Previewing the Kansas City Chiefs 2009 Schedule: Week 2
by Chris Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 10:49 AM CDT
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On September 20th, the Oakland Raiders (5-11) will travel to Arrowhead Stadium to face the Kansas City Chiefs (2-14). This will be the Chiefs first AFC West opponent of the year, while Oakland will be in the middle of three straight divisional games to start off the season. They play San Diego in Week 1 and Denver in Week 3.
Last season, when the Kansas City Chiefs played the Oakland Raiders in Week 2, the fans got their first indication that something was seriously wrong with our football team. On 47 rushing attempts that day, the Raiders ran for 300 yards and 14 first downs. QB Jamarcus Russell only completed six passes on seventeen attempts. The Chiefs didn't even score until there was four minutes left in the game. And we gave up a Raider touchdown after that, making the final score 23 to 8.
Needless to say, it was a rough day to be a Chiefs fan.
But as a consolation, the Oakland Raiders 2009 off season has made it tough to be an Oakland Raider fan. It hasn't been the comedy of errors that we've seen play on in Denver but we're talking about Al Davis here. We're talking about the league's second worst run defense and an owner who has done virtually nothing to address the problem.
After the jump, we take a look at what the Raiders have done this off season to improve their team and then we'll examine how this Week 2 match up in Kansas City may go down.
2008 Season Snapshot
The 2008 Oakland Raiders finished the season ranked 29th in both points and yards gained per game, 32nd in passing yards and 10th in rushing yards per game. Their defense didn't fare much better over the long haul. Oakland finished 2008 24th in points allowed; 27th in yards allowed; 10th in passing yards allowed; and finally 31st in rushing yards allowed.
Where the Raiders excelled was rushing the football. They rushed for more than 150 yards in five contests and went over 100 yards rushing in nine games total last year. The rushing combo of Michael Bush, Darren McFadden and Justin Fargas was a potent one, as the team split carries mainly between those three players and amassed nearly 2,000 yards rushing for the season.
With Jamarcus Russell throwing the football last year, the Raiders were absolutely terrible in the passing game. Russell passed for over 200 yards only three times and passed under 150 yards a game nine times.
Much like the Chiefs did, the Raiders got killed in the running game last year on defense. The Raiders gave up over 2,500 yards rushing on the ground and had a middle of the season stretch where nearly every team destroyed Oakland on the ground.
2009 Off Season Roster Moves
Veteran Signings: QB Jeff Garcia, RB Gary Russell, FB Lorenzo Neal, OT Khalif Barnes, OT Erik Pears, G Marcus Johnson, C Samson Satele, DE Greg Ellis, DT Ryan Boschetti, S Keith Davis.
Draft Picks: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, SS Michael Mitchell, DE Matt Shaughnessy, WR Louis Murphy, OLB Slade Norris, DE Stryker Sulak, TE Brandon Myers.
Offseason Losses: FB Justin Griffith, WR Ronald Curry, WR Drew Carter, WR Ashley Lelie, OT Kwame Harris, C Jake Grove, DE Kalimba Edwards, OLB Robert Thomas, SS Gibril Wilson, S Rashad Baker.
While Al Davis continues this off season to sign guys with serious knee problems, let's go straight to the source of Raiders fandom over at Silver and Black Pride to get their thoughts on the team's first round pick, WR Darrius Heyward-Bey:
40 YARD DASH TIMES ARE NOT EVERYTHING
This is why we will never win until al davis goes away. if you want fast guys there’s plenty of skiny sprinters in the olympics. WE ARE THE WORST RUN ORG IN THE NFL.
Even if he turns out to be descent picking him at 7 is terrible imo. We could have grabbed a 4th rounder and traded down a dozen spots to snag him. Bah being a Raiders fan on draft day is rough.
So, without going into too much more detail, Raiders fans are quite upset with Al Davis not properly addressing the team's needs through the draft. Through the draft, Oakland did bolster what is quickly becoming one of the best secondaries in the NFL. Despite being a reach, second round pick S Michael Mitchell is highly talented. Top corner Nnamdi Asomugha makes #2 CB Chris Johnson's job that much easier as well.
The team did address part of their offensive line needs through free agency by adding OT Khalif Barnes. As you can see though, the Raiders did pretty much nothing to address that terrible defensive line. Al Davis, at it again.
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| Darren McFadden #20 of the Oakland Raiders carries the ball as Derrick Johnson #56 of the Kansas City Chiefs defends during the first half of the game on September 14, 2008 at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images) |
Why the Chiefs Will Win
It was clear last season that teams knew what to do against the Raiders - run the football. And with Al Davis doing virtually nothing to fix that problem this off season, the Chiefs' best chance to beat the Raiders in Week 2 is to pound, pound the football. Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles are going to have to combine for at least thirty rushing attempts this game to ensure a Chiefs win. It would make no sense not to attack the Raiders biggest weak point.
