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The Greatest Kansas City Chiefs, By the Numbers: #10

KANSAS CITY, MO - NOVEMBER 19: Quarterback Trent Green #10 of the Kansas City Chiefs runs through a hole in the line against the Kansas City Chiefs in the third quarter on November 19, 2006 at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri. The Chiefs defeated the Raiders 17-13.

KANSAS CITY, MO - NOVEMBER 19: Quarterback Trent Green #10 of the Kansas City Chiefs runs through a hole in the line against the Kansas City Chiefs in the third quarter on November 19, 2006 at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri. The Chiefs defeated the Raiders 17-13.

Chances are, Terrance Copper, who currently wears #10 for the Kansas City Chiefs, won't be the greatest player of all-time with that number.

Let's see what greats have worn #10 over the years in KC:

  • QB Pete Beathard (1964-67, 1973)
  • QB Mike Elkins (1989-1990)
  • QB Trent Green (2001-04)
  • QB Mike Livingston (1968-1979)
  • HB James Saxton (1962)
  • QB Frank Seurer (1986-87)
  • K Pete Stoyanovich (1996-2000)
  • P Kent Sullivan (1992)
  • QB Alex Van Pelt (1993)

Click through for more info on all of these guys. Make sure you vote!

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QB Pete Beathard (1964-67, 1973)

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After amassing some rather bland passing statistics as the Kansas City Chiefs first round pick in the AFL for over three seasons, Pete Beathard was traded to the Houston Oilers. After three seasons in Houston, Beathard made his foray into the then young NFL, playing for the St. Louis Cardinals and Rams before making his way back to Kansas City in 1973. Over his five year career in KC, Beathard completed 43.3% of his passes; passed for 1,649 yards; and had an 8:13 TD to INT ratio.

QB Mike Elkins (1989-1990)

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Drafted in the second round out of Wake Forest, Elkins fell into that late 1980s through 1990s QB development abyss the Chiefs had rocking in KC. Despite being a second round pick, Elkins found himself low on the depth chart pretty quickly, with QB Steve Deberg holding tightly onto the team's starting spot.

Elkins only made two pass attempts as a Chief - one completion and one interception.

QB Trent Green (2001-04)

Mmqb

You guys remember this Trent fella, right?

Of course you do. Playing for the Chiefs for six seasons, Green hold five of the ten all-time best passing seasons in team history. Over those six seasons, Trent completed 61.9% of his passes; passed for over 21,000 yards; and had an 118:85 TD to INT ratio. Let me let Wikipedia take over for a second here:

With a third consecutive 4,000 yard season, Green joins Drew Bledsoe, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon as the only quarterbacks in NFL history to pass for more than 4,000 yards in three or more seasons during their careers. Green has the distinction of having three consecutive seasons with a QB rating of 90.0 or better. Green has started 80 consecutive games during his first five years with the Chiefs, a team record.

Hmm. You think he has a chance to win this poll?

QB Mike Livingston (1968-1979)

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Livingston spent his entire football career in Kansas City with most of the years spent backing up QB Len Dawson. And it was Livingston's incredible play as a backup that we as Chiefs fans have to thank for the franchise's only Super Bowl.

In 1969, Len Dawson injured his knee during the second game of the season. In six games of relief, Livingston led the Chiefs to a 6-0 record during that stretch before Lenny came back and the Chiefs got their only ring.

HB James Saxton (1962)

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Not to be confused with former RB coach James Saxon, Jimmy Saxton produced meager stats in one season for the Dallas Texas. He was drafted in the 10th round of the 1962 AFL draft.

QB Frank Seurer (1986-87)

Drafted by the Seahawks in 1984 in the supplemental draft, Frank Seurer surfaced again in 1986 in Kansas City. While in KC, played in nine games, starting two of them. He played mostly during the 1987 strike shortened season and fell out of football after a car accident in spring 1987. Seurer is probably most famous holding a number of KU football passing records until Todd Reesing came along.

K Pete Stoyanovich (1996-2000)

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The long time Miami Dolphin came to KC in 1996 to replace the kicker who shall not be named and for that, we love him. Stoyanovich was a pretty reliable kicker for the Chiefs, making 80.9% of his kicks over his five year stay.

QB Alex Van Pelt (1993)

Van Pelt was drafted by the Steelers in 1993 after a great college career at Pitt, where he studied under Paul Hackett. When the Chiefs were having some nagging injury issues late in the '93 season, the team signed Van Pelt who was cut by the Steelers during training camp. Once Joe Montana came on board though, there was no room for Van Pelt and he was released.

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Who is the greatest Chief to wear #10?

Poll
Who is the greatest Chief to wear #10?
QB Pete Beathard
5 votes
QB Mike Elkins
2 votes
QB Trent Green
921 votes
QB Mike Livingston
35 votes
HB James Saxton
2 votes
QB Frank Seurer
6 votes
K Pete Stoyanovich
56 votes
QB Alex Van Pelt
8 votes

1035 votes | Poll has closed

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Alex van Pelt...

