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Players aren't always the same from one team to another

He may fit better in their scheme; he may be giving more effort in Tampa; no one knows exactly what the answer is for him not performing or being allowed to perform more consistently here. Good luck Jimmy W!

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jun 19, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have enough examples

of players going onto other teams to make impact and/or find roles (i.e, Mitchell, Fujita, Wilkerson, Fox, Beisel, ect.) that it’s just not coincidence. Hey, what do you know – all those names I listed were Gun’s responsibility

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching, coaching, and more coaching.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We

so desperately could have used him last season. Obviously wouldn’t fit into our new scheme, but the guy is a pure football player. He is another example of how the Chiefs drafts haven’t been all that bad the past decade, it’s just our coaches who have been

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But nothing to show

that he wasn’t a bust. Wilkerson is an overachiever, Simms was a mistake. Though I think he’s been right all along about our coaching

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sims was massively overrated, and I was amazed at how fast KC fans fell in love with him leading up to and following the draft, but he did have at least first-day talent. Coaching failed him, as it failed many other talented youngsters in KC.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Balogna

Sims’ doughnut addiction failed him…

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Jun 19, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did it also fail the entire Chiefs defensive line, except Jared Allen, in the entire post-Schottenheimer era? Because that’s how many defensive linemen in KC have looked absolutely terrible. Sims put on weight, but weight alone doesn’t make a top-ten pick at defensive tackle into a worthless turd. The coaching and team atmosphere have been absolutely awful.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not certain this is a positive.

Most of the news out of the Bucs camp isn’t good… beginning with Gruden’s dismissal and spiraling down, out of control… in fact, they may be the dumbest team in football. I wish Wilkerson the best in Tampa, but I just don’t see it.

by Pilcrow on Jun 19, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I like how Domenik

the new GM and Kansas native, chose Talib (KU alum) & Freeman (KSU alum) with his two 1st rounders. Shows his scouting is real comprehensive and thorough..

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and that was PRECISELY why I didn't want him here.

No offense to any college fans here, but the Midwest really is big on school pride to the point where they sometimes tend to make judgments based on it. There were SO many people I talked to during the GM search who wanted him ONLY because he was a KU guy, and if you looked at his resume (i believe it was posted here) is was extremely unremarkable.

Again, I know I’m speaking in generalities, so no offense to KU/college fans in general (I don’t follow NCAA sports at all). Just an observation I once made.

by jbj8609 on Jun 19, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you're trying to tell me that...

Mike Bibby, Gilbert Arenas, and Jason Gardner aren’t some of the best point guards to ever play the game? Thems fightin words…

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arenas

First Sanchez….now Arenas. Since when did you become such a big fan of overrated players? You’re a PAC 10 whore

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 1999...

when I enrolled at the University of Arizona. I have one brother that went to Oregon and another that went to Cal. Got 30% of the Pac10 covered. Conference of champions.

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I quit liking Arizona

during that 40 year span when Miles Simon was playing

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just don't go and badmouth Lute, Lute is God.

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll never forgive him for leaving Iowa

I grew up in Iowa…in love with the Hawkeyes. Lute broke my heart…the bastard! I just wish he’d stayed and won his titles there. Ah well….I guess Arizona winters ARE much nicer. Great coach.

by Zodeman on Jun 19, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I never said that.

I said I don’t watch NCAA…particularly basketball, therefore I don’t know who you’re talking about. ;)

by jbj8609 on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What concerned me about Domenik

was the report that he personally leaked the Chiefs were interested in interviewing him (when such wasn’t the case) just so he could leverage Tampa Bay

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems to me

that he’s buying in to TB’s system and team. I don’t know the guy personally, but it seems like he’s made some strides in maturing his outlook on life. Maybe being let go by a team pushed him to achieve more. In the article, his coach talks about what a hard-worker he’s been this offseason. I don’t know how that compares to his time in Kansas City but it seems like he’s maturing.

by mlschuma on Jun 19, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This guy was a stud

Hopefully the bucs are smart enough to turn him loose.

by DaChefs on Jun 19, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HERM!!!

/not really sure if Herm cut him but I’m fine blamming him

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol

It’s kinda nice have a canned excuse for everything isn’t it?!

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and 99% of the time it was Herms fault

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jun 19, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Works for liberals with GW Bush...

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Works for people with common sense with GW Bush, too.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt you'd find many GOPers that would back G-Dub again, either

Seriously. The party is in shambles right now. GW was a bad president no matter what side of the aisle you were on.

