Chargers' Cromartie Trashing the Chiefs
by Joel Thorman on Jun 27, 2009 6:12 PM CDT
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Defensive back Antonio Cromartie is already trashing the Kansas City Chiefs, their passing game and Dwayne Bowe. Cromartie of course predicts his San Diego Chargers will be making an appearance in the Super Bowl....if they play up to their ability.
Only problem? The Chargers seem to never play up to their ability when it counts. They've had what many people call the most talented team in the NFL for several years now and haven't won a conference championship game since 1994 when the San Francisco 49ers throttled them 49-26.
Anyway, Cromartie held a chat on NFL.com and had a few things to say about the Chiefs.
When asked about stopping the Chiefs passing game with Matt Cassel now in the division, Cromartie said:
They never had a passing game. They don't even have Gonzalez.
Then when being asked about what's so hard about covering Bowe:
Dwayne Bowe only has two catches on me in two years, so I've never had a hard time against him.
Yep...that's the corner for the Chargers team that "stomped" the lowly 2-14 Chiefs by a combined two points last season. And, for the record, our Coastal Carolina quarterback put up 263 yards passing against Cromartie's Chargers.
Cromartie also said Philip Rivers was the biggest trash talker on the team. Uh-oh, I hope the cat wasn't let out of the bag with that one or Philip will get mad and pout! Hmph!
If I were a betting man, I would put my money on the Chargers to win the AFC West this season. After all, they are the kings of the regular season.
For the record, Dwayne Bowe has 25 receptions for 325 yards and two touchdowns against the Chargers in his first two years in the league. Nice work, Antonio. Your interception rate in 2008 would have tied you with our two rookies, Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr for second place on the team.
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"Only problem? The Chargers seem to never play up to their ability when it counts."
and Cromartie is the poster child for this. Maybe he should worry more about his horrible play of last year and less on the guy who will put up 90-100 yards on him twice this year.
by GenericBrand on Jun 27, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even Charger fans know
that he got lucky about 8 times in 07 with those INT’s. A few of my friends are big time charger fans and they even say that he was just always lucky with those. I think Cromartie is overrated and now i think he’s overrated and has his head up his ass. I think he’s trash talking because he knows that he almost lost, TWICE, to a 2-14 team and he knows that we are better this year. If Bowe hears about this, i bet you he will just laugh and say “OK” because he’s not a crybaby dipshit like Cromartie or Rivers….Love that pic by the way of Mr. Pout Pout
by Wrestler189s on Jun 27, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was probably because...
According to Cromartie he can run a 4.19 40. It’s funny because if that were even close to true he would be a Raider wouldnt he be?
by GenericBrand on Jun 28, 2009 4:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great line
Supposedly he can run the 40 in 4.19, but he came out of college after a year of being injured. He wasn’t 100% healthy until after his rookie season.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Jun 28, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still not...............
100% healthy, and from what i get out of he interview, is he will never be 100%.
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 28, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But last year he was probably playing at about 50%. He had no acceleration and no speed, which are his two best assets. The injured year probably helped him develop into a better corner because he had to learn how to play slow and intelligently. It led to less interceptions, but he didn’t get burned by anyone except Brandon Marshall I believe.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Jun 29, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blahh... is all I hear from Cromartie
Season is still far away and that just gives Bowe something to think about and pump him up for playing against him …I predict that Bowe will own him this season
by tomahawk44 on Jun 27, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
...( . )( . )...(___/{i}\___) ...(____X____)......oh and football....
by GanjaChief on Jun 27, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last week it was Ohnostinko calling Merriman out and wanting to box him.
In that exchange he also tried smacking on “gonna eat crow” Cromartie. D-Bowe I think is more above that and will prove it on the field.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 27, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Antonio Cromartie is one of the most overrated corners in the game today. I’ve seen him have good games here and there, but cripes, people act like he’s Champ Bailey or something.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 27, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and Champ Bailey isn't really that impressive anymore.
Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals
by averagegatsby on Jun 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"good games here and there"
You’re wrong there. Cromartie was terrible in 2008 and magnificent in 2007. At the end of the last season it was revealed that he had played the entire season with a broken hip, so Chargers fans are hoping that was the reason for the drop-off. If he’s healthy and can return to 2007 form he’s one of the 3 best CBs in the league.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Jun 27, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read your work
good stuff Kudos
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 27, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
magnificent in 2007?
