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"53"

From the FanPosts. -Chris

Updated 6/24/2009

Updated Depth Chart

After updating the Stock Reports, I have to tell you that I have newfound respect for what coaches go through as they try to whittle down the roster to get to 53 players. Is it the "Right 53"? Well, it is still way too early to accurately predict who will line up as a Chief next season. Training camp is still lurking, and that is where the team will truly be built. The really interesting part to me was how this highlighted the best positional battles. The picture is starting to get a little clearer. Here is my best guess as to who makes the Roster.

Star-divide

 
















R. Price
D. Morgan







M. Brown
J. McGraw







J. Page
B. Pollard







Free Safety
Strong Safety
















A. Studebaker
C. Smith


P. Walters



T. McBride
C. Mays
J. Belcher
M. Beisel



T. Hali
D. Williams
W. Dacus
M. Vrabel



OLB
D. Johnson
Z. Thomas
OLB





ILB
ILB




J. Bates




D. Gales
L. Fryar

R. Colclough
B. Greenwood
D. Lokey
W. Gilberry
D. Washington

T. Daniels
A. Magee
R. Edwards
A. Boone
M. Leggett

B. Carr
G. Dorsey
TANK Tyler
T. Jackson
B. Flowers

Cornerback
Def. End
Nose Tackle
Def. End
Cornerback












Wide Receiver
Tackle Guard Center Guard Tackle Tight End Wide Receiver

D. Darling
B. Albert B. Waters R. Niswanger M. Goff D. McIntosh B. Cottam D. Bowe

M. Bradley
H. Taylor W. Smith E. Ghiaciuc E. Harrison B. Richardson T. Curtis T. Copper

T. Johnson
C. Goldberg B. De La Puente W. Smith T. Washington C. Brown J. O'Connell J. Webb




D. Harris


S. Ryan



Slot Receiver




T. Crabtree



B. Engram

Quarterback






Q. Lawrence
Fullback M. Cassel Tailback





R. Wright
M. Cox T. Thigpen L. Johnson







J. Collins B. Croyle J. Charles







J. O'Connell I. Martin J. Williams
KR/PR Punter

Long Snapper
Kicker

K. Smith
Q. Lawrence D. Colquitt

T. Purdum
R. Succop

J. Battle
R. Wright




C. Barth



D. Savage












  * NOTE:   Players outside the mandatory roster maximum of 53 are shown in yellow. *   

 A couple of hopefuls already received their pink slips this week, and I was only surprised by one name, Darrell Robertson. I thought D-Rob had an outside shot at the roster due to his time in the system, albeit brief. Gafford was an emergency fill-in at long snapper last season after Darche went down, but he still had more game experience than Tanner Purdum (Trust Pioli, Trust Pioli...). T.J. and C.J. won't be missed.

I want to stress that just because a player is listed in "yellow" does not mean that I think they will not make the roster. Only that they have their work cut out for them. Some of these battles could go either way, and it seems that a tie almost always goes to the veteran. I have to believe that Pioli is trying to change the roster to his guys, so that elevates a draft pick's stock somewhat. Of course, most of the fringe players will have to prove themselves on Special Teams. So that could also affect the final 53 if a back-up corner is a better special teamer than a back up linebacker, etc. Let's take a look at some of the better positional battles as I see it:

  1. Right Outside Linebacker:One of my favorites battles. We theoretically have two converted 4-3 DEs that may or may not be able to adjust to playing upright as a Linebacker. I am assuming that Vrabel is playing the LOLB, so if Hali has a starter's spot, it has to be at ROLB, and we all remember his struggles adjusting to the right side last year. If Turk is having the same kind of troubles, I am sure they might look at Beisel, Walters, or Studebaker as possibly being a starter here. To me, this one is wide open.
  2. Right Defensive End: This position has a great big ole spotlight on Mr. Glenn Dorsey. Excuse me, Defensive End Glenn Dorsey. I am still getting used to that. Rookie Alex MaGee will probably get a lot of playing time here, or win the position outright.  The thing that sticks out to me about our D Line is that they seem to be interchangeable parts. Most all of them could play all 3 line positions in a pinch, and that is a really good thing. I actually think there will be a good competition between Greenwood, Gales, Gilberry, and Lokey for the last spot on the D line. We have to have some depth here, so I went with Greenwood. 
  3. 4th and 5th Cornerback: OK, raise your hand if you are pulling for Maurice Leggett. OK, now raise you hand if you are pulling for Daniels, Colclough, or Washington. We know that Flowers and Carr are in, so I see these 4 guys vying for 3 positions. Should be a good one.
  4. 4th and 5th Wide Receiver: Hayley loves Wide Receivers, so could he keep 6? I doubt it. But we should see plenty of 3 WR sets, so 5 seems about right. I thought the Chiefs were fairly aggressive trying to find some new blood at this spot. Not sure if they hit the jackpot, but mark my words, this will be one of the best camp battles on the team. At this point, it is really difficult to know who will separate themselves from the pack. Not sure why, buy I have a feeling that Copper will beat out Webb. Engram plays the slot, and Lawrence makes the team at returner to give us our "Pseudo Sixth" Receiver.
  5. Back-up Interior Lineman: This problem area has really stuck in my craw for a couple of years now. The only new guy we are looking at inside is a guy who looks about equal to Niswanger on paper. And with Waters and Goff our Elder Statesman on the O line, we really need some guys to show well. I think Wade Smith makes the team because of his versatility, so that leaves Ghiaciuc, Harrison, De La Puente, and Washington fighting for the last spot.
  6. Right Tackle: This position battle really got me thinking, that if Colin Brown does well at Right Tackle, why not at least try the big-bodied Richardson at Left Tackle? I know what you all are thinking. What about Herb? Well Herb has good enough feet to play the left bookend, but he was less than spectacular when he got a chance at RT and RG last season. To make this roster, you need to be able to play more than one line position, and why not keep the 4 biggest and baddest (no pun intended) Tackles you have? Either way, there is no way they keep more than 4 Tackles, so this will be the end of the road for either Taylor, Richardson, Brown, or even McIntosh.
  7. Tight End: This position was described as a wide open one the other day, and with Tony G gone, why wouldn't it be? 6'7" Brad Cottam apparently is showing that when it comes right down to it, he really doesn't have much actual playing experience. This deficiency has opened the door for others such as Tony Curtis and Sean Ryan to step forward. 7th Round Draft Pick Jake O'Connell is wearing #45. Could this mean he is being looked at to play Fullback/H Back/Tight End? For now, this perceived versatility gets him the nod.
  8. Quarterback: I almost didn't put this down as a camp battle. But Hayley said that everyone will get a chance, so Thigpen gets his. I do think that Cassel will win this job, but it makes me feel a heck of a lot better that we have a guy like Thigpen at the #2 spot. The real battle could be whether or not Brodie comes back strong and healthy. Otherwise, we could be "Ingled" again. It could happen. 
  9. 3rd Running Back: I have no idea if the new regime holds any loyalty to Kolby Smith, or thinks that Jackie Battle has loads of potential. So I think their shiny new pick, Javarris Williams, makes the roster in a little bit of an upset. I have some thoughts that the team may want to keep O'Connell as an H Back and possibly use Williams in a back up role at TB and FB. This strategy may open another roster spot for a young LB or WR.
  10. Kick Returner: Lawrence, Wright, and Savage seem to have the best chance at being our returner this season. This has been in need of a serious upgrade ever since the day Dante Hall was traded to St. Louis, but honestly the Chiefs didn't go out of their way to upgrade this position. Wright could surprise and snag this spot because of his experience as a returner.
  11. Kicker: Succop's name kind of makes me laugh. But I guess I better get used to it, because I think his stronger leg, and Mr Irrelevant Status will elevate him over last year's incumbent Connor Barth

I want to  wish all of our potential Chiefs good luck in winning a spot! Trust me when I tell you that I am not obsessed with the depth chart! I am only obsessed with all things Chiefs! And obviously there are lots of good positional battles for us to watch and see who will be a Chief in 2009. The decisions behind the making of this depth chart were really tough ones, and now I know what Scott Pioli was saying when he talked about finding the "Right 53". It is much harder than it looks.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Excellent work

Underrated battle I think will be Colin Brown and Barry Richardson for the backup tackle spot. That’ll give us an idea of where Richardson really stands.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was one that I pondered for a long time

I can’t imagine that they would cut their 5th round pick from this year, especially with his excellent size, so I think that Colin stands a great chance to make the roster. But who do you cut? Richardson? Taylor? The competition alone should make our tackles play better.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily an either-or situation.

