Larry Johnson Should Pass Priest Holmes as Chiefs All-Time Rushing Leader
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 11:14 AM CDT
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Love him or hate him, Kansas City Chiefs running back Larry Johnson is on the verge of becoming the team's all-time leader in rushing yards. Standing 432 yards behind Priest Holmes, it's safe to assume that Johnson will become the Chiefs rushing leader in 2009.
That is, if he's on the team. Below is a list of the Chiefs top five all time rushing leaders.
| Rank | Name | Yards |
| 1 | Priest Holmes ('01-'07) |
6,070 |
| 2 | Larry Johnson ('03-'08) |
5,638 |
| 3 | Christian Okoye ('87-'92) |
4,897 |
| 4 | Ed Podolak ('70-'77) |
4,451 |
| 5 | Abner Haynes ('60-'64) |
3,814 |
The life of a running back is usually short. It constitutes a stretch of 2-3 years of high level play only to drop off as quickly as it came.
From 2001-2003, Holmes amassed 4,590 rushing yards, or 76% of his career rushing yards in his six year tenure with the Chiefs. He also made three Pro Bowls and three All-Pro teams during that stretch.
From 2005-2006, LJ racked up 3,539 yards, or 63% of his career rushing yards in his six year run with the Chiefs. He also made two Pro Bowls and one All-Pro team in that time.
From 1989-1991, Okoye rushed for 3,317 yards, or 67% of his career rushing yards in his six years with the Chiefs. He made two Pro Bowls and one All-Pro team with the Chiefs.
Ed Podolak never rushed for more than 749 yards in the NFL. He made no Pro Bowls and no All-Pro teams. He's on the career rushing yards list because he played for the team for nine years.
From 1960-1962, Haynes rushed for 2,765 yards in a Dallas Texans uniform. That was 72% of his five year total with the Chiefs.
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Okoye, Podolak and Haynes are all respected members of the Chiefs all-time greats. Priest Holmes had his issues in the eyes of the fans but was still beloved as the star of one of the greatest offensive stretches in NFL history.
There's been a lot of LJ talk around here regarding his future with the Chiefs. Whether you want him to stay or not, it appears that he'll be sitting atop, or near the top, of the Chiefs record books for a long time to come.
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Wow
Wow I can’t believe he’s 432 yards away or Wow is this what we talk about during the offseason? :)
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I cant believe he is 432 yards away . I will actually
feel like a total cock chew if this guy breaks the record and we want him out . hahahah
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
Will you guys just get it over with
and quit flirting aorund with the issue and just proclaim your love for LJ already.
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 6, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
Like Jared in a KC bar
I just can’t stop thinking about him.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
You hate him
because you love him
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 6, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Gary Allan Fan??
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
by Dustin SLO,CA on May 6, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
On a related note
I told one of my buddies about seeing Jared the other day and he said, “So what you’re telling me is that you’re out late at night approaching men?”
I said, “Well, if you put it that way…”
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
No. I will not.
Instead I will re-iterate my desire to get this waste of oxygen human bag of scum OFF the team before he sullies the record of a complete player, and all around gentleman of human that is Priest Holmes.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
Me?
Never
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 6, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
What did you think about his
last stunt with King Carl to get paid? He knew he couldn’t hack it. And he couldn’t. “I had a dream…” = Garbage
Overflowing Man Love For LJ
LJ will have another big season in 2009. My entire section 114 (field level, by the goal line) chants LAR-RY JOHN-SON, every time he steps out on the field. I loved Priest, but LJ will be the best HB in Chiefs history.. Also, LJ will be the biggest Punk in Chiefs history.. If anyone can watch pre game warm ups last year, LJ is the one w/ his shirt untucked, walking around not doing any warm ups, like he was too good.
....I'm drinkin hot tee b!tch, feel me.
shuffle
DOnt get me wrong I love me some lj when he is balling out of control when we have the lead and we are just running the clock out. I love it then . But when we are down he aint getting the touches and the pounts and huggies come out thats when i cant stand the guy . And like i mentioned earlier im slowly trying to get on the lj band wagon its tough but since the tony g loss i think we need this guy more than ever but is he willing to put in the work take off the huggies and be a leader on this team I hope he can .
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
LJ just reminds me of a hot chick
Like she is hot as fuck she dresses up to kill on every date your friends are high fivin you when she walks by your side. But once the money runs low and the times are tough this chick is no where to be found . She thinks her looks and fast moving cut backs can make up for all the hard times you are going threw. SHe just dont do the little things to make a relationship work. Thats lj when the times are good they are good when things get rough taill between his legs walking to the sidelines . no second effort on runs.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
awesome.
I didn’t think you’d pull that one off when I read the headline, but you’re good.
But you forgot, unless you’ve got the good dick, then she’ll stick around. (find a metaphor for that one….LOL)
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
by Dustin SLO,CA on May 6, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Almost perfect
I gotta say ,that was a great comparison, I was feeling you totally , until the last sentance, I think LJ gives 100% on every run… Just not 100% to his team
....I'm drinkin hot tee b!tch, feel me.
He's Not Getting That Record
Mainly because he’s not going to be here when the 2009 season starts off.
1) He’s no longer a primary back, and he’s not a good fit for the system (due to his refusal to pass block). His production has also declined since 2006 (even adjusting for the loss of carries due to suspension) and he’s simply not that good anymore.
2) If we keep him, the guaranteed money in his contract is reinstated. The Chiefs are not going to pay that salary to a part-time back who’s not a good fit for the system. Especially when his attitude went straight south as soon as he got that guaranteed money to begin with. Once he gets that money again, he’s going straight back to being Larry the Malcontent Woman-Beater…because he doesn’t give a shit about anything except getting paid. His actions and behavior have continually demonstrated this.
