Previewing the Kansas City Chiefs 2009 Schedule: Week 3
It's Week Three in the 2009 schedule that represents a key moment for both teams involved in the Chiefs and Eagles match-up. For the Eagles, the following week brings an early bye in the season and, afterwards, begins the much harder part of the schedule. The first three games against the Panthers, Saints and Chiefs are all winnable games and going 3-0 makes it much easier to withstand the rest of the season. For the Chiefs, the upcoming stretch is brutal, to say the least. At Philly. NY Giants and Dallas at home. At San Diego. To be optimistic is to say the Chiefs can go 2-2 in that stretch and to be realistic bumps it back a bit to a probable 1-3.
So what sort of a chance will the Chiefs have of winning this game? Some of the factors in play were above my pay grade, so we went to the uber-helpful JasonB, who runs the fine operation over at Bleeding Green Nation. He answered some key questions for us concerning the Chiefs-Eagles match-up:
What is Andy Reid's tendency with younger skill position players to get them up and going? It seems DeSean Jackson had a nice year, so how much should we expect Jeremy Maclin and LeSean McCoy to be a part of things?
This is a question that I'd be far more prepared to answer after the preseason. A big reason DeSean Jackson played so much last year is that he had such a great preseason. As far as tendencies Reid has shown, basically he'll play guys that earn the time. So if Maclin and McCoy impress in preseason, I suspect you should see plenty of them (esp. Maclin). It's hard to say now.
How is the team feeling about Brian Westbrook's status?
Going by what they say, they feel good about it. They expect him to be 100% by the start of the season. Personally, I'm a bit more skeptical. Any time a guy has surgery in the offseason that will keep him out of a lot of the offseason program, that's a cause for concern. That said, I am happy that Westbrook did have the surgery this offseason. Knee and ankle injuries nagged at him all last year and really limited his effectiveness, so I'm glad that he finally got things cleaned out and fixed. I am optimistic about him being 100% this year, I just think it might take a couple weeks.
What about the health of Jim Johnson? Everything I'm reading uses the word "indefinite," so I'm wondering between Johnson being out and Dawkins' departure if the defense will be ready to go?
There's not many reports about just how Jim Johnson is doing, but it certainly doesn't sound good. I'll refer you to an article I wrote a few weeks ago about the subject.
If Jim didn't return that would be a big loss but I have a lot of confidence in his understudy, Sean McDermott. He was widely rumored to be a candidate for a number of HC & DC jobs around the league this offseason and the Eagles denied other teams' permission to speak with him. He's a younger guy that's worked under Jim Johnson for the past decade and has coached virtually every position on the defense. Plus, if you look at the success of former Jim Johnson proteges there's good reason to believe McDermott can fill his mentor's shoes. Steve Spagnuolo, Ron Rivera, Leslie Frazer, and Jim Harbaugh have all gone on to head coaching jobs, Super Bowls, top defenses, and have all had a lot of success after leaving the Eagles defensive system.
Thanks to JasonB for taking the time to answer our questions. With that said, it seems this how we can expect things to play out:
How The Eagles Can WinIt's simple. Play up to their talent level. On paper, the Eagles are perhaps the best team in the NFL. With an already solid core in place, the Eagles added fantastic rookies like Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy and Courtney Ingram to go alongside major veteran additions like Jason Peters, Ellis Hobbs, Sean Jones, and Stacy Andrews. Again this is on paper, but it seems, at least, that the Eagles shored up any major shortcomings they have with a fine, fine off-season.
Last year, the Eagles ranked 6th in Points Scored in the NFL and 4th in Points Allowed and that's without the newly bolstered offensive line, speedy additions at the major skill positions and the continued maturation of DeSean Jackson, who almost had 1,000 receiving yards in his first season. Donovan McNabb showed he was able to stay healthy for a full year and should be in full command once again at this point in the Eagles schedule.