Couple that terrible run defense with what will hopefully be an improved and more efficient passing game with Matt Cassel leading the way and the Chiefs should definitley have the Raiders' number on defense. If the team can't produce yards and points against this Raider defense in Week 2, it's going to feel a lot like last season's Week 2 loss in Oakland - demoralizing, depressing and a sad indication of things to come in KC.
The lack of a decent Oakland passing attack will also help the Chiefs win this game. Jamarcus Russell still hasn't impressed really anyone and the addition of WR Darrius Heyward-Bey hasn't exactly put the Raiders over the top in the receiving talent category. If you take a look at the Raiders roster, tell me who exactly besides Heyward-Bey is Russell going to throw to? Javon Walker? TE Zach Miller should see an increase in his production this year. He may end up being Oakland's most reliable target.
Why the Raiders Will Win
By far the biggest reason the Oakland Raiders were able to win one of their two games against the Chiefs last year was their ability to run the football. The Raiders may have been 31st in the NFL in rushing yards allowed but the Chiefs were 30th (and not far behind Oakland's average). The Raiders will be looking to do what the Chiefs will be looking to do against them - run the football all day long.
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| Quarterback Tyler Thigpen #4 of the Kansas City Chiefs is sacked by Derrick Burgess #56 of the Oakland Raiders during the first half of the game on Saptember 14, 2008 at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images) |
I'll admit it. A new defensive scheme with hopeful but unproven younger guys makes me scared against Darren McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas. Those three destroyed the Chiefs last year in Week 2 and there really isn't a whole lot, besides the addition of Tyson Jackson, that makes me think the Chiefs will have solved their rushing problems by Week 2.
Also, I know I'm not in the minority when I emphasize how much different this offense is going to look without Tony Gonzalez. I really have no idea what to expect without TG lining up for the Chiefs. I suspect that the loss of TG is going to hurt much more than any of us really want to admit right now. We'll be finding out very early in the season, and especially during Week 2, just how well the Chiefs are going to function without the Hall of Fame tight end.
Finally, the Raiders have a big edge on special teams. Sebastian Janikowski will continue to be a top notch kicker, even if the last few seasons haven't reflected that. Shane Lechler is the NFL's best punter. Plus, Oakland has two great return men in Justin Miller and Johnnie Lee Higgins. Miller returned two kickoffs for TDs last year and Higgins took three punt returns all the way back for scores. One big return by either one of those guys, resulting in a field goal or a touchdown, could be the difference in what I predict is going to be a close game.
My Prediction
I hate admitting this but the Chiefs and Raiders are pretty close in talent level right now. Things could easily change if say our rush defense gels quickly in 2009 but for right now, these two teams are pretty even.
I don't believe that either one of these team's defenses are going to be markedly improved by Week 2. With that said, I'm not predicting a shootout either. Both secondaries could be considered team strengths, which will limit both team's relatively weak passing games. I predict a sloppy game that is decided by one or two defensive breakdowns that result in points for the opposing offense. Looking at last year's Chiefs/Raiders point totals, I predict a 20 to 17 Chiefs win. The Arrowhead Advantage pulls the Chiefs through in a close divisional game.
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and there really isn’t a whole lot, besides the addition of Tyson Jackson, that makes me think the Chiefs will have solved their rushing problems by Week 2.
I’m sorry, I just don’t see how replacing Weston Dacus and Pat Thomas with Mike Vrabel and Zach Thomas wont vastly improve our run defense.
EVERYONE could run inside on us last season, because our MLB was horrible (so horrible that we misused Dorsey just to protect him from a guard) – even if his old legs may hamper him in getting outside, Zach Thomas is a HUGE upgrade against runs up the middle
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Do you think everyone is going to be playing pretty well in Week 2? That was more of my point. Not that we won’t get better but will it happen that quickly?
by Chris Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better against the inside run
I think in week 2 we will play better against the inside run. I’m not sure our pass-rush will materialize by then (if at all), and I’m still concerned about Hali having any pass coverage responsibilities. But having ZT and DJ on the inside with an improved defensive line will at least help stop the inside run.
by Chiefs4Life on Jun 22, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I think the best plan Defensively would be to stuff the running lanes all day and make Jamarcus beat us with his Arm and not his legs. With maybe Pollard cheating up also. That Raider O-line is going to take some time to get working together and I can see a multiple Sack game from our new and Improved D!
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 22, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 22, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farsi?
Yes, You remain enigmatic as always, I defintely take back the lack of depth or content crack :) Maybe another fisherman is calling.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 22, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inside run...
wasnt so much the problem last season, especially against the Raiders. We gave up the highest per carry average outside the tackles last year and thats where McFadden took it all day. The advantage we have is that as much as we might not be gelled on defense by week two, Oakland are perrenially slow starters as well.
I think this games outcome will depend on what happens the week before. If the Ravens have offensive success against us we may be in trouble in this game because both Oakland and Baltimores offenses will probably have a simillar strategy. The benefit we get either way is Oakland will be working with a short week and there will be very little tape to work with.
by GenericBrand on Jun 22, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we will be playing well as a team by Week 2
But I do think that Zach Thomas will be a force against the inside run.
