Free Agent LB Willie McGinest Looking to Play in a 3-4 Defense
Former New England Patriots and Cleveland Browns LB/DE Willie McGinest has his sights set on one more year in the NFL. If the free agent had his way, it would be in a 3-4 defense. Considering the jump his sack totals took in the first year he moved from defensive end to linebacker in the Patriots 3-4 (5.5 to 9.5), this is the best move for him statistically.
A long-time veteran of the 3-4 defense in New England and Cleveland, McGinest said he would be interested in playing for someone from the Bill Parcells or Bill Belichick coaching tree. When asked by Albert Breer of The Sporting News what he wants in a team for final NFL season, he said familiarity with the defense is a must.
But a familiar situation— where I know what I'm getting and what I'm going to be a part of, where I know what to expect of the coaches, and they know what to expect of me, where I have a familiarity with the defense, knowing that 3-4 inside and out—would be great. Those are places where I can see things before they happen and where I could help younger guys.
Hmm...the Kansas City Chiefs run a 3-4 and Todd Haley is very clear of what he expects of his players. Let's see how he might fit with the Chiefs:
- Belichick and Parcells coaching tree? Check.
- Knowing the 3-4 "inside and out"? Check.
- Helping younger guys? Check.
There are plenty of downsides including age (37) and ability (One sack in '08) but those same concerns have been brought up with other acquisitions by the new regime this offseason namely Zach Thomas and Mike Vrabel.
The potential snafu in this plan would be whether Pioli's former colleagues in Foxboro, MA would be interested in him. According to McGinest, going back to the team that drafted him 15 years ago "wouldn't be a bad way to finish up."
Why wouldn't you want to go to a really good team, which is always close to the Super Bowl, which was in one a couple years ago, was a game away from another one, which has great coaching and is a great organization with a well put-together roster?
Considering Scott Pioli's affinity for veterans that can teach the youngsters the ropes and players with whom he's familiar, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs were one of the teams McGinest said he's had a "few talks" with. Whether McGinest gets a better offer is the question.
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Due to the lack of experience at our OLB spot besides Vrabel
we should look at all possibilities. But it just doesn’t seem that McGinest has much left. Situational, leadership role at best. We really would be Patriots Midwest….
I know Greg Ellis is not considered a great character guy, but he would have been a better signing from a production standpoint. And you can’t tell me he would have rather played for the ever-imploding Raiders over the Chiefs. I just can’t buy it.
Ellis
Who will be 34 when the season starts, also signed a three year deal.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 30, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Could put him in in strictly passing downs where you want him to pressure the QB.
to keep him healthier.
by GenericBrand on Jun 30, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Ellis
Didn’t Ellis also want to play as a 4-3 DE rather than a 3-4 DE/LB? I thought that was a major need for him. He didnt like switching to OLB for Dallas. Plus I love it when the Raiders sign guys past their primes to long term deals. Makes me laugh everytime!!!
I heard Neal Smith wants to play one more year also....
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jun 30, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions
Niel Smith sucks
He left here for more money,I didn’t like it but who can blame him for it too much. The things i don’t like about him is he went to Denver and when his playing time was over he came back here and tried to make more money off the fame he had here.
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 30, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We are going to be known as the place that Old Patriots go to retire
or get 2 sacks. Whichever comes first. :)
2 sacks is 20% of our last years total
Ill take what i can get.
by GenericBrand on Jun 30, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
no way
It doesnt seem like he has much left but this guys could help. we have Vrabel,Thomas,DJ, after that its questionable to Turk,Hali but honestly id feel A LOT more comfortable to have him in the lineup. oldest linebacking corps but it would deffinatly help us….with the experience atleast
Meh
He looked pretty much done two years ago and last season, so while I won’t be unhappy if the Chiefs sign him I won’t really care all that much. I’m sure Pioli would get him for a good price on a one year deal.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.
Who is exactly mentoring Hali and McBride?
The LB Coach or Vrabel, Who has been teaching the OLB position with Vrabel outside of mandatory OTA’s. This Guy
http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/gary_gibbs/
have to read some more.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Tru Dat - My Bad
Geaux Chiefs
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 30, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
That would just put Hali on the bench instead of him actually learning through games. If they are trying to see if Hali isn’t a wasted pick, then they will give him a shot at OLB…otherwise they would just try to trade him. Not bring in a 37 yr old vet who only has 1 year left and only had 1 sack last year.
I still think Matt Jones should be looked at.

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