Defensively, the Eagles are just as impressive. Mostly it's Jim Johnson's blitzing schemes that receive the credit, but there's plenty of talent here as well with Trent Cole and Darren Howard rushing the passer. And while Brian Dawkins will definitely be missed in the defensive backfield, he was 35 and allowed to walk for a reason. Asante Samuel and Quintin Mikell are still in place to lead there and the linebackers should be fine between such talented units.
The Eagles match up quite well against Kansas City's primary attack. Philly's strongest point is their defensive line with impressive depth and talent at each position. Broderick Bunkley, Mike Patterson, Cole and Juqua Thomas all know these schemes by heart and a deep rotation ensures that Philly will rarely lose the battle in the trenches. Larry Johnson will definitely have his work cut out for him, although Jamaal Charles might have some success if he can break through to the second level.
Without Tony Gonzalez to break things up in the middle, it seems Samuel should be just fine covering Dwayne Bowe on his own. In fact, it's in a game like this that the Chiefs will be missing the future Hall of Famer the most. Matt Cassel had a penchant for taking a sack too much last season and Philly's schemes and d-line will only make it that much harder. Without a competent TE to catch the quick pass, Cassel might have a rough day. Thus, it's vital for Charles to get some key touches in this contest.
How The Chiefs Can Win
Get lucky. That's the first and primary way. Some other things could also fall into place that we just can't know at this stage of the season.
For example, Brian Westbrook's health is the ultimate question facing the Eagles at this point on the offensive side of the ball. If he's unable to produce at a high level and provide the typical Westbrook threat, the Eagles have proven themselves vulnerable to a defense that can hold its own.
The Eagles have never been known for their outstanding receivers (sans T.O.'s time with the team), but the Eagles hope their new additions in skill players Jeremy Maclin and LeSean McCoy both make up for the lack of a dynamite receiver and Westbrook's health. Then again, at only Week Three, can those players be up to speed enough to make a true impact? That's a variable we just can't know at this point.
On the defensive side, much was made about the exit of team leader and playmaker Brian Dawkins. Sean Jones has many feeling good about his on-field replacement, but ask any Eagles player and they will tell you that the locker room took a hit with Dawkins leaving. It's possible the Eagles will still be finding themselves defensively this early in the season. Also, another interesting note: Jim Johnson's, the Eagles defensive coordinator and blitzing wizard, is on an indefinite leave of absence for cancer treatment, leaving more room for possible disillusionment on that side of the ball.
Perhaps the best thing the Chiefs have going for them is found in their head coach, Todd Haley. After all, it was his offensive schemes (and the head coaching job of Ken Whisenhunt) that thwarted the Eagles attack plan in the NFC conference championship and put up 32 points to take the underdog Cardinals to the Super Bowl.
The Verdict
One look at the Chief's chances tell it all - since really this game should be more about the Eagles beating themselves should the Chiefs win. Still this game comes to down one issue: pure talent. The Eagles have been at or near the top in most seasons in Andy Reid's 10-year tenure with the team with a 97-62-1 career record. They've accomplished this largely with an impeccable draft record and solid coaching. One look at this year's draft haul produces names like Maclin and McCoy and you realize they can afford the best player available to them.
For the Chiefs, they're just beginning to turn this ship around. It's a great road ahead for them with the perfect people in place to steer things, but the work will be hard and talent simply takes time to acquire. Perhaps the Chiefs can catch lightning in a bottle and take one from Philly on the road. Anything's possible in the NFL. But in making predictions like this, the talent disparity between the teams is simply too much.
Prediction:
Eagles 24, Chiefs 10
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Yeppers...Toughest game on the schedule other than maybe Pittsburgh.
I’m going to be a Homer and say it will be closer though.
Prediction: 17-14 Philly
Maybe our defense will step up and keep it close.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn it's hard to concede games before training camp but....
you’re probably right connerman, this will be a tough one for us.
P.S. Nice write up
P.P.S. You have way too much time on your hands!
by chicks_love_chiefs on Jun 25, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another excellent write-up
And I just hate having to agree with it. I guess we all better buy rabbit’s feet and horse shoes before this game and maybe the luck will come in.
by Zodeman on Jun 25, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any East Coast AP hommies want to go to this game?
