My thoughts on the upcoming season. Disagree?
First and foremost, lets recap what has happened thus far, my thoughts and predictions for the future based on those moves. I'm going to go through every aspect of the team that I can possibly think of to break down so I'm sure this should get interesting
Players lost:
Damon Huard - No need for him. No disrespect, it was great what he did for us when he filled in for trent green but come on..hes done.
Will Franklin - I'm a bit disappointed here. Franklin has a good mix of Size, Speed and Athletic ability. He could have developed into a great deep threat. He has a minor learning disorder that makes him a bit slower in learning plays, and tends to take his eyes off the ball to scan the field before securing the catch, but those are things that can be worked with. I was very surprised in his release.
Tony Gonzalez - I'm really not too upset. Tony deserves to have a chance at a superbowl. I just dont think that could happen with us. It would be great to have him, and he would set a great example for our young guys but I think we'll be okay. Atleast Cottam had 1 season to learn from the best.
Adrian Jones, Jason Bain, Rocky Boiman, Pat Thomas, David Macklin, Oliver Celestin - these guys did nothing for us last year. Jones as no good at RG, Boiman was a fill in at LB along with Thomas. Neither of them played well. Boiman did show a few flashes though, but I think any player in the NFL can have a good play here n there.
Brian Johnston - He wont fit the 3-4. We already have DJ, Thomas, Vrabel, Beisel, Demarrio, at LB with Tamba and Turk trying to make the switch to LB, that leaves us with 7 LB's, not counting other fill in's. Hes too small for DE in the 3-4 and too slow for OLB.
Donnie Edwards, Patrick Surtain - gettin old. Past their prime. let them go.
Players Gained:
Matt Cassel - I was a huge Thigpen fan. I hated that we traded for Cassel. But the more I look at his film last year (even though it was with 1 of the best potential teams) he started slow but learned fast. I like that. He adjusted quickly. I want to see what he can do and I think hes going to be okay.
Bobby Engram - I believe hes going to be more of a mentor than anything. I hope the Engram move isnt what caused us to drop Franklin.
Mike Goff - A solid upgrade over Adrian Jones. He should help anchor a suspect rightside of the line.
Eric Ghiaciuc - I am not thrilled here. He was a weak player for a weak Bengals line. If he beats out Niswanger, I hope hes better with a pro bowl LG next to him.
Mike Vrabel - Excellent addition. Should help progress DJ to the next level. Its now or never for DJ. Vrabel can play inside or out, and can pass on blitzing knowledge. Hes getting old but again will be a great mentor.
Zach Thomas - I like this addition as well because we need a tackling machine and we need someone to teach how to play that way. Thomas may not be at that level of talent anymore, but he still has the knowledge. I think hes going to help DJ more than Vrabel will.
Monty Beisel - I love the fact that hes back. Hes a great "6th man" as he can come off the bench into any LB position and know what to do.
Mike Brown - Comes from a successful defense. I really like our secondary the way it is though. Maybe sub him in on 2nd or 3rd and long situations.
Tony Curtis, Corey Mays, Travis Daniels - these are more unknowns..we'll see if any are sleepers.
The Draft:
Tyson Jackson - I LOVE this pick. Everyone wanted Aaron Curry but I wanted to trade down and take TJ. Im sure Pioli tried to trade down and couldnt. Jackson is the PERFECT fit for the 3-4. Him and Dorsey used to DOMINATE at LSU and if Jackson can play 3-4, I know Dorsey can too. They are young guys who have 2 different styles and can learn from each other, as well as compete to push each other. I'm very excited about this pick.
Alex Magee - I was a bit stunned on this pick, I felt we could have grabbed a quality C or RT with this pick. he should add some depth behind Dorsey and Tyson though.
Donald Washington - I'm like this guy. I dont have much to say because I think our secondary is great the way it is and he will only be a 4th CB unless he beats out leggett which may or may not happen.
Colin Brown - I'd love to see him come in and take McIntosh's place. Just please upgrade McIntosh. Please Please PLEASE.
Quinten Lawrence - This is the player to watch. Hes a great replacement to Franklin.
Williams, OConnell and Succop I dont know. Succop may beat out Barth but who knows.
Positional Breakdowns
Quarterbacks - Cassel will hopefully continue to build on his improvement from last year. He wont have the luxeries of Moss and Welker or a line to protect him but thats only going to help him make faster decisions. Thigpen will be a confident backup and if all else fails, Tin Foil Croyle is ready to get injured again.
Runningbacks - LJ, Charles, Smith, what more could you ask for? You got LJ to power between the tackles, Charles to take it around the corner, and smith to bounce it ouside off the counter. Great combo of Power, Speed and Agility between those 3 players.
Offensive Line - Albert, Waters, Niswanger, Goff, McIntosh is what I think it will be. But, Albert and Waters are the only two i think are locked in as starters. Niswanger and Goff could switch places (I hope they do) and McIntosh could get beat out by Herb Taylor or Colin Brown.
