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Will The Chiefs Ever Make the Big Acquisition?

The big free agent splash. Every fan in every city of all 32 NFL franchises holds their breath for their GM to be the one to strike while the iron is hot. When a linebacker like Ray Lewis or Bart Scott hits the open market, every team pictures the star in their team colors and a uniform being held up during the glorious press conference. Then, when one team is declared the winner, the rest of us sulk back and hope we're not left without when the curtain falls.

Rinse, repeat.

It's the same thing every year. And it's a mad scramble that the same few teams seem to "win" each season. The Redskins always seem to walk away with a prized possession or two (even if it doesn't lead to anything good). The Jets, under GM Mike Tannenbaum, have demonstrated the ability to step up and grab their target each of the last two off-seasons. Al Davis & Co. always unfold their wallets for "top-shelf" acquisitions like Javon Walker, Derrick Burgess, etc. And of course, while a lot of this movement doesn't mean anything in the final standings, it can still be a bit frustrating to watch your team do absolutely nothing when the needs are so obvious and such players are available.

So what is the right time for a team to strike for that big free agent? When Randy Moss became available for a mid-round pick, it was the Patriots - those beloved storers of draft choices - who pounced at the perfect time. How did they know when to go for it, when the very team they plucked him from thought they were getting their own prize upon acquiring him?

When will it be time for the Chiefs to shore up their receiving corps by playing the right cards to grab an Anquan Boldin or sign a Plaxico Burress? How much cap room do we need sitting around before we pony up for an Albert Haynesworth and shock the football world? Is there a balance in first having enough of a foundation laid before you take that on, or should we grab the big guns early and accelerate the rebuilding process?

We'd love to hear your thoughts on the Chiefs and their ability or inability to grab the high-profile, high-talent acquisition. When is the right time in the life of a franchise to do so? And do you think the Chiefs should have already been active in this facet of the off-season?

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Id love to see Boldin

in Chiefs red. But at what cost? I wouldnt be willing to trade off any of our valuable draft picks unless by some miracle we could send off one of our seconds next year. Seeing how that isnt going to happen that leaves us with Plax. While the guy might be a stud on the field, its all his off field problems that concern me. Is he going to be suspended? Is he going to show up and buy into what Haley is trying to do here? I can’t answer those questions but Id have to guess no. He hasn’t been a team player anywhere he has been.
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t looks to me as if we are stuck for better or worse with the current crop of recievers that we have. Id be shocked if Piolie and co. made a run at either of these two. Lets hope Haley can get our guys to over achieve.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Jun 24, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Depends on what kind of team you want to be...

In NO way, shape or form do I want to see the Chiefs be a team run like the Raiders or Redskins.

I just replied to the post about the Mike Brown signing that the Patriots have a way of stocking their team with solid veterans, even when it looks like they are set.

I think the Chiefs are starting to build the franchise in that image… not chasing the #1 free agent out there, but making strategic acquisitions of solid veterans to compliment the core of the team built through the draft.

I don’t see them chasing the Haynsworths of the world, but the Vrabel, ZT, Engram and Mike Brown acquisitions are the type we’ll see going forward.

I for one, am very happy with that strategy. I’d take a Boldin or someone like that, but only if the price was right. Otherwise, build through the draft, and pick up some strategic veteran leadership when they are available without breaking the bank.

by stagdsp on Jun 24, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think...

a “big” free agent signing or trade is good if its something that pushes you over the hump but not so much for something to build around(QB may be the exception). Theres no point bring in a 9-15M $ man in if we have too many unknowns or holes at other positions.

by GenericBrand on Jun 24, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think that's changing

The new leadership, and new system… hopefully a new culture of winning….
these things should help make it more desirable

by stagdsp on Jun 24, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also it usually comes down to 2 things...

1) Winning – The older guys that already have their dollars might sign for the chance to win it all (TG)
2) Money – Younger players after their rookie contract think they need to hit the lottery.

by Helmets on Jun 24, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that the getting back to basics approach

is probably best for us. Pioli seems to be building a new foundation after the last contractor came in and did a job that wasn’t up to code.

After the new foundation is built and a good frame put together then I think then we can start concentrating on getting the bells and whistles if we want.

Buyers seem to gravitate more toward a well built house, than something quickly thrown together.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 24, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like our appraoch

better than selling out like Washington and overpaying for underperforming players. I would still like to see one more offensive weapon added for Cassell to throw to.

by TonyG88 on Jun 24, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Patience Grasshopper

I think you need the patience to wait and see when that big time free-agent pops up on the market! You have to remember we have the most sought after GM in the buisness, he didnt build those teams with just luck. This guy knows what the hell he is doing, and when the time comes to make a Randy Moss type of move he will pull the trigger for sure! Just think wouldnt it be nice for three championships to come here! So everybody just have a little patience grasshoppers

by cliffy188 on Jun 24, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Patience Grasshopper

Choke yourself not while masturbating. Aww poor David Carradine.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Jun 24, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on thate note.

Is it confirmed thats what happened? Its very sad and funny at the same time.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jun 24, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im not 100 percent on it

but everything i have been hearing says it is. Sounds like he had a belt around his neck and a shoe lace around his member. Im not saying this is fact, im just passing on the rumors that I have heard.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Jun 24, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol smooooth.

I hope for his family’s sake it stays unconfirmed.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jun 24, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahaha

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jun 24, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you call these???

