape and ready to do his job just as he has over the years.

Jerome

by easyjb on Jun 6, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last time I checked, Waters wants to be part of the team, which is why he went in to the offices back in Feb., also, off season is what it is “OFF”! They don’t have to be in tip-top shape, if that were the case, there would be no need for OTA’s & training camp!!

And for the last time, I’m sick of everyone acting like Waters wanted or wants out of KC, it was a rumor to begin with, a bad one at that. Whitlock hasn’t reported on it since, Waters nor Haley has commented on it since, yet, folks have it embedded in their minds that he wants out!!

by T MO 5 on Jun 6, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Waters was Whitlock's source

And now Adam Teicher and Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star are reporting on it.

Show me where Waters refuted it. He declined to talk about it which, in reality, means he said it.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 6, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're sticking your head in the sand

and trying to pretend theres nothing going on.

Waters has played in KC his entire career under the same GM and the same way of doing things. Peterson and the coaches he hired coddled the players, especially their favorites.

Theres nothing necessarily wrong with that, but the new regime is 180 degrees the opposite. They expect their players shut up and do their job. That’s something Brian’s going to have to deal with because its not changing.

I don’t know if Brian still wants out of KC as much as he did when the incident first happened, but its obvious he is having a hard time dealing with the fact that things have changed. Its just something he’s going to have to deal with.

by ChiefDJ on Jun 6, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, in reality, it means they don’t have nothing else to talk about, so lets harp on this!!

by T MO 5 on Jun 6, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

You can choose to believe it or you can't

It’s up to you. But the evidence is pretty overwhelming in this case.

(FYI…hit the ‘reply’ button when responding to a comment so it we can see who you’re responding to)

by Joel Thorman on Jun 6, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

In my opinion

sorry should have stated in my opinion judging from everything I have read and seen The man does not want to be a Chief. And yes I expect you to show up for work ready to do your job my boss expects me ready to work and I expect the same from the members of our team. Waters does not look ready to work to me maybe he will by season opener but imagine how much better we would be if they all showed up in shape and motivated maybe we would not go 2-14 again. Change is good and on this team was obviously needed.

by rockymtnchief on Jun 6, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

He 'tepped in it

the way he’s handled it, he got everything he had comming to him. Nice guy, good player but IMO he fumbled this situation and he’s eating a big helping of humble pie.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 6, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice Piece

But you failed to touch on Brian Waters’ personal feelings’ likened to that of an overly large baby.

I could get more sacks with my sack

by ArrowSpread on Jun 6, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Nope no edit function

The problem with it, in my eyes, is that people would later go back and change more the content of what they wrote rather than just a typo.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 6, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's too bad all this got out of hand

I think Waters was excited about what was happening in KC, maybe too excited so he made a bad choice by just showing up without calling. If Haley could have just said it wasn’t a good time and not said 22 guys off the street could have did better than Waters team, then Waters would have been behind the new powers 100%. With the way it did go down I think it will be hard to get everyone back on the same page. Waters has to be the one to put this behind him and want to be a Chief again. We can replace Waters but the person wont be as good not this year anyway.

by bringbacktheglory on Jun 6, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Great piece

Nice work PT. I love pieces like this and this brings up an important aspect that we often forget about even though it’s most important. Nothing like the upcoming uncapped season and even possible work stoppage to remind us of what’s most important to owner and player.

by Matt Conner on Jun 6, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

We’ll have to get something together on the players vs. owners re: CBA negotiations. It’s going to be an even hotter topic soon.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 6, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cassel made a good point

When he was asked in the Q&A whether he worries about the contract stuff. His response: That’s why I have an agent. “I don’t do contracts,” he said. The agent seperates football from business operations, allowing Cassel to focus on football football football without distraction, because that’s his job. “That other stuff will work itself out.”

I could get more sacks with my sack

by ArrowSpread on Jun 7, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

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