I could get more sacks with my sack

by ArrowSpread on Jun 19, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What cracks me up

is people are just realizing this. About 9 years too late

by KansasCityShuffle on Jun 19, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully

it doesn’t take everyone that long to realize how bad Obama is too!

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How bad is he?

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Own your own business

and you’ll understand. I’ll say this, $251K or more in annual revenue no longer qualifies your business as “small.” How in the hell are you supposed to pay yourself, pay your employees, pay your overhead and pay your taxes all with less than $250,000 a year.

Yes, Bush was bad, he hosed our international image. Obama is working to screw us on the domestic front at a record pace. Yayeee! Let’s increase the ridiculous deficit that Bush left us with eight times over in a 90-day span. Pretty bad in my book.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand frustration on the small business issue, but isn’t the $250K figure net, not gross?

by burntorangehorn on Jun 20, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a moving target

Every time we factor in a deduction it’s taken away by some add-on stipulation. We’re STILL trying to complete 2008 returns because of all the changes in the rules.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 20, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makes me wonder

how any business who didn’t file an extension will avoid retroactive penalties to be completely honest.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 20, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, the larger part of that deficit comes from legacy spending, courtesy of the previous administration, that wasn’t counted in the Bush budgets—namely, bailouts and the Iraq crusade.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 20, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Obama approved stimulus (new social program experimentation) plan

wasn’t Bush legacy. While Bush completely screwed the pooch, Obama took it a massive step further. The chart here is the best visual example I could find. While I realize this is a right-wing publication, the numbers come from the CBO. It’s completely disgusting.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 20, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t believe the GOP voted for him. There’s a reason I abandoned that party in 2000, and it was Bush. He got worse every year. And I don’t see myself rejoining the party—or the dems for that matter—for quite some time, because the party of Rush really has lost it.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly can't disagree with that sentiment one bit.

The sad part is that the dems are nearly as bad by their own rite.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, the GOP is a mess...

I think they’ll continue to be in shambles until they get away from the Bible thumping and get back to a simple message of lower taxes, less taxes, and a strong military.

Still I think as time passes GWB will look better and better. Not that he’ll ever be, or should be, viewed as favorable but he’ll look better. Think about how he said he wanted to “free the people of Iraq,” he was blasted for it. Now look at whats going on in Iran, people taking to the streets demanding their freedom. Maybe that nutty Texan was on to something.

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lower taxes, less spending that is...

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget...

…in 2002, and then particularly 2004 everyone in the “news” media was saying the DNC was in shambles. And, “will they EVER be able to come back and be relevant again?”

Politics and Social Sciences in general, are a continual pendulum swing.

by jbj8609 on Jun 19, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't see how the GOp can remain relevent...

if they don’t get away from all the religious stuff. I don’t see people my age (20’s) ever identifying with or supporting all the Bible thumping nonsense.

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

i’m just saying, people are all caught up in the moment of huge democratic victories, and if they’re anything like the republicans were in 04, it will eventually go to their head and they’ll be the “enemy” again. It happens all the time. nothing new. The GOP will adjust to the position that gives them the best chance of winning (and if that’s becoming more-or-less bound to theological science, so be it) just as the democrats did when they were kicked to the curb.

on a purely political level, though, i agree with you. the GOP has been hijacked by an extremely conservative-christian base that doesn’t appeal to the masses and doesn’t appear to be any time soon. until they cut those ties, they’ll be in limbo.

by jbj8609 on Jun 19, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Dole made a great point this week about the Health Care bill.

The Democrats need to work with the Republicans and add a few of the things that the Republicans want, and not try to ramrod the bill through Congress.

This way when the bill is scrutinized for its failures, which it will have no matter what the Democrats will be able to go back to saying it was a bi partisan bill, and if we had done it our way then we wouldn’t be having these problems.

by ravenhawk on Jun 19, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1000millionbilliontrillion

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell are you talking about?

Obama seems to be playing the religion card more than anyone…And whats bad about it is, he shows zero loyalty to his own “so called christian faith” when he is in the middle East, he claims to be a Muslim, When he is here in the US, he claims to be a Christian.
And it is probably best that you don’t call “bible thumping” nonsense. If you want to talk about your religious beliefs or lack thereof maybe you should find another site to go on ( or maybe I should) because I personally find it quite offensive.
It’s funny how everybody who claims to be a Christian is labeled as some kind of “Bible thumper” Or how everyone who has a conservative point of view has been chastised as of late. Now that we have a Democratic President who is doing everything he can to make Conservatives look like Redneck, gun totin, possum eatin, idiots.
wait till your taxes are so high you have to use Government programs to feed your kids. And then your kids will have to do the same because we cannot pay down our debt to China (who by the way hates the US) so they can’t afford to get a decent education and will just continue on with the neverending cycle of dependency on the government for everything. Then, when people decide they want to take back the country, they won’t be able to because their right to bear arms will have been stripped away from them by President BO.
But hey, it’s all good. It worked out for the USSR didn’t it?

by Chiefsfan1970 on Jun 19, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit dude

talk about being offensive. You say this isn’t the place for politics/religion but then you go on tirade. So wait, this isn’t the place for HIS politics. Just yours.