I’ll be in town for a Saturday night bachelor party in AC and will be going to this game Sunday. Looking your way DTR.
How many US Open runner ups have you blazed with? Way to go, Ricky Barnes.
by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I bought my tickets yesterday. 25 yrd line, fifth row
I can’t friggin wait. Flyin out there from L.A.
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
by Sudden on Jun 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shoot me an email at my alter ego's address...
I’ll be out in the Bay for the Cal Arizona game and Chiefs Raiders game. My bro is a Cal alum but my Wildcats are spoiling the party this year.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be praying for you
If you do not escape Oakland, I want to let you know we’ve appreciated all your blogging over the years.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those Oaktown fans are a bunch of phonies...
I’ve been to a Warriors game where literally the guy I was with was drunken screaming “Suck my dick Warriors.” Yes I was embarrassed to be with him but I never even once felt threatened. I’ll be wearing the red proud.
Got to admit, there is not a better weekend then seeing your college team on Saturday and your pro team Sunday. Football glory.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
9ers fans always had my back
But I was out there when the QB of the Kansas City Chiefs was Joe Montana – it was awesome!
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without Westbrook this game will be closer.
Even if Westbrook is 100% by regular season theres a huge difference between 100% and game shape and without any preseason games and only one regular season game its probably safe to say that even if he’s in he’ll be rusty and not in game shape. Disadvantage(as if we neeeded more going into this game) is the 2 weeks of preperations and alterations they get to make after they play their first game. I still say we likely lose this game but I dont think itll be a 14 point game.
by GenericBrand on Jun 25, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm Not Sure About Westbrook This Year
Ankle surgery and knee surgery for a guy coming off a bad year and he’s 30 and injury-prone. That’s a recipe for a career-worst season.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
by UCrawford on Jun 25, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.........
Westbrook is a great RB ………………….but i get the feeling that this is the year he starts to fade alittle.For the last 2 years ive had him on my Fantasy Football team. I dont think he does as well this year,but the man is a force when it comes to red zone points. I think this game will be closer than most of you think and we might even win. Getting them this earily in the season, before they get going will only benefit us in this game. IMO we win this game 17-14
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 25, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will be a rough game.
But win or lose I will be happy if we can just hold our own.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 25, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Philly will be tough this year
They have so many weapons on offense now, adding Maclin, McCoy and Ingram. If those three get off to a good start, this may be the team to beat in the NFC this year.
A tough test for KC, and I agree, a likely loss.
It will be good to see how the new team stacks up to an experienced and winning team like the Eagles.
by stagdsp on Jun 25, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe
When we step on the football field this year we will shake the football world. I am seeing you guys have got us at 1-2 and that is not what’s goona happen IMO. We are a new football team even the players returning will be better and I agree w/ this one the eagles are my second favorite team and always a tough team but I say it’s close 24-21 and as far as the Ravens I say we will come out fierce and destroy the ravens front line w/ so many blitz packages it spins Flacco’s head and even though we can’t score alot we walk out of there 17-10 victory
by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big advantage for us in the ravens game is....
They don’t have any tape to watch on us. We know that if we can stop their run game and force Flacco to throw into our secondary, we have a great chance to win that game. Offensively, we will have to keep them off balance with lots of two back sets, throwing out of the backfield, screens, etc. We will need to make sure they are guessing on every down.
I think we will win the Ravens game. I think we match up pretty well. I know this sounds wierd but, for some reason I am more concerned about the Raiders…
Nahhh I’m just bullshittin, we are gonna destroy the Raiders!!!!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 25, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Haley will likely try to disguise his plans in preseason, BUT
he will also want to WIN in preseason, to set the proper tone for this team. So there will be SOME useful tape on the #1s.
by hmills110 on Jun 25, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I think this year, more than any other, we’ll see the #1/2s playing a lot more. There are a lot of changes both offensively and defensively so the competition will be real this time.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 25, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree with
Genericbrand and Ucrawford…
Without Westbrook the offense will be hurt for the Eagles. Who knows, maybe Maclin won’t be as big of an impact as most people think he will. We do have 2 good Corners in Carr and Flowers and they showed last year that even they can hang with Randy Moss. And since we have Todd Haley on our side, he will know how to and what to pull in order for us to win this game. I say it will be a close one, 24-21/OT Chiefs.
by Wrestler189s on Jun 25, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Maclin won't be an immediate impact...
but DeSean is about to blow up.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flowers should be able to handle Maclin.