Also, keeping linemen off of DJ will allow him to use his speed to come back to the inside even if he starts outside.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If what articles have been saying is true
about DJ following Zack around trying to learn, he will be a monster this year. plus Zack is back at the position he is know for, and i think he still has some play. As for Vrabel I think he hated he got traded so he is going to have something to prove. I hope all this isn’t hopeful thinking but I haven’t heard players being this excited about the start of the season in a long time. We may not have the best players for every position yet but having the players you do have believe in themselves and their team will be a big difference from last year.
Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!
by bringbacktheglory on Jun 22, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that the change of scheme will also help.
4-3 to the 3-4 has to help those runs up the middle.
by Helmets on Jun 22, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't the week 2 game last year...
…at Arrowhead also? I seem to remember they beat us at home, and then we beat them at Oakland a couple months later.
by jbj8609 on Jun 22, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I went to that game. Best seats I ever had and it was awful.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Likewise
I ponied up some bucks to get lower level seats on about the 40 yd line behind the Chiefs bench. I was so pissed after that game. The only thing that made it worth it was after the game in the parking lot i watched some KU and Mizzu fans get into a fight. There were 60 year old guys punching each other so i sat on the tailgate of my friends truck and got really drunk. That fight made the whole trip worth it, that and we went to a strip club after the game.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
Changing it now. Thanks!
by Chris Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
Q’s kinda becoming the unofficial depth chart guy. I look forward to more updates (maybe monthly?).
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He would seem to have some Charting gene in him.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 22, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once Training Camp starts we will have the "Official-Un-Official Depth Chart"
or at least the one they want us to see. I am sure I am way off!
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who thinks the Raiders added a bit better
players than they lost? I agree with Chris that this one will be really close. We can’t forget that a lot of these guys are more tired of losing than the Chiefs players are. They haven’t had a winning season for 6 years? I would be playing my butt off if I was them.
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Will Al Davis fire his GM and HC and bring in some new Game Plan.
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 22, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respect your adversary grasshopper
Then your overconfidence will not become a stumbling block.
j/k :)
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all the same players
most of the players haven’t suffered through all of those seasons. If I were a Raider, I’d play my butt ff to get a better contract with another team.
by Chiefs4Life on Jun 22, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haaaahaaa. Agree.
I would want out! What kind of cruel twist of fate, if you were a life-time Chiefs fan, and you got drafted to play in Oakland? Aaaaaaargh! Would you pull an Elway/Eli and tell them you will absolutely not play for them?
Dream of playing in the NFL tainted by playing for the Raiders. Too cruel.
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.........
They have to be tired of losing………..but until they get QB in oakland, they will continue to lose.
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 22, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely Cap.
They need better play out of their QB position. I remember actually being happy when they drafted Russell, because at the very least, I thought he would be a project. When he held out of his rookie training camp it couldn’t have been better.
Primetime is right, the only QB we should be concerned with in the West is Rivers.
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I think Orton has the chance to be a capable starter. Not great, or even very good by any means, but “good enough.”
Ideally, Russell plays okay this year, enough for the Oakland brass to give him another year as the unquestioned starter. I want him to show just enough that Al Davis will think he’s nearly there then we go through this whole situation again next season.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This situation reminds me
Of Herm giving Croyle the nod over Huard in ’08. We all knew it was because Croyle was the future, 3rd round pick, etc and Huard was the vet.
In hindsight, Huard was the right choice because Croyle never demonstrated an ability to competently run an NFL offense. The Russell/Garcia situation appears to be the exact same.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way
if Russell shows just enough this year then they are screwed next year. If he doesnt they are screwed even longer. Either way ill be laughing at them.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
I would rather them start the QB search over later rather than sooner.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey primetime
Ive been coming here for along time and ive never thanked you guys for what you do! This is a great site and i truly appreciate the work you guys do and how you help enable my addiction. Ok enough ass kissing just wanted to say thanks for the hard work.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We wouldn't do it if we weren't as obsessed with the Chiefs as you
And with a boring day job, what else is there to do?
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perrrrrrrfect.
Just the kind of QB Carousel Hell I was thinking.
I never like to wish any ill will except the Raiders, Broncos,and Chargers.
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
It’s like “I’ve been through it and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone else” regarding the QB carousel. You just KNOW you’re not going anywhere without a stable QB (Hello, mid-90s).
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am really hopeful that Cassel
is the real deal. He seems like our best hope for quite some time.
And oh yeah, the Colts. Playoff heartbreak knows no boundaries.
by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Picture
I like the picture of LJ scoring the TD. He was running with an attitude that game. That is good for the Chiefs.
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by Major Tom on Jun 22, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You forget sirs...
Lane Kiffin’s team was literally playing for his job. This has to be the only site on the internet where effing justin fargas is overrated.
The only thing the Raiders have going for them is Tom Cable definitely knows an “L” here guarantees a swift kick in the genitals from an octagenarian.