Wide Receivers - Dwayne Bowe is ready to make the jump to stardom. The sophomore slump is out of the way. No more dropped passes! Mark Bradley is ready to break out as well. The loss of Gonzo means more DT's on Bowe. Engram and Lawerence might be in there streaking across the middle somehwere, or even Charles who sees plenty of passes out of the backfield.
Defensive Line - Young. very young. That could be a problem. I see Dorsey, Tank and Jackson with Magee Edwards and Boone (i think we still have boone..) subbing in. Tank will be in his 3rd, Dorseys 2nd, and Jacksons 1st season. I'm a bit concerned but these guys are huge and should command doubleteams. Tank is STRONG and can take on 2 guys. Dorsey and Jackson could each take 2 if needed. This should free up space for the LB's to make tackles. The size and talent is great, the experience and fact that its tough for defensive players to make the jump leaves me worried
Linebackers - I think we'll be okay. Between DJ, and Demarrio we should have speed. Vrabel and Hali should give us a rushing LB option and Thomas and Beisel would be our ball hawks along with DJ. Again, I dont know how this will play out.
Defensive Backs - I'm very excited about these guys. Last year we had no line, no pressure on the QB and it could have been MUCH worse if it wasnt for the play of our Dbacks. These guys are going to become something special.
Special Teams - whos our KR/PR? Is Barth or Succop our FG kicker? Whos the place kicker? I like the fact that Haley is actually looking for guys who are great in coverage in special teams.
Predictions:
Offensively - Our O-Line is the group to watch. If they succeed, we should see a great improvement in the offense. Bowe is in his 3rd year and ready to break out. Bradley is ready for his chance and Engram is going to lead these guys mentally. Cassel must prove hes the leader to command the offense.
Defensively - Again, it depends on the D line. If our young guys up front can do their job, our Linebackers and safties should be able to stuff the run. If our rushers can put some pressure on the QB, our Dbacks are going to have the heyday we wanted to have last year. We have some fast guys who can make plays but we gotta have some pressure on the QB to seal the deal.
Ravens - L
Raiders - W
Eagles - L
Giants - L
Cowboys - L
Redskins - L
Chargers - W
Bye
Jaguars - W
Raiders - W
Steelers - L
Chargers - L
Broncos - W
Bills - W
Browns - W
Bengals - W
Broncos - L
8-8 final record. No playoffs.
What do you think?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Great post. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on all the players. The 8-8 record would be a great improvement. I really hope that we are able to win at least one game against the NFC East, and if I had to chose only one it would be the Cowboys. That should be a fun day with both teams wearing the original uniforms.
by zbschiefs on Jun 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys
I sure hope we win that game since it will be my first time at Arrowhead and I think my sister is going with me….she’s a Cowboys fan. I WANT THE LAST LAUGH DAMMIT! I’m just sayin
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Jul 6, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the chiefs will go 9-7 and advance to the playoffs. You guys will sweep denver and beat the cowgirls but you will lose to san diego twice. Your this years dolphins
GO FINS!!!
by Jte27 on Jun 28, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Although I don’t agree with some of your W/L predictions, I too believe we will go 8-8. It got San Diego in the playoffs last year so who knows!
by kcchiefsfan81 on Jun 28, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great stuff, Petey...
Very well done…
One thing I wanted to mention the other day in my post was that I wish we had kept Donnie now that we are switching…i understand the injury issue but that was under Herm and we were not exactly in the best condition under herm….He could have been productive…
by woodman212 on Jun 28, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Donnie is available :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 28, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corey Mays is one hel of a special team player.
He will make an instant impact there a la Gary Stills. Great write up +1
by GenericBrand on Jun 28, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TOUGH SCHEDULE DUDE!
Whoever wins AFC WEST is gonna be tough in the playoffs. I think it will be us @ 9-7! Probally get beat by PIOLI $ VRABEL ol crew! BUT DEFINETLY MAKING A STATEMENT ACROSS THE NFL! WE HAVE ALOT OF TALENT EVERYWHERE! SPRCIAL TEAMS MY ONLY CONCERN
by Dan Saleaumua on Jun 28, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I personally think this is a little too optimistic...
I dont like predicting wins this early, there is going to be teams who are good that no one expected and vice versa.
Hell if we go 7-9 this year Im gonna be fairly ecstatic.
And my two bits on the Tony Gonzalez thing is, good riddance. Im a firm believer in if your not with us your against us, and he clearly didn’t want to be here. Ironically the NFC south has a history of teams going from last to first, so wouldn’t it be quite weird if they seriously regress next year, and the Chiefs made the playoffs.
Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals
by averagegatsby on Jun 28, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's always a range of what is possible
Unless you are Detroit or St. Louis, if you look at the games that easily could go either way, both San Diego games, Dallas, Buffalo, Cincinatti, etc. you are looking at somewhere between 6-10 and 12-4, no different than any other year (at this time of the pre-season). The difference is there seems to be something special happening here. I remember going to the game that would have put us in the playoffs if we won in 1989. There was probably less than 30,000 people at Arrowhead. It was so cold. The Chiefs had been losers since Len Dawson retired nearly 20 years before. Well people started coming to games the next year. Unlike Herm or Gunther, or any of the others, where I kind of said “Well, we’ll see” this has the feel to it of when Marty took over and made the Chiefs respectable again. It’s going to happen, just enjoy the ride!