Hardly. The guy was “lucky” in the same way that any corner who has a breakout season is. With balls being tipped his way, passes being way over thrown, etc… But at no point was he a shut down corner. Even during 2007, he was never consistent. He’ll always have a lot of penalties, and he’ll always allow a lot of catches on his side of the field. Even if he’s getting 10 ints a year that will be true.
And maybe Bowe only caught 2 passes against him because Bowe only lined up against him a hand full of times?
by JayrodT on Jun 28, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That could be true
about Bowe only being lined up on him a handful of times, I don’t know for sure.
However, Antonio Cromartie was not lucky in 2007. Well, okay, that’s not true. He was lucky on his returns that turned into scores, but his play on the field and his interceptions had nothing to do with luck. 3/4 of them came as a result of QBs underestimating his speed and leaping ability. Hell, he caught 3/4 of those interceptions while diving for them. He didn’t catch a single tipped ball (but Clinton Hart caught a few, inflating his numbers) and I believe only caught one overthrown ball where the receiver gave up and Cro kept running and got it.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Jun 29, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is coming from the same guy who guaranteed
atleast 15 interceptions last year and he didn’t even get close.
by ChiefsFanInTexas on Jun 27, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I for one like it...
AFC west rivalries seem kinda dead right now. I like things to be stirred up a bit. God awful pic of rivers BTW
by paxi on Jun 27, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this site and all the work you do Primetime BUT
how many times are you going to say that the Chargers are going to win the west or that they are the best in the west? Let us at least have some hope for the Chiefs, may or may not happen but we at least need to have hope after what we have been through the last two seasons.
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 27, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because its fact that it's there division to lose.
Games are still played every Sunday but ultimately in order to win the division we will have to be better then the Chargers and the same can’t be said about the Broncos or Raiders.
by GenericBrand on Jun 27, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Donkeys would have been in the playoffs
Not the bolts, if D-Bowe didn’t hand it to them on a silver platter and if Darren Sproles didn’t carry them into the playoffs. KC was the better team on the short end TWICE last year – Great coaching Herm! Other than Merriman, (when he’s not suspended for roids or injured) can someone explain to me where exactly the better talent is on the Bolts? Junior Seau was so much better for that team. They haven’t been great since Dan Fouts was their QB.
It always used to be a sea of red going to games at the Murph – I still can’t call it Qualcomm. I have a feeling it will be again within a couple of years. The bolts have gotten worse and worse every year since the brilliant decision to replace Marty.
Rivers, OK slight edge over Cassel (for now); Gates, big edge if your counting on a pass catching TE, KC obviously is not, so for our scheme, Cottam has a big edge as a blocker. I’m just not seeing it. This Division is up for grabs and the Bolts have done very little to improve this year.
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The biggest thing they've done this year is get healthy.
The fact that we came close to beating them twice last year is the exact reason as to why the games have to be played every Sunday because you’re right we and other teams are capable of winning. There’s alot of “ifs” every year but the fact is they have been the best team in the division as of late and in order for us to get there we have to be better then the Chargers plain and simple because if we finish better then the Chargers this year we’re likely division champs. I don’t think its Primes intention(dont want to put words into anyones mouth) to put San Diego on some unattainable pedestal but just merely to state that the Chargers have been the best team and the team to beat as of late.
by GenericBrand on Jun 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why doesn't everyone just admit that without Marty
San Diego sucks. They have gotten a little bit worse every year without Schottenheimer (kind of like the Chiefs except for the Dick Vermeil years). I mean some lucky breaks and Sproles playing his ass off still wouldn’t have mattered if not for a TOTAL Broncos implosion last year. Unless the Raiders grow a brain or DeMarcus gets injured, this Division is ripe for the picking.
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 28, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with Marty
the Chargers never won a playoff game. Now in back-to-back seasons we’ve won at least one. Last year’s record had mostly to do with a lack of pass-rush and an overmatched defensive coordinator than whether or not we missed Marty.
For the record, Marty was a terrible gameday coach. He could pump his team up and picked good coordinators (Cam Cameron and Wade Philips), but he had no idea how to work timeouts, challenges or anything of the like. That’s why he lost so frequently in January. Norv isn’t exactly Parcells, but he’s a step ahead of Marty.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Jun 29, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with primetime’s approach because it feels more realistic at this point in the year. Even if you don’t think the Bolts are a good team, they are still the BEST team in the AFC West. We can’t critique our huge changes for the Chiefs yet until we see more real action. This goes for the changes in Denver and the additions for Oakland. The Bolts as GenericBrand points out, are now healthier with a handful of proven athletes already on their team.
by worc on Jun 27, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW didn't know my little comment would make people stand up for the Chargers
This is a Chiefs site right? I won’t concede the Division till they show me they are the better team on the field, They didn’t do that last year. An 8-8 team is not a great team especially when two of those wins come from a team that was coached by Herm. You know how he loved to give other teams every chance to beat us.