Brown will be a utility guy this year, who can play inside and might be one who will be realistically competing for a starting job somewhere along the o-line in 2010. Wouldn’t be surprised to see ’em run one more tackle than you currently expect, with any number of scenarios if one of the old guard old guards goes down. Heh.

Taylor’s performance last season suggests he’s not going anywhere. And Richardson showed some potential. And the Chiefs have an eye to 2010 and beyond when replacing aging starters with maximum team continuity will be the issue. So I’m thinking we see 5 tackles on the roster, with the possibility of moving one of them inside (McIntosh or Brown) if there are problems inside.

by hmills110 on Jul 9, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We do seem to have a promising group of tackles

But I would still be very surprised if we keep 5 of them, unless you are right and some of them could swing inside. With our two elderly starting guards, I am really concerned that we have depth there.

by TheQ on Jul 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Dorsey isn't a starter he has more value in a trade IMO.

I still think he gets the nod, but it could be a short leash with Magee there.

by Helmets on Jun 22, 2009 8:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Part of me thinks the biggest reason Dorsey is the starter there

is because of his draft status. That is not a diss to his ability, because I think he is a good player, but I just think that there may be some folks better suited to play the 3-4 end. I don’t think Dorsey has much trade value right now, and we really don’t have that much D line depth past the Front 6, so he is more valuable to us this year.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Duh.

He’ll mostly be a 3-tech DE, which is basically a DT that you’re scheming to free up more often (or throw offensive protections out of whack). Glenn ain’t goin’ anywhere.

But obviously if he doesn’t work out, the best bet is a trade. But I think “trade” is pretty far down the probability list, and he’ll be more than OK, with (counting Hali at ROLB and Vrabel at LOLB) a lot more BIG playing next to him up front. Even if Hali is the only LB coming, that’s more mass in the “front 4” than the Chiefs ever fielded last season. And I expect this team will be sending 5+ hats most of the time. This all helps Dorsey – you can’t just doubleteam the rookie, any more. He ain’t a rookie and they ain’t just sendin’ 4.

by hmills110 on Jul 9, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thought

if we do play a play in traditional 4-3 would
D left to right be Magee, Tyler, Dorsey, Jackson?
That would be a LOAD for the O to corral.
I know conventional thought would be swap Tyler and Dorsey, But teaming Dorsey and Jackson.
Makes me SCREAM! sorry

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO

1) All of the 2009 draft picks will make the team… maybe it’s ego, or whatever, but Pioli won’t want to give up on any of his picks that soon

2) Rookie FA’s Jovan Belcher, Taurus Johnson, and (hopefully) Pierre Walters WILL make the final roster

3) At least 3 other players we assume will make the team will get cut.

4) Studebaker makes the team, Dacus does nota

5) At least 2 of my predictions will be proven wrong, because the Pioli/Haley regime knows more than me or you, and have a plan they aren’t telling us all about

by stagdsp on Jun 22, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Studebaker I think will make it

He woulda been cut along with the others last week if he had been that far behind IMO.

by Joel Thorman on Jun 22, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good comments all

Agree that we really have no clue, this is all just a guess. I have heard good things about Studebaker, but I had to give some AP love to Walters! Also, there could be some cuts that shock us (if that is possibel at 6 wins in 2 years). Belcher is intriguing, but I always wonder how much of a jump to the Big Leagues these guys can make?

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dumb question

how many players will they carry at each position?

I assume there’s a standard number, but each team varies a bit, based on their scheme and personnel.