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 28, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SD Chargers and Marion Butts?
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 28, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were there too?
I actually brought in Go Chicken Go, and had a buddy with a flask to stay warm!
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 28, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No not that one but similar games
The Warren Moon lights up Chiefs secondary. I was there.
The Rams kill us 6-0 in the heat. I was there.
The Ice storm game, free tickets. I was there.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 29, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You lost me at the Tony G "not so upset about it"...
and to say you were locked on T. Jackson from the jump, is nuts…Who know’s what any of the players will do? Better say you would “hope” things are what you thought after draft day… I still say it was a knee jerk reaction, in reflection of the boycott that other teams gave us. I dont know what happened behind the close doors, but just look at the trade for Sanchez and tell me if that wasnt acceptable for the #3 in need of a ton of help.
by Sea of RED on Jun 28, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't have wanted all of Mangini's pet projects :(
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 28, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also grew to like Tyson Jackson pre-draft day as we needed players for a 3-4
just check some history :)
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/3/29/814703/don-pioli-draft-day
A lot of us like Tyson just with some extra added
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 28, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In response..
Sea of RED, I’m not upset about the trade of Tony G for several reasons. Don’t get me wrong, Tony is the best TE in NFL history and its great that we’ve gotten to watch him catch pass after pass, score TD after TD, and even make key blocks in the running game. Hes a legend and its hard to let go. Im mad about what we got in return..I think we could have gotten more but in the end, Gonzo deserves a chance to advance in the playoffs. I dont care what people think about that. He put in all those years for us and we did nothing for him. Noone else on the roster stepped up and won us a game in the playoffs. Hes the BEST TE in HISTORY and hes never been close to a superbowl. All the records hes broke means nothing without a superbowl ring. Hes a team player. And yes, I was on T. Jackson from the start, but I wanted to trade down to maybe 8-10 maybe even 12 to get him. You draft by Need and Best Player Available and try to find a balance. They wanted to switch to the 3-4. We didnt have the personnel for that. Jackson is the perfect example of a prime 3-4 DE and to be teamed up with another player who he dominated in college with, it makes alot of sense for these guys to work together. Curry is not the next great linebacker. He was amazing his senior season..but what did he do before that? Noone had hardly heard of him. He was nothing special. 1 great season out of 4 years isnt enough for me to draft him with the #3 pick overall. Lets just hope Jackson doesnt bust either. There was no boycott dude..idk what youre talking about but youre reading too much into the situation. Its the #3 pick..nobody wants to trade up to pay that kind of money..doesnt happen often. And yes, none of us know what these guys are going to do, but I felt Tyson Jackson was a perfect fit especially with us trying to switch to the 3-4.
by Petey14 on Jun 28, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Amen brother. Tony G was great, I remember him blocking a punt as we kicked the crap out of the Super Bowl Champion 49ers, it was Tony’s rookie year. I think we won by 40 points. Tony got better and better as the years went by. The fact of the matter is that King Carl kept telling him, this year is our year every year, and just like us fans, it was heartache afer heartache. You could stick a fork in Tony here because he was done, at least we got a second round pick instead of nothing.
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 28, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TG absolutely the best!!
I don’t think he’ll get his ring where he’s at now either…but he definitely deserves one. Anyone that is that great, has earned it. He couldn’t pull us to the SB alone. How many times did he go to the ProBowl? 9 times? Yeah, he needs a ring before he retires. I will miss him in KC though…..without a doubt. Although I did divorce him in my fantasies since he left the Chiefs….but that’s another story ;)
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Jul 6, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
I can’t see us losing to the Redskins, or the Cowboys at home, but let’s say we lose one of those and if we are at 9-6 playing the Donkeys, who should be just looking for the season to be over at that point, 10-6 is not out of question. That should win the Division this year.
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 28, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with CPA913...
Can’t see us losing to the Foreskins or the Cowturds at home. I think this is the year that we recapture the Arrowhead experience. This is our year to re-instill the fear into opposing teams coming into our stadium. Also, don’t agree with your reasoning behind the jettison of Tony G. You claim that he would have never won a Super Bowl with Kansas City, but I beg to differ. Yes, I am giddy about this year but I firmly believe we would be a helluva lot better off with him than without him. Either way, adios muchacho to Tony, we’ll go to the Big Dance without you. I said it, cry two tears in a bucket, fuck it, let’s take it to the stage…
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Jun 29, 2009 12:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Post
Great line:
“…and if all else fails, Tin Foil Croyle is ready to get injured again.”
LOL. Yes, he is, in his own strange way, very consistent.
by LarryDoggyDog on Jul 4, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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