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Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 27, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said it doesn’t matter if they aren’t a great team. The whole AFC West stunk period. Sure Chiefs had their number last year on two games, but in the end, the Chargers won. Yes, this is a Chiefs site, but it doesn’t mean we can’t think rationally when evaluating another team or the Chiefs.
by worc on Jun 28, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying to stand up for the Chargers BUT
They are the best until proven otherwise.
Of course, I want and hope the Chiefs will win the West this year, but from a realistic stand point we may be a year away.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 28, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Calling them “kings of the regular season” is supposed to be a shot at them :)
by Joel Thorman on Jun 28, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the classy team always wins
let this bitch talk. Bowe and co. will beat his ass come gameday.
by SayHeyWerd on Jun 27, 2009 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The best team will win...
First and foremost the Chargers will kick the Quiefs A$$!!! Plain and simple. Just remember Cassel (System Quarterback) doesn’t have Moss and Co. and the O-line the Cheatriots have so you know where the Quiefs record will be. They are 2-14 for a reason…can’t blame OG water wanting to leave and L Johnson looking to leave too. The Quiefs will be where they were last year…picking third in the draft…AGAIN. GO Quiefs!!!
KC Quiefs are the Joakland Gayders of the South…
by KC Quiefs on Jun 28, 2009 12:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Chiefs have improved....
The Quiefs have moved from beeing ranked 30th in 08 to 29th in 09…WOW big improvement…..can’t wait for the season to start…..no wonder Gonzo…or should I say Gone Zo wanted to leave….it just sucks an elite TE stuck on a sorry a$$ team…
by KC Quiefs on Jun 28, 2009 12:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see a 2-14 season coming for this year...
Only two wins will be against the Gayders
by KC Quiefs on Jun 28, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Oh yeah……….. well they wont let your mom wear a X jacket because they dont want helicopters trying to land on her fat a$$
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 28, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
You are pretty cool coming onto another website and talking shit. Props to you bud
by Wrestler189s on Jun 28, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad ........
Everyone is underestimating the Chiefs this year. Everyone talkin shit only adds fuel to the fire!
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 28, 2009 12:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My favorite moments from the NFL chat with Cromartie....
1) Andy , San Diego: Are you 100% from you Hip injury last year?
Antonio Cromartie: I’m 90 percent, that’s the closest I’m going to get from 100 percent.
Huh?
2) Part 1- Brenton, Texas: Do you think a Marshall trade would make your job easier?
Antonio Cromartie: My job is already easy, to tell you the truth. It’s really not hard to do, even if he didn’t get traded.
A little cocky but ok at least its a coherent english sentence.
Part 2- Andy , San Diego: Who’s the toughest WR to cover in the league now?
Antonio Cromartie: I would say Brandon Marshall, because of his size and speed.
Wait….whaa?…
3. anthony j, miami: ciara, beyonce or keri hilson or keisha cole who would you take on a date?
Antonio Cromartie: None, they are too uppity.
I can see that. I mean, he doesn’t want that uppityness weighing down his humble, down to earth, persona that he’s worked so hard to build.
by GenericBrand on Jun 28, 2009 4:08 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
thats hilarious
And it adds so much more credibility to what he says. Now i’m REALLY scared.
You are not what you think you are, but WHAT you think, you ARE.
by Zodeman on Jun 28, 2009 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
man he's a douche
good quotes Generic
I don't have a girlfriend. I just know a lady who would be really mad if she heard me say that. -Mitch Hedberg
by mistamic on Jun 28, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Norv goes fishing!
The Chargers are perhaps the worst “dominant” team in league history … maybe some AFC East teams in the 80’s … but still. Rivers goddamn float passes would be lost LOST without LDT to throw every team off balance. If Merriman’s effective that could be a problem.
All the same, we fully expect Norv to continue to fuck up Marty Shottenheimer’s hard work.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jun 28, 2009 7:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael lombardi is always saying
how the cowboys will only regress the farther they get away from the Parcells regime. I think the same can be true for Norv Turner and his Chargers.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
by jobe on Jun 28, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No class
Before you build yourself up, you must tear somebody else down.
by Zennedy on Jun 28, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh?
