it just might be his last name that turns me on to this guy,
or could it be his raw talent as a “Football Player” not just a QB, im talking, this guy loves the game, waited for his oppertunity and took full advantage of it. He had a steller year for comeing off 3rd string and being trust into the starting slot.

im telling you guys, with some good coaching and time under center hes got no where to go but up. I mean think about it, the biggest knock is he cant play from under center, now tell me that Shi* cant be taught. i mean come on all it takes is snaps and repititon…

That’s his mold, at best he’s a Brett Favre at worst he’s Rex Grossman.

Here are some more ‘knocks:’ he throws too many ‘bad’ interceptions especially when he’s rattled (see the miami game), he’ll throw into triple coverage without any sort of look to several open guys, and in our opinion his biggest knock is that he underthrows receivers (not to mention he really can’t throw a fade pass at the NFL level).

That said, we’re not saying Cassel a sure thing either, and lord knows we love watching Bones play and run around. But somebody’s gotta burst this bubble that Thigpen’s got some magical ‘loveable loser underdog’ powers.

Now maybe he gets in again, makes a good run of it and then makes us suffer for a few years until he sufficiently develops his ‘favreiness,’ but we still say the smart money is on Cassel working out for us first.

Is Thiggy can get you out of your seat. Most of our “wow” plays that got me excited last year was Thigpen making a great throw on the move(Denver game, TG TD) or him just breaking it into the open field. I never understood why Falcon fans loved Vick but now I do, this guy is flatout fun to watch. Worst case scenario here is if Cassel falters we know we have a guy who can make this work pretty well.

we got for Cassel. I’m not all that thrilled with the prospect of paying him 14 mil. for one season, but it’s not like we’re jammed up against the cap. that 2nd round pick would’ve been nice, but getting Vrabel to lead that defense is almost worth that 2nd pick TO KC. Vrabel probably wouldn’t be worth that for many other teams, but he’s worth that to a young defense that had little to no leadership last season.

On top of that, you get Cassel who won, what, 10 games as a starter last year? That’s not bad. I like that Haley called Thigpen right up after an interview that Tyler gave and hold him not to concede the starting job. Competition at that position is always a little worrisome for the winner, cuz they’ll constantly be looking over their shoulder.

If the Vikings can’t land Favre this off season, I think about half way through training camp, I’m calling them up and asking what Tyler Thigpen would be worth to them, assuming Cassel has earned the starting spot here.

Is Thigpen only won one game as a starter. He can run around and be plucky and make you want to root for him, but at the end of the day he has to win games and he wasn’t able to do that.

I know some of the time you could say it wasn’t his fault (Bowe fumbling the onside kick),but there were many times that he had the ball in his hands at the end of the game with a chance to win it and couldn’t get it done.

THAT is what makes a good QB. You can put up all the pretty fantasy stats in the world, but in REALY football stats don’t matter. Wins do. Thigpen has not shown the ability to win games yet.

No, I don’t think he’s the greatest thing since Farve. No he didn’t win a lot of games. I do question how high his ceiling may be. But I think he is a leader. In a horrible season with very little supporting cast, he was about the only thing that shines in my memory as a positive from last year. He played his heart out and did all he knew how to do. Football is a team sport and he really didn’t have much of one to work with. I hope he gets to stick around and become a real NFL quarterback and I hope he ends up a starter somewhere. But it probably won’t be this year.

Say what you want about Cassel, but I think he is a real live NFL starting caliber quarterback. Yes he is a career bench warmer, but it took a pair of Heisman winners and maybe the best ever to keep him there. And to have been able to learn what Brady does to be Brady is valuable beyond measure. Yes he had a much better team around him, but he still had to run that offense, he still had to make the decisions. If he wasn’t worth a crap and it was all system and receivers, his TD to INT ratio would have been crap.

May the best man win this competition. I think that will be Cassel this year. My hope is Thiggy will learn some of the approach, preparation and mental outlook that I think Cassel has learned from Brady. Cassel had several years to learn these things before he got thrust into the fire. Thiggy got thrown to the wolves much earlier in his career and without a top-tier mentor to show the way. I’m gonna love watching this unfold. I think we are in great shape for QB right now.

1. finally has some experience behind him no after not starting since preschool. This could change the way he plays this year completely. Also, if Thiggy is pushin’ him everyday I think he will come out and surprise.

That 1. was supposed to be #7, but I’m sure you knew who I was talking about

I guess we will know after this year. If he does not pan out, it costs us a lot less to find that out. If he plays great, we may have to franchise him again and sign him to a big deal. I have said previously that the worst case scenario is that he plays like a top 5 QB, and it costs us a big pile of cash. I like that better that paying him an almost as big pile of cash and finding out that he is Scott Mitchell.

Evaluating FB talent is a lot like managing a stock porfolio….you look at fundamentals and decide if you are looking at a good investment or a bad investment considering your tolerance for risk. Is the upside worth risking the possible downside and how much money are you willing to spend to find out? Sometimes a investment that seems to have everything going for it falls flat on its face and other times the investment that people thought you were crazy for putting money into turns out to be the safest bet. While most that evaluate talent are pretty much on the same level, those that are able to effectively evaluate the intangibles and see what’s beyond the obvious are the ones on that find themselves on the top of the heap. Based on the possible upside Cassel has displayed I think that he is a good investment. Now if I had a talent on the level of Cutler already under center, I would not have gone after Cassel, I would have focused my money elsewhere (although I am thrilled that the Donkeys have effed up their franchise on what appears to be an EPIC level).

I do not believe we should compare the two QB’s, at least not now, not at this point of Thigpen’s career. Here’s my reason why we can’t compare them at this stage. Also will explain why KC fans are so eager to compare them.

Thigpen never played in the 2008 Patriots offense. Cassel never played in 2008 Chiefs offense. So it’s really hard to compare them in that aspect. But we do know that the 2008 Patriots team was by far a better TEAM than the 2008 Chiefs. Not just by win-loss. All around better leadership, coaching and talent.

I started to look at what I had written and I realized that its wayyyy too much for any comment so I started a whole new post for my reasoning behind this discussion. See here for my entire comment

I love this web site, i pull off an article for fantasy football on Cassel and Thigpen and 24 hours later ive got 45 minutes of reading, and all of the posts are excellent points. So, just let me say, I love you guys and thank you for making the down time that much more interesting.