Not enough, we lose this game to the Oakland run and Clancy should be fired sight on seen. No homer, Chiefs should clean this one up nicely with one stupid jailbreak run for a TD.
21-7 Jefes.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Jun 22, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zach Miller
I really like what this guy can do.
Has a pretty good set of hands but isnt an amazing blocker yet.
I think he is going to have a strong season and then the raiders will end up losing him down the road.
Before you build yourself up, you must tear somebody else down.
by Zennedy on Jun 22, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We need to make a statement against the Waiters...
I hope the Chiefs bring their AAA game at the home opener. I actually do believe the Raiders are a better team than most are giving them credit for but, I want to see the Chiefs make an example of them and let every team in the West know that there is a new sheriff in town.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 22, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The new sherrif is DONG!
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he said the sherrif is NEAR...
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE Blazing Saddles!
3 Mongos on the D line and we are superbowl bound. Pass the beans.
by Zodeman on Jun 22, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice to see you dug up our DHB comments from immediatley after the draft
when right now we’re actually pretty good with the pick.
Other than that I’ll say you did a pretty good job with this. But the Chiefs won’t have, what I’ve heard for many Chiefs fans around my area, your best linebacker in Donnie Edwards. Plus I don’t think your passing game will be very good now that Gonzales is gone. The only major receiving threat you have is Bowe, who should be blanketed all day by Nnamdi.
However KC’s running attack is a tenacious one and one that does worry me if LJ can play like he did in Week 10, and not like week 2 last year where he didn’t even manage 30 yards.
I’m going to leave the Matt Cassel issue alone as he is a vast improvement at QB but someone I still don’t see as all too good.
Defensively for the Chiefs, this will be a long game. The team will still be getting used to that 3-4 defense and the Chiefs still lack a nose tackle. And Jackson will still be adjusting to the NFL game.
Oakland’s receiving corps is inexpereinced yes, but you left out last year’s two starters. Johnnie lee higgins, and Chaz Schilens. I’m not going to sit here and say that those two had great years as no Oakland receivers did, but they can potentially be dangerous this year. Schilens ran a 40-time almost identical to DHB’s, and catches everything that’s thrown to him. Higgins meanwhile, is equally as fast as DHB and as all those elusive moves that makes him a great punt returner. if the Chiefs focus all their time on Miller and the Raiders backfield, then these two will burn them all game.
I predict an Oakland victory on the scale of last year’s Week 2 victory.
Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God
by KA1Z3R on Jun 22, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Our only major recieving threat in Bowe is heads and shoulders above anybody on the Faiders. Your top reciever had what 22 catches last season. I don’t care how good his hands are or how fast he is, he still has Fatmarcus throwing the ball 200 mph over his head or in the dirt. Hell our third option had more catches than any WR with 30 in Mark Bradley and he only played in 9 games.
Next off ill touch on Cassel even if you wont. Look at Cassel’s numbers vs your boy Fatmarcus. Our new QB really makes your overpaid twinky eater look pretty foolish. I dont really have to say a whole lot because Russels stats speak pretty loud and clear. Its looking more and more like your number 1 overall pick is a bust. But i guess if you are sastisfied with 18 attempts a game and only 5 go for completions well more power to ya.
You want to question our D? Lets look at yours. What did Crazy Al do to help fix your pitiful run D? Oh thats right he REACHED for a stone handed WR because he can run a 4.3 forty. Oh and ive been laughing at all the reports of his hamstring, i really hope that hampers him all year long and everytime your D gives up another big run I want you to look at DHB in street clothes and realize just how pitiful your organization is as a whole.
With that said, good luck during the season because you will need it. Look for the Chiefs to continue our DOMINANCE over the faiders this year. Herm and crew are gone and a new regime with a new attitude are in town. So i guess we will see you week 2 and I know ill be laughing at the end of that game.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was absolutely hilarious
and completely true! Go Chiefs!
by Fourstrike89 on Jun 22, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rebuttal
nice to see you dug up our DHB comments from immediatley after the draft when right now we’re actually pretty good with the pick.
What’s changed in two months? He hasn’t been practicing much.
But the Chiefs won’t have, what I’ve heard for many Chiefs fans around my area, your best linebacker in Donnie Edwards
Edwards started four games for us last season. Not too worried about him being gone.
I’m going to leave the Matt Cassel issue alone as he is a vast improvement at QB but someone I still don’t see as all too good.
What about his play last season makes you think he isn’t a good player?
The team will still be getting used to that 3-4 defense and the Chiefs still lack a nose tackle.
Nose tackle: Tank Tyler. Strongest man out of his draft class and played nose at NC State for three years.
Oakland’s receiving corps is inexpereinced yes, but you left out last year’s two starters. Johnnie lee higgins, and Chaz Schilens. I’m not going to sit here and say that those two had great years as no Oakland receivers did, but they can potentially be dangerous this year
They were (by your standards)not very good last year, why will that change this year?
