The Chiefs are Bringing in Veteran Safety Mike Brown for a Visit
by Chris Thorman on Jun 3, 2009 6:56 AM CDT
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And the Scott Pioli strategy of filling out the roster with accomplished veteran NFL players continues:
The Kansas City Chiefs are bringing in the veteran safety for a visit today, according to a league source, in a move that would reunite him with first-year head coach Todd Haley, who was the Bears' receivers coach from 2001 to 2003.
The Bears let Brown's contract expire, and he has been a free agent for three months. Brown told another source he is motivated to prove he remains a starting-caliber player. His injury history includes a torn anterior cruciate ligament in the season opener at San Diego in 2007.
The Bears drafted Brown 39th overall in the 2000 NFL Draft. He was selected to the Pro Bowl in 2005 and was an All-Pro selection in 2001 and 2005. (Ed. Note: Table added by Primetime at 7:55 AM)
| Year | Games Played | Interceptions | Tackles | Touchdowns |
| 2000 | 16 | 1 | 80 | 1 |
| 2001 | 16 | 5 | 51 | 2 |
| 2002 | 16 | 3 | 78 | 1 |
| 2003 | 16 | 2 | 62 | 0 |
| 2004 | 2 | 0 | 9 | 1 |
| 2005 | 12 | 3 | 63 | 1 |
| 2006 | 6 | 0 | 19 | 1 |
| 2007 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 |
| 2008 | 15 | 2 | 57 | 0 |
The Kansas City Chiefs have their starters at safety - Jarrad Page and Bernard Pollard - but seriously lack depth at the position. Behind Page and Pollard, the Chiefs have veteran and defensive captain Jon McGraw, undrafted free agent Ricky Price and 2008 3rd round pick Dajuan Morgan. Brown would added some much need, Pioli style depth. Plus, like a Zach Thomas, Mike Brown will help the younger guys:
Brown is also noted by teammates and coaches for his on-field coaching ability. He made the NFL transitions much easier for his fellow safeties Chris Harris and Danieal Manning by making sure they were in the correct positions. Brian Urlacher often referred to him as the actual leader of the defense.
This is a Scott Pioli/Todd Haley signing to a T. Brown played for Chicago during Haley's tenure there as the wide recievers coach.
The big knock on Brown is his injury history, which is a big reason the Bears released him. Brown injured his Achilles in 2004; a Lisfranc fracture in 2006; knee injury in 2007; and a calf injury late in the 2008 season that soured the Bears on Brown and his new contract. The last year Brown completed an entire season injury free was 2003.
So, should the Chiefs sign Mike Brown? I say yes. It makes so much sense - from veteran leadership to depth. This is what Scott Pioli does best - find veterans, bring them into the fold and maximize their value.
For more reading, the Chicago Sun-Times has some Mike Brown career highlights listed here.
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The guy was always a playmaker....
He just couldn’t stay healthy. He’s worth a look.
by rustdog on Jun 3, 2009 6:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown...
Could be the key in DaJuan Morgan’s career.
by Dono on Jun 3, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In a good or bad way?
If Brown has trouble staying healthy, then I think it would be a good situation for him to come into. We’ve got Page, Pollard and Morgan who are all looking for playing time. Put Brown in there as a situational player.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 3, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he’d probably end Morgan’s Chief careeer as his replacement.
by dablueguy on Jun 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what one of my Chicago buddies said:
Yeah I think hes really good, unfortunately just keeps getting injured. Last year was the most he has played in a long time. He kind of anchored our D…when he was out we couldn’t do as much. I honestly believe we could have won the super bowl (in 2006) if he was playing. That said, very small chance you get even 12-14 games out of him
by Joel Thorman on Jun 3, 2009 7:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Often...
A player’s knowledge and experience are much more valuable than what you can get out of him on the field. Just because he won’t play every game doesn’t mean we shouldn’t offer Jarrad, Bernard, and DaJuan an All-Pro veteran presence.
by Dono on Jun 3, 2009 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sign Mike Brown...
To a one year deal just like the rest and you won’t regret it.
by Dono on Jun 3, 2009 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's Right...
I live in Chicago and what your friend said, and what was written in the post, is right on. The guy is top notch on and off the field. His body just won’t let him perform the way he is capable of performing.
by jarodhart on Jun 3, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sign him up
Sounds like a very solid player and a veteran leader. If nothing else, he will push the other safeties to get better in order to beat him out. Then we have great backup. The leadership thing cannot be overstated.
by Zodeman on Jun 3, 2009 8:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't Donald Washington...
Transition into a safety or is he to small?
Anyways I think that this would be a good pick up as he will be a motivator if not a playmaker.
by ravenhawk on Jun 3, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Opps
thought i read Travis Daniels. Gimme that +1 back
by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 3, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everything being said about Flowers makes me think SS might be in his future
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 3, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve
you’ve fallen off your rocker if you think Flowers will ever play Strong Safety. In fact, Herm Edwards will lead a team to the Super Bowl before that happens
by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 3, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for him singing
That is one of the things I hated about Herm when he came here, he got rid of the vets we had and just gave starting jobs to rookies. Pioli is getting competition. If Herm would have did that we wouldn’t have had the dark years. Rookies need vets to help them get better.