It’d be interesting to look at Arizona, New England and KC last year, to get a summary of how many at each position were on each roster

by stagdsp on Jun 22, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

depends on special teams value

From what I gather, this is what really makes the difference. 53 does not allow you to have anyone just ride pine and not contribute (except maybe for QB). That’s one reason the 3-4 D makes sense, because you can keep more LBs and they do well on special teams. Maybe same goes for TE or RB (I remember Haley saying somethng about Jackie Battle looking like a guy who should do well on ST. They might be willing to go thin on some position if ST value is high for a guy else where. And that comes back to the value of someone who can do more than one position.

by Zodeman on Jun 22, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

I don’t think there is any set number, but some of it depends on what kind of sets they will run such as 3 wide receiver sets. It would be hard to go into the season with just 4 wide receivers like we did last season. But last year we were planning on running a 2 tight end set until our 2 starting QBs went down.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if you can play both O and D

From boston.com:

Linebacker Mike Vrabel has been known to pop up as an eligible receiver at times. In yesterday’s 52-7 win over Washington, he was at it again, catching his second touchdown pass of the season.

by sunny D on Jun 22, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I find extremely encouraging about

the six interchangeable parts in the rotation at the defensive line is that there is good depth there. Plus, someone, (if not all) in this group is going to step up and make a statement. Our defense could be tough this year.

by G.L. on Jun 22, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It is time that some of these million dollar men on our D line start making a difference. Let us hope that we are at least stout against the run. It all starts there.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by TheQ Way to step on on Faith !

Clarification , Color coded & Footnotes ! As A Wind Talker/Chiefs fan Imo very impressive !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 22, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was just looking at some other NFL sites

and read one of the funniest things I have read in a while about Denver and it threw in a stab at Herm so that made it even better. it was something like (seeing whats happened to Denver this off season is like watching Herm destroy the chiefs all over again but in overdrive).

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jun 22, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OUCH.

I am not sure that Herm did anything in such dramatic fashion as McDaniels is, but it will probably have the same result.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Herm Edwards had the right IDEA, but his planning was horrible. He is great at finding talent, especially in the secondary. He’s a hell of a postgame speech giver. Especially after a loss. Ha. Not funny. Anyways..Herm could be an assistant, or positional coach. Or a Scout. But he’s too conservative to let him call the plays, let alone coach a whole team.

by Petey14 on Jun 29, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does seem so

Although I feel the new regime will turn things around with a more stern, rigid approach, I want to see it first before I start saying all is well. I guess I am a little jaded after our last re-building project that Herm started.

by TheQ on Jun 30, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Undisputably

Leggett will make the team.

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 22, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think so too #31

it looks like Colclough will be the odd man out. Leggett just has a knack for finding the ball, and that is a great skill to have.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we will carry 4 RB's

Didn’t NE carry 5 at the start of the season last year?

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 22, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is a good guess

We might have more talent at RB than TE or FB combined, so 4 there makes sense. I am telling ya, you can agonize over who to keep and who to let go. There are good arguments for a lot of players that will be shown the door by Sept. 2.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about that

there is a good crop of TE, there… and they are valuable on Special Teams too

I bet Smith might be done at RB…. the rookie, Williams and or J Battle might get his roster spot.
Savage may be done too… we’ll have to wait and see

by stagdsp on Jun 22, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is what I was thinking

Kolby just doesn’t seem like a lock, so a bigger, tougher Battle or more versatile Williams will probably get the spot.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see it now...

“53” – the motion picture.

The true story of the 2009 KC Chiefs who overcame all odds to win their division and go on to win the super bowl in dramatic fashion. Starring Matthew McConaughey as Todd Haley, Jeffrey Tambor as Scott Pioli, Predator as Tyson Jackon and Michael Cera as surprise superbowl QB Tyler Thigpen.

by GenericBrand on Jun 22, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I lost myself at McConaughey too to be honest...

but they seem to ruin football movies lately with poorly cast coaches like that.

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by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 24, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Jackie Chan as

“Chan” Gailey!!!!!!!LOL

by G.L. on Jun 22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice.