Matt Cassel
Mike Vrabel
Zach Thomas
Mike Goff
Mike Brown
They may not the big names like TO or Boldin or whatever but still, they are all very good football players. The Chiefs have been very active in signing talent this offseason. I for one am not going to complain. These are just the types of moves we should expect from the new regime.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 24, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

And

I would say 4 of the 5 are going to be starters! That’s a good haul for free agents.

by Primmtime on Jun 24, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea for

about a total of one-two years I still wouldnt go as bold to say those are BIG NAME FA’s…..yea I mean maybe Vrabel and Thomas 4-6 years ago… dont get me wrong I like all of them but besides Cassel I dont see too many others staying too long as there career comes to an end

Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win chapionships

by DT58forever on Jun 24, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and which

young guys would that be(at LB)…..besides DJ who is going into his 5th year

Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win chapionships

by DT58forever on Jun 25, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got nothin for ya at LB...

To tell the truth, I don’t know what the Chiefs will do at that position after this year. IMO that will have to be addressed heavily in next years draft. Vrabel is probably good for a couple more years although I don’t think you can say the same about ZT.
Something I do find interesting is that Pioli seems to prefer getting veteran LBs over drafting young guys.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 25, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get 'em Chiefsfan!!! hahaha

"You can live for Nothing or die for Something, it's your call" - John Rambo

by Matt_Grbac on Jun 24, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe that..

Over the next couple of years as this team starts gelling and getting better we will be able to add pieces at the right times that will vastly improve our team. Right now we have to figure out WHO is part of the foundation for this new Chiefs team and by that I mean which players are going to stick and which players are temporary. Obviously some of the older acquisitions this offseason will not be here for more than 3 years but they will help the team right NOW as a unit. Everyone knows the cornerstone players of great teams and we need to start establishing that this year that way in the years to come we can turn this foundation into a full structure. (Sorry that metaphor is kind of weak but you get what I’m saying, right?)

 I just think of how Randy Moss was not an original foundational member of this decades Patriots teams but think about now. With a great trade by Pioli for a 4th rounder from the foolish Raiders, they got a receiver who broke the touchdown record in the first season. In time, I believe we will get such impact players from a couple years of good drafting or trades. It also doesn’t hurt that the man that made that trade happen is now running our organization. Sweet.

Go Chiefs!

by King of the Cassel on Jun 24, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cassel was arguably the biggest acquisition of the off-season in the league...

In terms of “impact” that is. Sure Haynesworth was the most money, but he’s a known quantity. He’s probably not the single step any team including the skins need. We’d argue that purely in terms of scale Haynesworth is less of an impact deal than Cassel (either positively or negatively as time will tell).

Also, he blows those knees out, Snyder gets screwed.

The Montana deal was pretty huge, but we understand you’re talking about the present.

The Moss deal gets a lot of revisionist history, not only did people think Moss was an incurable cancer but pats were already proven winners. Belichick probably deserves the credit for making it work.

Overall we’re okay with waiting for the right deal, but having no upgrade for MacIntosh and Ron Edwards worries us. Either Haley turns them into something they haven’t been (entirely possible) or else those are two pretty significant weak points.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jun 24, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ron Edwards is now a backup

so we did address that issue. We didn’t address the RT spot, which remains a weakness. Sackintosh was playing better by the end of last season, but having him as a starter still concerns me. I’d say our weakest points remain pass-rush (a change in scheme may help) and receiver. I know everybody says our receivers are underrated and Haley will transform them, but I think it remains our weakest position (and with the least depth).

by Chiefs4Life on Jun 24, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edwards is back-up whose going to see the field from the sounds of it

More we were talking just a big guy primary/different look back-up, he was a back-up last year and cost us plenty.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jun 24, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Chiefs have had their share of big acquisitions

unless you have forgotten or completely discount Dan Saleaumua, Marcus Allen, Joe Montana, Andre Rison, James Hasty, Priest Holmes and Wille Roaf.

I’m sure I have forgotten a few others.

by LennytheCool on Jun 24, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

Also Chester McGlockton, Patrick Surtain, Ty Law, etc.

by tbwhall on Jun 24, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When we get to the point

where a superbowl team is absent of one or two players I’d expect to see an Adalius Thomas like acquisition.. But for now we don’t even have a set core of players to build around.. All of our players’ jobs are in jeopardy for a few seasons

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Jun 24, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

. The Redskins always seem to walk away with a prized possession or two (even if it doesn’t lead to anything good)

pretty much sums it up for me.

by REMWHEN on Jun 24, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2 words

ANQUAN……..BOLDIN

Get on it Scott! I’d settle for Plaxico though.

by chiefnyc on Jun 24, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I cant see either of those happening.

But honestly I dont think we’re more then a WR and an Olineman away from making a big splash in the league as early as this year.

by GenericBrand on Jun 24, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least

making a slash in a weak division

by Fourstrike89 on Jun 24, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're often free agents for a reason...

As noted by many, throwing big money at big names isn’t a winning formula. The Moss deal was pretty low-risk/high reward. Look at TO – he’s got the talent, but the drama?

I’d guess P-man knows that there are only a few types of players you want as FAs: Guys with hidden gas in the tank (Roaf), Guys who were a bad fit in the former team/washed out when new regime cleaned house, and guys who are actually reformed/reformable in the organization (Moss), and guys let go due to a team’s mistake.

Those types of players are hen’s teeth, though. Most of the FA market is overpriced, or well past their prime. While we’ve picked up a few of the latter, P-man’s done a commendable job of avoiding the former. Thus, no news of “marquee” signings. Good on him, I say.

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines

by Bleedingredandgold on Jun 24, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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