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Former Kansas City Chiefs Hall, Green on Top 25 Overrated/Underrated List

Continuing with ESPN's All-Decade rankings, we look at the most overrated and underrated players of the decade.  Trent Green and Dante Hall were each on the list.

Can you guess which player goes with which list?

No Chiefs quarterback put up numbers like Green over a five year stretch (and likely never will).  He also only made one playoff appearance (and lost) in his five full seasons with the Chiefs.

Dante Hall was one of the most electrifying returners of all time (came in right behind Devin Hester in special teams player of the decade).  Dubbed the human joystick, Hall had a stretch in 2003 where he had four consecutive weeks with a touchdown return - all of them ended up being the game winner.

Click through to find out which player was the 9th most overrated and 25th most underrated player of the decade.

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Dante Hall the 9th most overrated player of the decade

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According to ESPN, Hall's record setting 2002 and 2003 seasons were a two year flash in the pan before he returned back to being a regular, inconsistent kick returner.

Remember when Dante Hall was "the X-Factor," and ESPN The Magazine had him on the cover as a possible MVP candidate? It turned out he was subject to the same inconsistencies as the rest of the kickoff returners in the league, and he's an average slot receiver at best. Then Devin Hester came along a few years later, and did everything 20 times better than Hall did.

The statistics agree with this assessment.  His 2002-2004 seasons were very, very good but the rest of his time in Kansas City (and later St. Louis) was average at best.  His career average of 10.5 yards per punt return were only topped in the '02 and '03 seasons while his career average of 24.0 yards per kick return were only topped in '03 and '04.  The rest of the time was....average.

Trent Green the 25th most underrated player of the decade

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Considering the importance of the quarterback position, and Green's stellar, Pro Bowl caliber play, I would argue that he should be higher on this list.  His 2002-2004 seasons were nothing short of spectacular.  The numbers he put up in his five full seasons in Kansas City will never be matched by another passer in franchise history.

According to Football Outsiders' DYAR stats, Trent Green is one of the five most valuable quarterbacks of the decade, behind Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre and Drew Brees. He ranked among the top three quarterbacks for three years, 2002 to 2004, and was fifth in 2005. Green was also an excellent scrambler, who rarely took off unless he could get a first down.

You learn something new every day.  I had no idea Green was such an effective scrambler.

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9th most overrated????

Thats a little harsh in my opinion…Hall had many big returns in his career with the Chiefs. And not just big yard returns, alot of returns were giving Trent Green a short field to work with. We all now thats your chances of scoring goes up on a short field. Like you stated primetime, in 2003 Halls 4 touchdown return stretch all resulted in game winners.

Zack Greinke for Cy Young!!!!!

by KCchief5555 on Jun 29, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not just TDs

Timely TDs for wins and TDs made out of nothing.

by GenericBrand on Jun 29, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another little side piece…Halls return for a touchdown against Denver here at Arrowhead alone is a better highlight piece than ALL of Devin Hesters together.

Zack Greinke for Cy Young!!!!!

by KCchief5555 on Jun 29, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was at that game, in that endzone

And BOY were there a few blocks in the back that should have drawn some whistles.

I could get more sacks with my sack

by ArrowSpread on Jun 29, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, yeah!

I hate to say it, but it’s true. It was one of the best moments in Chiefs history – or at least recent memory – but watch the video. There were 2-3 illegal blocks by Chiefs players that could have (should have) brought it back to their own 10-yard line. ;)

I’m not going to complain, though. Not like poor officiating has never been against our favor. ;)

by jbj8609 on Jun 29, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Espn ranked Hester ahead of Hall but theres no way Hester is/was as good as Hall. Hall made so many yards out of returns that shouldve been absolutely nothing and Hester isn’t even close to that.

by GenericBrand on Jun 29, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Green was also an excellent scrambler, who rarely took off unless he could get a first down."

WTF……Green was never known as a scrambler…What are they talking about..

Way too harsh on Hall….Hall had 2 amazing years, and 2 more very good years…He’ll always be one of the best return men

by CALIFAN1986 on Jun 29, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 On Hall

What do they expect from these guys to have this sort of production for 10 years? Even Hester isn’t the returner he once was. I think 2 great seasons is pretty good when teams should have stopped kicking the ball to him half way through the first.

There's always next week,,, and when we run out of weeks, there's always next year!

by Spiderwomn69 on Jun 29, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

“He also only made one playoff appearance (and lost) in his five full seasons with the Chiefs.”

Uh, didn’t he “play” in two playoff games? Both against the Colts, one in KC, one in Indy.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Jun 29, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You Are Correct, Sir

They were probably cherry-picking a bit because he missed most of that season with a concussion, but he did make it to the playoffs twice.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.

by UCrawford on Jun 29, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

It was a cherrypick/oversight on my part. I was talking about his full seasons.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 29, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good.
I was afraid I was still pissed over that game in Indy for the wrong reasons.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Jun 29, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall was number 10 on best return aces of all time

and Hester was number 1. Explain that one. I don’t understand why everyone is saying Hall was a one-season wonder!?! Like CALIFAN said, he had TWO, not ONE but TWO great years and a couple more average years. Not only that but he was also pretty effective in the passing game even though the experts try to say he only returned kicks. Hall had more productive seasons than Hester and was playing offense while doing it. You can’t say that about too many return guys.

by jonnyu on Jun 29, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Return Guys In General Are Overrated

Hester is probably getting ranked as high as he did because he’s still got quite a bit of career in front of him, possibly as a primary receiver (which Hall never was).

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
5. Larry Johnson will gain 0 yards rushing for the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs.

by UCrawford on Jun 29, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but Hester doesn't return kicks anymore

and he’s not even that good of a number one.

by jonnyu on Jun 29, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why??

Dante hall overrated?? maybe in the last few years of his career but he shouldnt be that high. Dante had a stretch of almost 4 more kick/punt returns that he almost returned for a TD but still thats a little much to be ranked that high. Trent on the other hand should be ranked higher what he did for Kansas City was simply amazing. he fired up an offense that KC hasn’t seen in decades. But they gotta give credit to that amazing O-Line we had. all the success should go to them

by Chiefs190 on Jun 29, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Near the end of Dante's run in KC he was a liability on the field.

He’d dance around on far too many kicks rather than taking the sure thing. You’re not going to hit a homerun everytime, sometime you need to take what you’re given.

Viva 65tosspowertrap! The master of incoherent, nonsensical ramblings.

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 29, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

trent green or ethan hawke?

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Jun 29, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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