Higgins appears to be a darn good kick returner, I’ll give you that. But that’s a pretty low impact position.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and
Thanks for stopping by. Appreciate the comments.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look out
He’s XTREME becuase he refuses to spell his username ‘KAISER’
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and
I’m not going to sit here and say that those two had great years as no Oakland receivers did, but they can potentially be dangerous this year.
Jamaal Charles can potentially break a run for an 80-yard TD in each of the 16 games…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs are significantly bigger in front 7.
And I think job #1 will be stuffing the run. NT is a valid issue, but the Front 3 is the Front Office’s Front Priority. Not sure, exactly, how much 4-3 DT there will be in Tank Tyler’s role. Depends on which way the “hybrid” leans, but the front 3 are more like 3 DTs, and the LBs beside and behind ‘em are significantly bigger. DE/LB ’tweener at ROLB, with the smallest LB being DJohnson, who’s listed at 242, right now. I think his goal is 238 – the one LB in there whose purpose is to fly all over the field, unhindered by o-line.
There won’t be a pair of 230 lb LBs looking first to defend the pass and second to half-heartedly climb the backs of their own linemen in blitz packages. When the blitz up the middle is on, the front 3 are going to look to open a lane more than try (in vain) for an individual effort sack on their own. The hallmark of the KC blitz will be guys coming free a LOT more often, with DBs jumping routes more quickly.
I think the interior 3 will be tough as nails to run against between the tackles, and I don’t think the LBs will have their attention divided between pass coverage, inside run and outside run. I think they’ll be able to focus on runs from the OT to the sideline, and their main concession to pass coverage will be delivering a hit on receivers on their way up the field, giving their DBs the kind of help in the passing game that the DBs WANT: PRESSURE on the backfield.
Anyway, Chris, good reading, but a little light on the changes to the KC D. I think they’ll be up-to-speed a whole lot quicker’n many seem to think. This is a system they actually will have the people for (NT still in question, til Tyler shows if he has more than just potential). And the scheme will make sense to the players, rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater week after week. Main thing is, they should be bigger and more fundamentally sound. I think they’ll throw changeups to keep offenses off-balance, and NOT to mask fundamental weaknesses. A big difference, there. And the changeups will be within their understanding of the scheme, rather than radical changes to cover up the gaping holes from the week before.
Just by having enough big in enough depth will let them have stability in scheme (and how plays actually evolve), regardless of how complex or confusing it looks to offenses.
by hmills110 on Jun 22, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hey guys
well lets start off by saying the chiefs defense has gotten preety much no where. let me break it down to you guys as best as i know the team. you guys signed zach thomas whoopideee dooo. look what he did to help out a almost set defense last year with the cowboys. nothing!!!! know imagine him trying to carry the whole defensuive team on his shoulders not goping to happen. you guys are clowning on DHB!!!!you guys picked Tyson Jackson instead of the all pro LB. you guys have no room to talk. your defense has not improved. and will not be able to handle D-MAC, FARGAS, M. BUSH, ZACH MILLER, AND J RUSS. ya he might not be the greatest QB but when your defense is GASPING for air because our offense is running ALL over you guys the PLAYACTION will work to perfection.
KNOW your offense.
NO GONZALES=only threat to us= GONE
BOWE= consider him not even there he will be manned up by NANMDI
CASSEL= he better be succesfull when you have a great line protection ,RANDY MOSS, WES WELKER
and he stiull couldnt lead his team to the playoffs. whats he going to do with 1 target in BOWE one word NOTHING
raidernation
by dasnake41 on Jun 22, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you guys signed zach thomas whoopideee dooo. look what he did to help out a almost set defense last year with the cowboys. nothing!!!!
He had 94 tackles last year, which would have almost made him the #3 tackler on the 2008 Raiders (Howard had 97)
know imagine him trying to carry the whole defensuive team on his shoulders
Now imagine you can spell =)
you guys picked Tyson Jackson instead of the all pro LB
Correction – “possibly all pro LB”
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
not to mention
Our first two picks in the draft nailed down the top two 3-4 DE prospects in this draft class.
by Zodeman on Jun 22, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are exsctly why
everyone in the AFC West laughs at the Raiders. Its nice to see that they allow all you Faider inmates time to blog. Now if the California Penal system will take a few minutes to teach some spelling.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
being a steelers and chiefs fan
There is no team I hate more than the Faiders.
I just need to keep my mouth shut here Or Ill get banned.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 22, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be worried about getting banned
for defending our team against some Faider fans. But if i crossed the line ill try to dial it back a little bit., its just those damn Raiders piss me off.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no I think you were fine.
I just can’t talk to raiders fans without be flagrant haha.
If anyone wants to know who I am, Just look for the guy in the arrowhead parking lot after this game fighting raiders fans.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 22, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i can get that way too
After the Bronco’s game on Thanksgiving night a few years back i about got into a tussle. I was heckling some Donkey fans in the parking lot and just giving them the normal shit that they should expect after a loss. Well this one guy took it to the next level and said “Your mom is a stupid fucking whore……” well i got pissed as hell cause i was pretty drunk but before i could do anything i see a red streak out of the corner of my eye come flying up and he spears the guy. I laughed so hard, maybe it was you!!