He covered him in practice everyday in college.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 25, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
??? Flowers went to Mizzu or Maclin went to V Tech?
Who’s going to stop DeSean? Too damn nasty.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flowers went
to V Tech, and Maclin went to Mizzouri didn’t he?
Maybe Brown will give DeSean a real NFL welcome by layin him out.
by Wrestler189s on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's a game but..
I used the Eagles every game on madden 09’ and they are magic Westbrook,Curtis,DeSean,Mcnabb that’s alot of speed on the field+ their D-Line is amazing I loved Dawkins back there but they will be fine w/o him. I call Curtis white lightning because he is the fastest whiteboy alive
THAT'S GOOD FOR A KANSAS CITY CHIEFS "FIRST DOWN"
by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know it's a game but...
I use Tampa all the time in Tecmo and they are magic. Vinny makes Montana look like Brodie.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's a game but..
madden 09 on ps3 is a little bit more accurate than tecmo bowl 1990 lol
THAT'S GOOD FOR A KANSAS CITY CHIEFS "FIRST DOWN"
by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So you're trying to tell me...
that 95 yard Bo Jackson zig zag TD runs aren’t accurate?
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
THAT'S GOOD FOR A KANSAS CITY CHIEFS "FIRST DOWN"
by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember john elway's quarterback club
i loved that game so much I have to play it now that you said tecmo
THAT'S GOOD FOR A KANSAS CITY CHIEFS "FIRST DOWN"
by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Best watch that mouth ;)
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK trent green's quarterback club?
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by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just played
denver 35 Giants 7 but why can you only pick like 6 teams? any way elway threw for like 650 yards and yes zig-zagging still works wonderfully
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by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking Tecmo Super Bowl
no one plays that bogus origional Tecmo bullshit.
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by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 25, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
that new 1992 shit yeah
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by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"That's not my yard" McNabb
Couldn’t put up 35 points against last years Chiefs D, throwing to Jerry Rice, T.O. and Tony G. Now that’s some trash talk right there, I tell you what, I don’t care who you are.
Philly has a great D, and should be highly favored at home, but give me a freakin break, you really think Vrabel, Zack, DJ, Pollard, Page, Flowers, Carr, and now Mike Brown, are going to get lit up like that?
As a homer I say Chiefs pull an upset as I scream “look at that little Leggit go” on a last minute pick 6, as a realist, Phillly 20, KC 18 (of course I have to assume Cassel has a bad day to only score 18)
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jun 25, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’ll go w/ cpa we lose by close and I mean close or not at all
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by I_AM_NINJA_2 on Jun 26, 2009 12:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know I said 24 to 10...
But I honestly could see this moving to an “even worse” territory and look like the drubbing we took in Carolina last year: 34 – 0. This Eagles team is just going to be so intense…
by Matt Conner on Jun 26, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on the thought
The Chiefs are going to be keying on BEAT Ravens and then the Raiders.
Hopefully at 2-0, they are going to be a little beat up and on the road against the Elite of the NFC.
Hope they play well usually doesn’t get it and probably not here either. 2-1 after three Ain’t bad.
some Meatloaf anyone?
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 27, 2009 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how the Chiefs can win:
Eagles don’t take their opponent seriously. This happens often in every sport, the better team comes out flat because they expect to win easily.
The Chiefs on the other hand will be playing all-out for a number of reasons. First of all, everyone is fighting for a job. Second, they know that there is a lot to be afraid of when facing a team like the Eagles.
If the Chiefs can make some big plays early, they can hope their secondary keeps the Eagles at bay in a comeback effort.
by benfunke on Jun 26, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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