But I don’t think that Haley has quite the “schicks appeal” that McConaughey has. I am no expert though…

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say

Jack Nicholson as Haley LOL

Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win chapionships

by DT58forever on Jun 22, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see it more as

Bruce Willis as Todd Haley and James Gandolfini as Pioli.

There's always next week,,, and when we run out of weeks, there's always next year!

by Spiderwomn69 on Jun 23, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 22, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 22, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can decipher it.

But parsing for content usually finds it not worth the time. But a few friends of 65 get a kick out of it, so let ’em play.

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by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 25, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be really surprised if McBride make the team. More than anyone else, he seems to have no position he can play in the currenmt D. Too small for NT, too small for 3-4 DE, too slow for OLB.

by dablueguy on Jun 22, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup. That's up in the air.

But I think he’s a player who will stick with the team. But who knows? Maybe he’ll end up being traded. I just think that a BIG LB can be very useful in this 3-4. A big strong ROLB to wear out the LOT while Hali takes a breather. There’s a lot of 4-3 DE in the ROLB job description, so even if it takes a while for him in terms of zone drops, I think that will be a fairly small part of the job, especially in short yardage, where he might be a good guy to have on the field in Hali’s spot.

We’ll see how big he ends up being, after the strength-and-conditioning. He’s a player I want to see succeed. Seemed to me like a good player in a bad situation last season.

by hmills110 on Jun 22, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have always liked McBride

and he was our best hope of a pass rush last year. But injuries and the same old story derailed him. I hope he can find a spot. But this being his 3rd season, this may be a make or break one.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering about him too...

But, it seems like Haley likes his and Hali’s progress… he’s saying the transition guys have been coming along, but have a long way to go.

I could see him making the team, partially because of his versatility and experience. He can back up at OLB and DE, if he had to.

by stagdsp on Jun 22, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley will start over Darling.

I don’t see any way this will be flipped.

"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi

by Shawn on Jun 22, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure someone else will say this

but, according to most accounts in OTAs, Darling is outplaying him.

We’ll see what happens in camp and during the season.

My money is on Bradley, until proven otherwise… but I think Darling is starting to make a case for himself in the offseason

by stagdsp on Jun 22, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my last depth chart, I had Bradley ahead of him

But some folks pointed out that Darling was taking most of the reps with the 1st team. I was thinking that if I was a wide receiver on this team, I would be trying to develop some chemistry with Cassel right now. That may be a more deciding factor for playing time than the depth chart. We’ll see.
 
Along that vein, I should have had Tony Curtis ahead of Cottam.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even so...

Darling will get his chances at Slot and 3rd WR….our offense will be spreading the wealth. WR 1-4 will all have ample opportunities…

"You can live for Nothing or die for Something, it's your call" - John Rambo

by Matt_Grbac on Jun 22, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's true...

Bowe, Bradley, Darling, Engram should all see plenty of chances (assuming they are all on the roster)

Lawrence and Taurus are the wild cards… if they can show enough, and outplay either Darling or Bradley, they could not only earn a roster spot, but a big role in the offense.

I see Webb as an odd man out…I’m not sure what he brings to the table

by stagdsp on Jun 22, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised they resigned him

being a Herm guy and all. But he is a special teams contributor, so I guess that’s it.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also think LJ will be getting some receptions.

RB was big in the passing game at NE….LJ can catch the ball well so he will probably eat into the % of passes.

"You can live for Nothing or die for Something, it's your call" - John Rambo

by Matt_Grbac on Jun 22, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought the knock on LJ was he wasn't the best receiver

and he couldn’t block anybody. I would think Charles will probably see an increased role in this offense.

by TheQ on Jun 22, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree........