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Jun 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha don't wanna take credit for that one.
I missed that broncho’s game. The girlfriend is a Donkey fan. It keeps the passion alive =],
Sooo I have to play nice with the Donkeys and we have fun watching the games each year. Hell, at least she likes watching football with me.
Drunken heckling has led to many show downs. I do try to take it semi casual at first but if someone says the wrong thing my temper gets going. Its not my fault I buy more beer when the raiders are getting kicked around the field. It’s almost better than christmas.
I just hope the games stay semi completive so I don’t start to feel bad for them.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 23, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm....did you became a steelers fan
in late january??
i wouldn’t doubt it.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
by naq92 on Jun 22, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
me?
Born in pittsburgh dude.
But its totally cool to question what kind of fan I am.
You are?
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 23, 2009 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgive him
he’s just a Raiders fan…what did you expect?
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 23, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad bro
totally classless.
it just seems in the bay area all these steeler fans spawned right around early february….
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
by naq92 on Jun 23, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all good.
I’ve said much meaner stuff to Raiders fans…on purpose haha.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 23, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Of All
I would like to thank Chris on a DAM good post I loved it, when I read it because it had points from both the Chiefs and Raider sides. It will be a good mach-up in my opinion but, to me wining this game or losing this game will come from the week 1 game of the Raiders vs Chargers.
Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.
by nishal26 on Jun 22, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean whether or not they are fired up or down on themselves from winning or loosing against the Dolts?
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry
I dont see this being a good game at all. At this point, I see this game as a confidence booster for the raiders in case they suffer another embarrassing loss on week 1 MNF.
that’s what it was last year.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
by naq92 on Jun 22, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will be coming out of a game with the Ravens, a much better team than the Dolts, IMO
and we’ll be back home to prove a point.
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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dasnake41
Thank you for your woefully malformed and misguided attempt at analysis
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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did I miss a good ol fashion Raiderfan flogging?
by GenericBrand on Jun 22, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Side note...
There were no takers at the Raider blog to get opinions etc like in the Baltimore game analysis?
by GenericBrand on Jun 22, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Primetime tried contacting both of the fans, but neither one could come up with a coherent thought.
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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, alot of tough talk from a team that has really been smoking for.........
What the last 30 years, no? The last 20? how about the last 10? 5? Wait now I remember why I don’t hate KC, they haven’t really done anything have they. Neither have the Raiders, but we do love our team……. Its been awhile but I do remember Tyrone Wheatley bulldozing 2 KFC defenders into the endzone on a night of torrential rains, but that was 7 years ago……Will say that the Raiders-Chiefs history is some of the best in football. Loved it in the mid and late 70’s. Now that was football…..The only team or fans I have no respect for is the Chargers, who in 49 yrs. is the only AFC WEST team that can’t seem to win a SB even after going 14-2……But, go ahead keep talking so high and mighty when not by the RAider fans, but by football analysts. You are considered the 2nd or 3rd worse team in all of football
by Raidermomo64 on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Future
Yeah but we’ve got what those same analysts would call one of the best football minds in the business running the show. Al Davis is the butt of a joke.
Not meant to aim this at you, personally. I’m trying to be objective but those two are a major difference why all those analysts would put the Chiefs in the playoffs in 2-3 years and the Raiders continuing to stay in the basement.
Right now..you’re right. Neither of us should be arguing because we’ve both been miserable the last two seasons.
by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I won’t sit here and say I agree with all the Davis does, but nor can I pretend like I know more about football than he does. Let’s face it, times like these, you have to focus on the positives. Yeah, it’s been a rough stretch, but overall, the Raiders do have one of best all time winning percentages in the league. And that’s not a shot at the Chiefs. The point is most of those years, Al was doing it right, even if it seemed there was no method to the madness. Now it’s always possible that he’s lost it, can’t do it anymore…it could happen. But there’s no point in being pessimistic about it.
Russell being a key point. I’ve argued with a lot of Raider fans about him. I believe in the man. I’ve showed people repeatedly that his first full season stats are comparable to Matt Ryan’s even, despite not playing for one of the better teams. That they’re better than Young’s or Leinart’s first seasons. That they’re even in line with most of the good quarterbacks. But people always find a reason to criticize him. I don’t know why so many people seem to expect miracles out of rookies. A fat paycheck doesn’t ensure that.
by rightnasty on Jun 23, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Matt Ryan: 265/434, 61.1%, 3440 yards, 16 tds, 11 ints, 87.7 passer rating
Jamarcus Russell: 198/368, 53.8%, 2423 yards, 13 tds, 8 ints, 77.1 passer rating
Now maybe my math is rusty but I don’t see anything comparable in those numbers. The only “debatable” number is TDs and the only reason Ryan’s TDs are low is because Atlanta was a run first defense in the red zone.