So tempting to be the only ones. We voted stoyo just cause we never much cared for that Trent guy with his dudley doo-right haircuts and quiet confidence… a little too quiet if you ask us…

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jun 23, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was also never a huge Trent fan,

I always felt he was a bit overrated, more of a system QB, and a little too prone to the pick. But I could not in good conscience vote for a kicker.

For justice we must go to Don Pioli

by Sudden on Jun 23, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what is overrated?

The term “System QB”

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jun 23, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Before I even read the post I was biased to Trent Green

He was the head of an offense that arguably was more dangerous than the Montana offense. Those were good times

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Jun 23, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can't even compare the Montana Offense to Trent Greens Offence

Our offense under vermeil was incredibly better than the offense we had during 93 and 94 so I’m quite surprised the comparison…

Greens offense was one of the best offenses we’ve ever seen period..Give the guy some credit..Sure the line was incredible but Green was incredibly accurate..And I believed Green was with us til 2006 not 2004.

Green’s got my vote hands down without even having to think about it

by CALIFAN1986 on Jun 23, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally agree with you

I was just afraid of the Montana homers

Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.

by 808NaNz808 on Jun 23, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

This should have been a slam dunk 100% for Trent.
His teams were so much fun to watch.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jun 23, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is retarded

what’s tomorrow? The best player to wear #23 for the Chicago Bulls?

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 23, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's retarted to you

And something to kill time in the offseason.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 23, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kill time

waste space. Tomato, tomatoe

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 23, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's even more retarded

this list excludes Sammy Parker & Slash Hagans

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 23, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, guess I just wasted my vote.

I voted for Green, but you’re right – Hagans isn’t an option at all.

I demand a new poll!

by Seth_C on Jun 23, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by 65tosspowertrap

Niner Niner Good Buddy. If you don’t remember Sammy Parker & Maques Hagans you missed some shining moments in Chiefs football and we’ve got some catching up to do. For starters, “Slash Hagans” was our best QB last season with a perfect pass completion %

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 23, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by KansasCityShuffle I agree ! Now I need you to remember neither made this survey

  { In addition I will let the 2 grand ride : Just for another cut !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by KansasCityShuffle In my neck of the WoodLands The Royals are :

     Playing the Astros ! Greinke’s pitching tonight so { if we catching up } let us catch up ! by KansasCityShuffle 06/23/09 2:56 pm PDT 7:05pm Cst Resistance is futile !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

They have rip tides too. Have fun as Grienke blows up the Astros :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 23, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Green was very good

It has been a privilege to get to see most all of these players, play for the Chiefs in the past.

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jun 23, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trent was a good QB but

If not for Livingston, Lenny the cool wouldn’t of had the chance to give us the championship.

by 63gump on Jun 23, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sure

But the question is “Who is the greatest Chief to wear #10”
Trent Green hands down.

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jun 23, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted for Livingston

just cause I wanted tooo:)
I guess we know how many old farts are out here

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 23, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1969 stats

As a backup to starter Len Dawson during the Chiefs’ American Football League and World Championship season in 1969, Livingston started 9 games, threw for 1123 yards, was 84 of 161, with 4 touchdowns.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 23, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Easy. Trent Green. I met him a couple weeks ago, and he signed my jersey. I never expected an NFL player to be so nice. What a guy.

by DBoweShow26 on Jun 23, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you planning on doing all the numbers?

I guess #10 seems obvious to me, but there is some even more obvious ones?
16 – Len Dawson
58 – Derrick Thomas
88 – Tony Gonzalez
80 – Johnnie Morton

Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.

by craig in calgary on Jun 23, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

# 18 Emmit Thomas # 17 Elmo Wright #65 Ed Bud # 71 Jim Tyre 78 Bobby Bell #61 Culy Culp

 Dino Hackett Bill Mass #89 Otis Taylor #45 Tank Homes Johnny Robinson #20 Deron Cherry ! Just of the # 31 Priest Holmes as of today ; Maurice Leggett

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SLow the computer down

Your giving away the ending :)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 23, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grunhard was #61

Other than that, easy choices

by 63gump on Jun 23, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

63, 78 and 86

Should be no-brainers also.

by 63gump on Jun 23, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Argeed

But what about Paige and Okoye? Just check the ring of honor, or I guess the new hall at Arrowhead and you have most of the answers.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

by KC Fanatic on Jun 23, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just drunk and bored

I have very few correct answers

by 63gump on Jun 23, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

#10

Some of you younger fans may not remember Mike livingston. No Livingston no world championship. In 69 Dawson was hurt most of the year an mike stepped in and did a great job. He also played on some poor teams for us but he was a solid QB.

David Logue

by dklogue1 on Jun 23, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And obviously Hank chose Dawson

Livinston played his role and never a Bitch, or Moan. Unlike others later on.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 23, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Elkins

Any day now he’s going to seize the reins and lead the team to Super Bowl glory. Carl Peterson’s selection of him with a 2nd round draft pick WILL be validated!!!

Seriously, is this even really a question? It’s Green in first by a mile, Stoyanovich second (because he’s a kicker).

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 23, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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