J.Charles is the scat back in this offense,and im hoping he will see alot of looks his way. L.J has never been a good pass blocker, and i think he really just doesnt care about blocking period. J.Charles is a good pass blocker and i would rather see him getting a pass in the flat than L.J.

by CPT.Caveman on Jun 23, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greenwood and Dacus are not making the roster

Nor is Edwin Harrison over Eric Ghiaciuc. Plus, the roster is a wideout short.

by Dagda on Jun 23, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good points

but I explained why I chose Greenwood in the write up above. We have to have some depth on the D line. Dacus may or may not, but with ZT a little long in the tooth, we need somebody there. Unless Ghiaciuc can play guard, why would you keep him and Niswanger and Wade Smith? We have two aging guards, we have to have depth there. And I agree, they may keep 6 WR, but then another position suffers. It is not easy fitting all these guys in the 53. I can see where coaches would love to keep 57 or even 60, We would see a lot more special team “specialists” if they did.

by TheQ on Jun 23, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taurus Johnson and Quinten Lawrence may answer the WR issue.

I think that the Chiefs are going to give these two a very hard look with pads on before going to the well and maybe nabbing a Matt Jones or other…

by hmills110 on Jul 9, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by CPT.Caveman Imo CPT.Caveman Weathered The " HIV 2 ELWAY " SYNDRONE

   F.Y.I. " Rate the task above the prize ; will not the mind be raised ? Fight thine own faults , not the faults of others { " HIV 2 Elway " } ; will not evil be mended ? " – Conficus/65tosspowertrap Welcome To Arrowhead Pride : Welcome in DEED !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

by TheQ I am hesitant to agree with you just to agree w/by TheQ

    { In A Bell Aire Prince Way } Heatwave I will always and forever just kickend baby girL do this everyday from 12pm-6pm 102.5 KTCX fyi (409)8381025 forever & a day over !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree or not agree

that is a question. There is no try. Always and forever is too long.

by TheQ on Jun 23, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I keep opening these fanposts

Thinking there are a ton of new comments with substance and that further the convorstation.

Alas, just crazyness.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jun 25, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's Enough

You were warned about the irrelevant comments and stifling the debate. It’s ceased to be cute and now you’re just wasting our time.

Banned.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.

by UCrawford on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1000

I am soooo glad to be done with that incohesive nonsense.

Thanks UC

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by TheQ What do you think about The Way They Treated DJ JAZZY JEFF ?

   Now that is manic depressive imo ! Any feedback by TheQ { As always ap—pre ’ ci a ted ! #Neda ! The Movement In Motion !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 23, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong.

Misguided on so many levels. Why? No one knows.

wait a minute, DTR would know. Let’s ask him…

by TheQ on Jun 23, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by TheQ by STeve_Chiefs already know about The ? re: DTR on Mi behalf

   { Please Update Me On This Situation ! } Over ! Baby Girl got this end !

by 65tosspowertrap on Jun 24, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Re DTR?: astute and intrusive< But ? OK Dokay ? Worry

Georgia BEE

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 24, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I need to leave

I hurt without intent and my Voice is Shrill. Love this site.
But to……
Steve

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 24, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Updated depth chart

for any roster junkies.

by TheQ on Jun 24, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont know if this was pointed out, or mentioned.

but the Patriots led the league in players who graduated from College. So that might be something you take into consideration if you update it at all in the future.

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jul 5, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that's probably one of those things

that we’ll see an increase on over the next few years for the Chiefs. Although it’s a bit odd, I think it’s a good point. Smarter players with more experience and stability. I don’t necessarily think many here will think it means much, but I think it’s the kind of subtlety that Pioli brings to the table. I think it’s these kinds of things that will ultimately create a great roster.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jul 5, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely think...

we dont ever have to worry about a player with a wonderlick score of 8 like Vince Young as long as Pioli is running the show.

I personally fully buy into the idea of taking as many college seniors as possible, and linebackers like Vrabel have proven that if you are intelligent and work hard you can do incredible things.

Nothing from Nothing leads to... Your 2009 Kansas City Royals

by averagegatsby on Jul 6, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this related to the Supp Draft?

I really don’t think Pioli will attempt to cherry pick these guys.

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jul 7, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washington, Lawrence, (Taurus) Johnson

If you see somebody up for kick returner and nothing else, that’s where these three rookies start looking better. Keep this in mind in your projections. Washington and Johnson are exceptional broken field runners, with kick return possibilities. Lawrence, obviously.

by hmills110 on Jul 9, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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