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 3, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am ok if the contract is right.
He will most likely not play 16 games. If the contract is cheap, or based on playing time I would be ok with it.
by saskwatch on Jun 3, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is ridiculous to suggest the Chiefs 'seriously lack depth' at safety
Such a statement highlights ignorance of historical roster tendencies. The Chiefs will only keep 4 safeties. Presuming they keep Pollard and Page as starters, this leaves them with McGraw, their special teams captain, and Morgan, a 3rd round choice from last year. If they bring in Brown, Morgan is gone.
by Dagda on Jun 3, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the veteran leadership thing...
We have a couple vet LBs so having a vet safety that could, presumably, mentor the CBs as well wouldn’t be a bad thing at all.
by Primussux on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As my moniker might suggest
i am a husker fan and a chiefs fan. Mike Brown was a beast in college, back in the days when people feared playing the Blackshirts because they knew they were going to get hurt, and this man dealt ALOT of punishment. He continued to do so in the NFL as well. I think he can come in and still be productive, his best days are behind him but he can offer alot still. Sign him, he is a quality player and person and we are a better team and franchise with him on the roster.
by huskersnchiefs on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Roster spots
I was wondering the same thing as Dagda. What does it do to the precious 53 man roster spots? If it has the effect of knocking Dujuan Morgan to the practice squad…then not a good decision because we will lose him. Someone will pick DuJuan Morgan up on waiver wire. We have to be careful about this from a roster spot perspective. What consequences does it have?
by JBChiefs on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Harrison was an injured castoff if I remember correctly and wasn’t Laywer Milloy a similar situation also?
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jun 3, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morgan can’t be on the PS.
Unless they have decsided Morgan is just another Herm bust from the last draft, OR Brown is being brought in to replace the stiff McGraw, I’d pass on him.
by dablueguy on Jun 3, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pass.
Signing Brown means the end of McGraw or Morgan.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 3, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably McGraw
McGraw is a good player but he will never be a starter. Morgan might be someday.
by Vince D on Jun 3, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might be good guy to bring in on obvious passing downs.
I understand he has had health concerns but, he used to get a lot of interceptions. A lot!
If they took this approach toward Brown, his body wouldn’t take the beating of being a full time starter which could make hime valuable in the rotation.
When I used to watch him in Chicago, he seemed like he was ALWAYS in position to make the play. Especially when the game was on the line.
He is definitely worth a look.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 3, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McGraw will be back to sacking groceries.
McGraw is solid but he’s not starting material… this guy is. And he’d only be a backup and a valuable teacher… he’d be great for DaJuan Morgan’s development.
Our secondary: Page, Pollard, Brown, Morgan, Flowers, Carr, Washington, Leggett. I love the depth and the youth.
by Vince D on Jun 3, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McGraw is a great special teams player though.
And last I checked we cant really afford to be shipping out our good special teamers. I like the idea of Brown but not at the expense of one of our other safeties. I think if he plays a secondary role on the team it would help his injury situation but again unless theres a way to keep 5 safeties on the roster I’d pass.
by GenericBrand on Jun 3, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Brown is a great player on and off the field....
…. If he were to come in and try to make the team then why not let him? Does everyone think Morgan can’t out play him? I have been a Mike Brown fan for years, at his best he was every bit as good as Ed Reed. If McGraw goes then so be it, Morgan will just have to step it up in his place. In my opinion, you make room for a Mike Brown.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jun 3, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With all this depth at safety
Perhaps we could experiment with Pollard at linebacker? I’ve heard people here talk about that possibility before.
by Vince D on Jun 3, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not Mike Brown at LB?
Seriously he could play the tweener role where he is a roving saftey, like Harrison has done for the Pats for years. It gave Rodney a new lease on life in the NFL, he was no spring chicken and it seemed he was going to be done in the league, plus the scheme gave NE the ability of covering up his diminished skills. Versatility is the name of the game, keeping offenses guessing what the defense is gonna do next instead of the other way around. A shift of power if you will.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jun 3, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 to Vince.... forgot to put it in the 1st post, sorry
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jun 3, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
If we sign Mike Brown and as result Jon McGraw loses his job, would you then call that being " Brown-bagged"? If thats the case, then McGraw should have some familiarity with that
by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 3, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zzzziiinnnnngggggaaaaa!
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
by BigRedChief on Jun 3, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even
if he can’t stay healthy…which may be a possibility, he can still help out Safties out. Hurt or not, it won’t stop him from verbally helping them.
by Wrestler189s on Jun 3, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been thinking about it all day
and I change my vote to “No”. I don’t think we should sign him because I believe at this point in his career McGraw is better than Brown. Even though he’s only 1 one year younger he’s a lot more durable, he’s a lot taller, and as elected special teams captain he has established respect among his teammatess. For certain, Brown is a much better option than Keith Davis though
by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 3, 2009 6:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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