Regardless of numbers, most people who know football dont say he’s on his last chance or is borderline busting out solely because of them. Theres intangibles that a leader at the QB has that he is lacking. Maybe he’ll mature quickly and he’ll be a decent QB or maybe they’re going to have to pull a Gallery and avoid busting him by hiding him at guard which he might be more suited to play..
by GenericBrand on Jun 23, 2009 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve showed people repeatedly that his first full season stats are comparable to Matt Ryan’s even, despite not playing for one of the better teams.
Russell’s stats are nowhere near comparable to Ryan’s…look at completion %
That they’re better than Young’s or Leinart’s first seasons.
And surprise, Young and Leinart aren’t currently the starters…maybe Russell shouldn’t be either.
That they’re even in line with most of the good quarterbacks
Which of Russell’s stats are in line with either Manning, or Rivers, or McNabb, or Brady?
I don’t know why so many people seem to expect miracles out of rookies.
Russell didn’t play enough as a rookie to expect anything – but he’s not a rookie anymore, and he still hasn’t shown anything which justifies being the #1 pick.
If Stafford doesn’t wow everyone this season, some may grumble, but most will just be looking for improvement – but if his 2010 season looks like Russell’s 2008 season, people are going to start getting worried…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 23, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they are
You put Russell on team with a running back like Turner, receivers like Atlanta has and a solid defense like they have, and you will have impressive stats. Young and Leinert did have their chance, and couldn’t do it (so far) which is why they’re sitting on the bench. And when I mention good quarterbacks around the league, I was talking about their rookie stats. Go ahead. Go look up Donovan McNabb’s. And notice he kept the interceptions down, which is a problem most rookies have.
Most people who know football say he’s on his last chance?? Who? Who says that? How could anyone be on his last chance after his first season? See, there’s no tangible reasons for people to not like Russell, only gut feelings of what rookie should be able to do. Russell made the most sense to draft #1. Who else? Brady Quinn instead? Calvin Johnson? They already had Randy Moss. There’s nobody on that 2007 list that was better suited for the Raiders. Not when they’d had a string of free agent QBs that couldn’t get it done.
by rightnasty on Jun 23, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turner, recievers, and a good defense
won’t improve your accuracy.
Accuracy is the big difference – Ryan has it, and so far, Russell does not.
The completion percentages say it all…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jun 23, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? You think so?
If a guy drops a pass, it’s marked as an incompletion. If a guy doesn’t get to a ball that he should have, it’s marked as an incompletion. If nobody’s open and the quarterback has to throw it away, it’s an incompletion. If the running game is not a serious threat, and they know the other team has to throw, it’s easier to defend against the pass. If your defense can’t keep the score down, then you have to throw, usually against extra defensive backs. And, of course, if you’re O-line is weak, you’re going to be throwing on the run or with someone’s hands in your face or even as you’re getting hit. Yes, all those things factor in because it’s a team sport.
by rightnasty on Jun 23, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a heads up
If you going to try to convince anyone here that Jamarcus Russel is worth a damn, you better have a better argument than everyone else on your team sucks.
His stats (especially completion percent) are really wack, he can’t win games, and the play that I’ve watched hasn’t been that impressive.
Don’t get me wrong, I understand you vouching for your team’s QB, but this is probably not the right place to find other Russel fans…
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 23, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So not only.......
Does J.Russell suck it sounds to me like your saying the whole sucks.
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 23, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had some knock down drag out fights in those years, literally.
Make that 50 yrs for San Diego, Raidermomo and come on after all these years you’ve been around football your going to take the word of the “analysts”? The fans have a better idea of whats going on with their teams and most of the teams in their conference than they do. But if you want to go with that, I’ve seen a couple of power rankings that positioned the Raiders two spots below the Chiefs, one had the Raiders dead last. Sorry I just don’t buy in to the so called experts rankings at all.
We had Okoye, Word and yes even Allen running you guys over as well, remember?
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by oldchiefsfan on Jun 22, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by Raidermomo64 Obviously you have spent to much time in the black hole !
Welcome to the 21st cen ’ tu-ry ! #Neda Tell Kenny The Snake ; Darrll " ; Jack The Assasin Tatum ; The Mad Bomber & My Home Boy Warren Wells Howdy ! Thank You Very Much Imo Chiefs Reign Supreme ! See Week (2) !
by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Week 2 2009
Last year McFadden was hurt most of the year, they say he looks healthy in OTA’s and is looking much faster. The Raiders also brought in Lorenzo Neal to block for McFadden and Bush. And Bush they say is running in practice like a beast. The Raiders running game as good as it was last season should be much better this year.
The Raides are going to use Miller the TE more in the passing game this year and have been lining up McFadden at WR. Russell started to find a passing game over the last 6 games he played last year and that was with no receivers. Jerry Rice visited the Raiders practice and said he was suprised at the group of WR’s the Raiders have put together.