Just calm down. If you get offended by the term bible thumper, just get over it and ignore it.

And bible thumping is nonsense. =]

From the dirty little rumors thread

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jun 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You’re so out of touch with reality that it’s laughable. When did Obama ever claim to be a Muslim? Really, do you let Rush and Hannity feed you this stuff with a spoon or a bottle?

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol Obama would never claim to be a muslim

You know how many votes he would lose?

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Jun 19, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saudi Arabia was gonna explode.

Still might. But there won’t be 250,000 U.S. troops there, to blame and be a focal point of Saudi rage. HW Bush put ’em there. Clinton let it ride. W Bush got ’em out, which was a huge step forward. Several steps back, since then. Did the rebuilding part on the cheap, with too few men on the ground, and no Marshall Plan to get ’em back on their feet with democratic institutions ready to roll.

But neither of the Bushies were our Daddy’s kind of conservatives. So-called conservatives became the majority party by selling-out on the leftward march in government growth. Expansion of the state and diminution of civil liberties is not conservative, but seems to be the neo-conservative way.

by hmills110 on Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet

our hopey-chief-n-changer won’t say anything about Iran because he’s askeert it will look like we’re meddling.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coming from someone with a lot of familiarity with the Bible...

I don’t think most Republicans have read it. Or many politicians for that matter :)

by LTownChiefsFan on Jun 19, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stronger military? Holy crap, how much do you think needs to be spent? We spend nearly ten times as much on the military as the second-place nation in the world. This is insane.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh. Bipartisan means...

saying yes to big programs and big defense. We the people have asked the question, and all our leaders have done is say “Yes.” Our own fault.

by hmills110 on Jun 19, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. It’s the cost of this brand of democracy.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

what it boils down to is that both parties in this insane two-party system suck.

Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!

by Buck'O on Jun 19, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who’s fault was his under-performance prior to Herm’s arrival? Stoops’?

Okay, I can buy that. I blame Stoops for much of the world’s evils.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You best not be talking about Mike Stoops...

LAS VEGAS BOWL CHAMPS!!!

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobby. The head coach for Wilkerson in college.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although I guess Mike was co-DC when Wilkerson was there, wasn’t he?

by burntorangehorn on Jun 19, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No idea, I could give 2 shits about Stoops before he got to Tucson.

Aint got a beach and I see no mountains.
Landlocked loungin in the City of Fountains

by HIV 2 Elway on Jun 19, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching

My first insticnt is to say it was coaching but there are just too many factors at play to know.

Maybe he improved, maybe the coaching is better, maybe he was in the wrong scheme.

We just need to guys we have to play well and we’ll forget about the guys we lost.

Question for you. If James Harrison had been brought in my the Chiefs, would he be the player he is today? What about Troy P?

Paddy

by Patrick Allen on Jun 19, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Colt playoff game

Wilkerson was totally disruptive as a 3 technique tackle—and the next year they made him an end again. He was always as solid as the coaching was inept.

by FrankPitts on Jun 19, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like another 'tweener who struggled in KC schemes.

Now he’ll be playing DE at 6’2’’ and 265 lbs. Chiefs would’ve tried him this year at LB or nowhere.

by hmills110 on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I said it from the start

we should have never let him go.

by KCMizzou on Jun 19, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He was a good special teamer

herm let him go to replace him with another guy off the street

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jun 19, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was making a joke about 22 guys off the street could win 2 games

LIke Haley said, so Wilkerson had to go because he wasn’t just a guy off the street

Herm is gone things are better with that one move!!

by bringbacktheglory on Jun 21, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can anyone direct me to a good Chiefs website?

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Jun 19, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know I'm breaking the restraining order to keep at least one comment between us

But you no like the Politics and Religeon? At least we are Civil to each other:)

Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying

by Steve_Chiefs on Jun 19, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

underrated

that guy was always making plays when he was here. I didn’t understand why he wasn’t out there more. He was effective at both the tackle and end spots.

also, nice to see a fellow U of A alum here. Go CATS!

by rdub on Jun 20, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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