I can’t believe Chiefs fans, of all people, really think that ol’ “play not to lose” Marty Schottenheimer is something special. Good guy, good motivational speaker, good regular season coach, good at turning a team around, the absolute worst (with years of statistics to prove it) when it really matters. Norv Turner is no Vince Lombardi, to be sure, and he has some of the worst, most uninspiring body language in sports, but he is undefeated in December and he actually wins playoff games even without guys who are not only the best players on the team but the best players in the league at their positions (i.e. Merriman, LDT, Jamal Williams, Gates). How many more times do you need to see the guy lose a playoff game the same exact way before you realize that’s just what he does? I’ve seen enough and i thought you guys had, too…
As a Charger fan, and as a human, I guess, I find Cromartie to be embarrassing but i’m not sure how you call 10 picks (one of them being the most spectacular INT I have ever seen) lucky. Lucky is a Herm Edwards team getting even 2 wins…
Rivers “lobbed” the most TDs in the NFL and “lobbed” his way to the best passer rating in the NFL. He has an ugly delivery but he gets it done and you would love to have him on your team. And after watching how things unfolded in Denver this off-season it is now obvious that he was just on to Cutler way before the rest of us were…
Good luck vs. the Donkos and the Laughingstocks
by Rocket Surgery on Jun 29, 2009 3:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
well said
Marty is still a fave around these parts because he brought us out of years and years of hopelessness and frustration. We were on the cusp of going all the way. While he got beat in the playoffs constantly, there are lots of coaches in all sports who come close a lot of times before they get over the hump. There are a lot more who never even come close.
I lived in Dallas during the Cowboys rise with Jimmy Johnson, and I have to say I think Norv is one of the very top Offensive Coordinators in the league. But I just don’t think he will ever be a top level head coach
The Chargers definitely have some serious talent, and have proven over the last few years to be a contender. But as bad as we were last year I don’t recall us getting whooped up on by the Chargers. I’m looking for a sweep this year….and not the kind Bolts fans will enjoy!
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
by Zodeman on Jun 29, 2009 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not 2006 anymore
but he is undefeated in December and he actually wins playoff games even without guys who are not only the best players on the team but the best players in the league at their positions (i.e. Merriman, LDT, Jamal Williams, Gates).
LDT is no longer the best RB in league – that spot goes to Adrian Peterson until someone unseats him
Gates has never been the best TE in the league.
Without steroids, it remains to be seen whether Merriman is the best 3-4 OLB in the league.
But hey, 1 out of 4 ain’t bad – Williams is arguably the best NT in the league.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 29, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Myth
Shawne Merriman never tested positive for steroids. His case is similar to the diet pills thing going on with Minnesota’s defensive linemen. He took a supplement that was on NFL’s approved list, but apparently that supplement company did not reveal everything in it and his test came up dirty because of it. This has been proven.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Jun 29, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ladainian is on a very short list of the best RBs of all-time so as long as he is still suiting up he owns that spot until he retires. AP is a fine player but he hasn’t even sniffed what 21 has accomplished in this league; he doesn’t catch the ball, he doesn’t throw the ball, missed more games his rookie year than LDT has in his entire career, has already lost more fumbles in his two years of playing than LDT has in his entire career and was outscored by the one-legged RB last year.
Gates and Gonzalez are interchangeable at 1 and 1A and I think you are going to find out real soon where Merriman is at. And I know you Priest Holmes fans know where he was at before he got hurt.
Nevertheless, I like what you’re team has done this off-season and I think KC is going to be real competitive real soon and I look forward to the ensuing battles.
Also, every year I try to go to one Charger road game and I’m thinking it’s time to check out Arrowhead this year. I’m curious to hear what Chiefs have to say about that.
by Rocket Surgery on Jun 29, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
L.T wouldnt make it in my top 20 on RB’s neither would L.J. Gates couldn’t hold T.Gonzalez’s jock strap, look how many years T.G has been the best TE in the NFL . S.Sharpe is the second best, and your boy Gates might make the top 10.
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 30, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this make sense to anyone else?
“and haven’t won a conference championship game since 1994 when the San Francisco 49ers throttled them 49-26.”
by huskersnchiefs on Jun 29, 2009 7:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
…as long as the Chiefs suck they just have to take it until they play them at least. Chargers need to worry about ’roids and choking.
by FrankPitts on Jun 29, 2009 7:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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