The Raiders are going to suprise some people tis year and I do not see us winning either game against them tis year.
by snnyjcbs on Jun 23, 2009 2:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bush is the stud in that backfield.
McFadden reminds me a little too much of the other Bush. He plays high and shifty which is a good way to get injured. He’s an athletic kid and a pretty good football player but the way he plays isn’t going to really allow him to breakout. With a good QB this guy would be great in two back situations and lining up at WR. Until then he’s going to have the responsibility of carrying the rock more then he should and in places he shouldnt be.
by GenericBrand on Jun 23, 2009 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its funny you should say that ....
The Raiders are going to suprise some people tis year and I do not see us winning either game against them tis year.
This sounds awful lot like you’re a Chiefs fan.
As to the safetey pic? the kid can play, when Cable said he knocks people out he meant he knocks people out. He knocked 3 players out cold while in College, he is 220 lbs and can fly. A beast against the run and good in coverage. He is a smart player and I think he was a great pick. We have not had an inforcer in our secondary for years.
But see this comment on S&B Pride sounds an awful lot like you’re a Raiderfan.
You have some really valid points in what you said, you dont need to be scared posting here. We’re a pretty respectful bunch. No need to pretend your someone your not and in doing so kind of discredit everything you said. Be a proud Raider fan and thankful that theres something to be hopeful for this offseason.
by GenericBrand on Jun 23, 2009 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Messed up the formatting. Back to the guide for me...
“The Raiders are going to suprise some people tis year and I do not see us winning either game against them tis year.” Quote 1
“As to the safetey pic? the kid can play, when Cable said he knocks people out he meant he knocks people out. He knocked 3 players out cold while in College, he is 220 lbs and can fly. A beast against the run and good in coverage. He is a smart player and I think he was a great pick. We have not had an inforcer in our secondary for years.” Quote 2
by GenericBrand on Jun 23, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAKE UP.........
Call to all raider fans theirs a new sheriff in town,and his name is “THE DON PIOLI” watch what you say or you could be swimming with the fishes. Playing your team this year will only add a couple more notches to his gun. When you guys get a real NFL QB then come talk some shit, until then………. talk to the hand. J.Russel wouldnt even be a back-up QB on my team, he cant hit his ass with both hands. The only chance you have in this game is to run the ball, and i dont think thats going to be a easy task.
by CPT.Caveman on Jun 23, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fake Field goal.......
I actually liked it…..I know, I am a Raider homer (easy guys). But, what Cable was trying to do is show that he isn’t scared of taking a chance. He was considered stupid for trying it. But a genius for the fake punt and run for a 1st down. What if he makes the first down on the fake field goal. All the analysts would have said "that is the type of coach the Raiders have been lacking……To be honest with you all, playing the Chiefs is probably my favorite game to watch….Whether we all suck or are playing great. It is one of the toughest games you will get to enjoy….I went to some games against the Chiefs where we lost to you all, and I left knowing that I had a great time. No, I haven’t had the chance to be in the black hole. I do want to though. they say its fun and not as bad as everybody thinks…..Here’s a quick synopsis in my views of the Raiders and why they will go 7-9….With a very bad O line, Cable made them a respectable running team, this year they will dominate. DHB & JLH. All you need to to is get one long pass off and the secondary will always send a CB & a Safety to cover them. As you know with Gonzalez, that will leave him 1 on 1 with a LB. They can’t cover a great TE, and gonzo was (and is) a great TE. Chaz Schilens is turning into a good WR, plus Dmac & Bush are very good at catching a pass out of the flats, and both can throw. Russell needs to get it together. Needs to be good, not great just good. Ellis and Burgess, Bookend DE’s. Burgess in a contract year will be a beast. LB’s are awesome. Safety’s are suspect, unless Mitchell can really bring it. CB’s are shutdown…..Thats it. I don’t like Denver, hate and don’t respect SD’s team or fans. I don’t like KC a whole lot (sorry), but I do respect their team and more so, I would rather talk football with a KC fan. YOu all have alot of history, and I would love for both franchises to be 1-2 as I love a good old fashioned rivalry. I remember Marty in his hay day and how he hated the Raiders,and thats cool…Go Raiders!! 10-6!! AFC WEST CHAMPIONS!! (by the way, thats just my signature out here in Sacramento California on all my posts. It gets SD fans really riled up)
by Raidermomo64 on Jun 23, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
theres a difference between taking a chance
and making a stupid play call. He set you up for failure on that play.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Jun 23, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised.......
No one to answer and either say I’m delusional, or that they remember the good ol’ days……..Still, if Jano makes the play, all the “so called professionals” say what a great gimmick that was. Also, Cable didn’t care. It was kind of television like. You know, come on boys, footballs a fun game. Lets go out there and have fun. Maybe he saw Rudy, or Remember the Titans, Friday Night Lights, or something like that. Anyway, can’t wait for football season to begin………Go Raiders!! 10-6!! AFC WEST CHAMPIONS!! (lol)
by Raidermomo64 on Jun 23, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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