Report: Chiefs' Waters a No Show for Charity Event; Attendance at Mini-Camp Unlikely?
by Joel Thorman on Jun 4, 2009 9:15 AM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs guard Brian Waters did not attend a charity event last night. The charity, First Downs for Down Syndrome, held an auction last night. The catch? Waters is an honorary co-chair of the organization.
On the surface it appears Waters' absence might confirm the incision between him and the Chiefs. Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk is speculating that Waters' absence might be an indication that he won't be attending the Chiefs mandatory mini-camp this weekend.
According to Pro Football Talk, several other Chiefs, including all of the offensive lineman and quarterbacks Matt Cassel and Tyler Thigpen, attended the event. Rudy Niswanger is also an honorary co-chair.
Waters has been a mainstay in many Kansas City area charity organizations in addition to being the NFLPA representative for the Chiefs.
There could be a variety of reasons for his absence.
- Maybe he was out of town.
- Maybe he wasn't even scheduled to be there.
- Maybe he didn't want to deal with the possibility of folks asking about his reported issues with Chiefs management.
Or maybe the February 27th article by Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star was spot on. One thing is for sure, though, we'll know more about how deep his disdain for the new regime runs by tomorrow's mandatory mini-camp.
As Florio points out, there's no financial repercussions for missing out on a charity event (whether he was scheduled to be there or not, which we don't know) but missing the Chiefs mini-camp this weekend could cost him nearly $50,000 [Edit - It's actually around $8,000 maximum for missing a mandatory mini-camp and around $15,000 a day for missing training camp. -Chris].
This is so out of character from what we've heard and seen written about Brian Waters that I am still guessing he will attend the mini-camp. It's one thing to miss out on practice, it's another to miss out on a charity event, which is why I don't think this is an indication of anything.
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I didn’t want to write anything on this because we don’t even know if he was supposed to be there.
I still think he’ll attend mini camp.
not a good sign
Hopefully it is because he didn’t want to have to field a bunch of questions about the tiff. My fingers are crossed that he will be a ProBowler for the Chiefs again this year.
If he didn't want to field questions last night...
Why would he want to field questions after mandatory camp? I don’t see this as a reason to not show up for a charity event that he has been a staunch supporter in the past.
I really hope your right about Waters.
I would prefer to see him leave KC with class like Gonzalez, so we can all have fond memories of him instead of the alternative.
I will wait
to here what the reason is that he didn’t show up. But if he didn’t show up because of his tiff with managment Brian Waters is a POS! That charity needs people like him, and other athletes to function. I really hope that his not being there can be justified because I really like him but if it can’t be justified I stand by my comments of him being a POS.
Water = Cry Baby!
It’s one thing to complain about not getting to shoot the breeze with the higher ups, but to skip out on a charity event because he is mad at the Chiefs organization??? That’s a little ridiculous and childish. Grow up Brian. You’re a grown man, act like one.
What, this city owns him and he needs to be at charity events?
Carl Peterson required players to participate in these charity events. From what we’ve seen, Pioli won’t be requiring this. All Water’s owes this city is to play hard for 4 quarters 16 times a year.
Screw Him
If he doesn’t show up and holds out it will only prove that he does not deserve the labels “classy”, “team-player” and “professional”. The team he played for went 2-14 last season. No Chiefs team he has played for has won a playoff game. If you can’t take your lumps like a man, if you can’t deal with the fact that someone pointed out that you have played for a lousy team the past two seasons, perhaps you are part of the problem. I say good riddance if he can’t deal with it.
Interesting
So far everyone seems to think Mr. Waters are wrong and acting poorly but what did happen between him and management? All we know is what little bit that has been said in the press. Could Mr. Waters have a good reason? Maybe he has a sick family member, is he a private guy does he normal tell the fans everything that is going on in his life? Could he be right and the management treated him like dirt. I am not saying any one is wrong here but I will wait a bit longer to see if the truth comes out. So far from what I have seen Mr. Waters have been a good player with nothing I can recall being overly negative till maybe now. I would prefer this over the Terrell Owens parade of things …..
Waters was Whitlock's source...
If you ask me.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 4, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think there is a right or wrong in this instance...
I think it is a serious lack of communication between both parties. Pride and arrogance on both sides in this case. This incident happened two days before there was a MAJOR deal cooking to acquire Matt Cassel. Timing was really bad for Waters to come waltzing in and demand to speak with anyone. (If that is the way it really went down)
Haley and Waters both need to get off their high horses and sit down and have a serious discussion about this and get it resolved.
The 2009 Chiefs w/o Brian Waters could be really, really bad.
I have been on Waters side during this whole thing
Waters fits the Pioli type player to a tee, so if a guy like that wants to talk to me I would take 5 mins out of my life to talk. He has always been a football and helping others type of person so if he didn’t come to the charity because of his problem with Pioli/Haley then I have lost respect for him. If he didn’t want to answer questions you just say no comment. I hope there is another reason for him not being there, because this does not fit what he has showed the whole time he has been here.
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions
Sorry dude,
But in the real world you make an appointment and don’t just assume that these guys don’t have more important things going on. Besides, it is just foolish what he did anyways. When you travel 4 states to show up and speak with someone when they not expecting you, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Disappointment which it looks like Waters did not handle very well.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
I agree he should have called ahead of time
But I have been in management for a long time and if one of the few good employees i had came to talk i would, but if I happened to be to busy that day I would make some time in the next few days. I’m just saying Pioli/Haley could have did things differently. All of them need to man up and make this team better, because this team is better with Waters than without. In one of Haley interviews he said Cassel was always searching them out so much they almost had to throw him out,(not exact quote) Why is it OK for him maybe because he is Pioli’s boy from NE and not just a hold over from the Chiefs?
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 4, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
The difference is...
“Why is it OK for him maybe because he is Pioli’s boy from NE and not just a hold over from the Chiefs?”
Waters came bustling in when Haley first started in the position. Free Agency hadn’t even started yet, and Pioli/Haley were getting their ducks in a row. Matt Cassell bothering Haley has came after Haley has had a chance to settle in, and a chance to evaluate the talent. Training had begun, and Cassel was in asking questions about a new offense.
Slightly different situation… and timing is everything.
Remember
that the Waters incident happened just before the trade for Cassel and Vrabel, so there’s a good chance that Pioli and Haley were a little busy with the Patriots.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
In my job...
If I flew to Thialand to speak with our President and demanded to speak to him about how operations in the United States could efficiently operate better…. I would probably be beaten down by security officers. Yet if I did make it to the President of the company he would probably tell me to get back to work.
Why should Waters expect anything different than this(minus the beat down).
Mr. Brian Waters, if you are out there reading this
Pride is a bitch. Let it go, please!
by TheQ on Jun 4, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
As a member of the military...
I signed a contract when I got my job. If I don’t show up I go to jail. Waters signed a contract and I seriously doubt that his contract states he will be given full access to the Owner, President, GM or Head Coach at the time of his choosing. I have ZERO sympathy for Waters… He has a contract by signing it he agrees to honor that which is to show up to work on time.
Let’s all not lose sight of the fact that he is a good GUARD on a bad O-line… He is still a guard… Good guard play will not make or break this Chiefs team season.
by sandpro on Jun 4, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
like I said
As I posted in the other thread about Waters, we really don’t know what happened. From the sound of things he just popped in out of the blue. Even for a boss who has an open door policy, you have to allow the boss to do boss stuff if he is under the gun. The ONLY word we have on this is Whitlock’s article. Maybe Waters wanted him to print it and maybe he jumped on the story and just made a big deal out of nothing. We will find out tomorrow.
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