3) He has a likely suspension in the offing. The Chiefs are not going to pay that salary to a guy who’s not even going to be available to play. Especially since if he gets the guaranteed money back, it’s almost impossible for the Chiefs to recoup it.
They’re keeping him for trade bait…that’s it. If no one will trade for him, he’s getting cut and the Chiefs will pocket the money. He will not be on the opening week roster to start the season. And he will not be getting the record.
As for everyone saying “You talk about him because you love him”…no, we talk about him because there’s nothing else going on right now. Larry Johnson is a piece of shit. Personally, I wouldn’t care if Johnson was a coke-sniffer, a skirt-chaser, a gangster rapper, a drunk, or even just a jerk…I don’t hang out with the guy and his life is his own and don’t care what he does as long as he’s only hurting himself. But he hits women, and he’s not particularly apologetic about it. And that’s where I draw a line. So fuck that guy…I won’t root for him, and I’ll happily point out what he is anytime his apologists come out of the woodwork to say “But the team can’t get by without him”. The team’s won 6 games in the last two years with him on the roster, average running backs (which is all Johnson is now, best-case scenario) are a dime a dozen, and frankly I’m pretty sure that they can win that many games or more without him hanging around and drawing a paycheck here.
Which we should see for ourselves in less than four months.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
Not sure on the suspension
I’ll have to dig around and see exactly what Goodell said.
As far as this goes:
If we keep him, the guaranteed money in his contract is reinstated.
Well…the money is guaranteed because he’s a vested veteran. Any player with more than 4 years of experience automatically has their salary guaranteed if they’re on the opening day roster. This isn’t specific to LJ, it’s all players. He has a $4.55 base salary due in ‘09 and if he’s on the roster he’ll get that. Money isn’t an issue at this point so I wouldn’t use this as a reason why he will or won’t be cut. The 2010 money isn’t an issue in this situation.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Money isn’t an issue at this point so I wouldn’t use this as a reason why he will or won’t be cut.
I disagree. The whole point of the grievance was to keep from HAVING to pay his salary IF he was cut OR traded. If money didn’t matter than the grievance wouldn’t have even been instigated….Pioli would have cut/traded him, paid the money and be on their way.
Pioli did this to make a point. The point is that no-one is bigger than the team. He’ll be D@*&ed if he’s going to let a loose cannon do as he pleases AND STILL pay him.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
LJ filed the grievance
Not Pioli. The Chiefs would be silly not to act on their interpretation of the language that was in the contract. Absolving themselves of the guaranteed money gives them better options when it comes to trading/releasing LJ, but it doesn’t mean he’ll be cut by any means.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually it wasn't LJ it was the NFL players union since Pioli and Co. refused to pay the $$$.
That’s what started it. The refusal to pay.
There’s also the fact that Pioli went after $350K that was ALREADY paid to him alst year that the Chiefs weren’t able to recoup.
They went for the jugular. IF anything, they made a point that he’s at their own will
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
LJ filed it
The NFLPA did not start this (contrary to other reports out there).
He filed it because Pioli was honoring his interpretation of the contract.
But I see what you’re saying…the point is the same.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The NFLPA filed on behalf of LJ I meant to say
But LJ requests it to be made.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a direct quote
From an email exchange between me and the NFL PR dude. I’ll dig it out. But the details aren’t important. I understand what you’re saying.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
LJ in '09
I see where your coming from, I’m sure he will face a possible suspension, but then, cant the Chiefs just file another grievance to not pay him, just do this whole thing over again? Get a free year of LJ? I could be wrong. Correct me if I am.
....I'm drinkin hot tee b!tch, feel me.
cant the Chiefs just file another grievance to not pay him, just do this whole thing over again?
No. It’s part of his contract and he gets the $3.75Mil. if he’s on the opening day roster. They went after the money so that they wouldn’t have to pay him if he was cut or released.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
So?
if and When LJ steps out on the field in ’09, he is then guaranteed his money , the money from ’08 right? and if so, in ’09 if he is suspended again, can the chiefs try and file another grievance to not pay him his ’09 pay?
....I'm drinkin hot tee b!tch, feel me.
by Undaunted_Fish on May 6, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If he steps on the field (or more accurately is active on the roster) the FIRST day he gets his 3.75
There isn’t any money left to pay him for ’08. The arbitration was over the ’09 3.75.
If he gets suspended in ‘09 they can file a grievance for the 3.75 (assumming it was paid to him), but chances are they won’t get it. The reason I say this is the same thing happened when the Falcons tried to get bonus money already paid to Vick. They lost and he kept the cash, but lost everything afterwards.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
I'm still confused by the 3.75
Is that just the amount that was guaranteed? Because, per NFLPA records, he’s due a base salary of $4.55 in 2009.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The Base Salary Was Guaranteed This Year As Well
I think Truth’s referring to the bonus money when he says 3.75. But under the terms of the contract, both were guaranteed for 2009.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
That's correct UC
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
I C said the blind man
But we still pay him last years salary the first game, I get it now. I think
....I'm drinkin hot tee b!tch, feel me.
His Salary For Last Year Has Already Been Paid Out
Under the contract (before it was voided) this year’s salary would be fully guaranteed. Since the Chiefs won the grievance, it’s now not guaranteed, unless they keep him in 2009 (in which case the contract is reinstated).
There’s no guarantee the Chiefs would win another grievance against him…in fact it’s highly unlikely. So if the contract is brought back, the Chiefs have no leverage at all to get Larry Johnson to comply with their wishes once he’s getting paid. And let’s not forget, he was still demanding a trade right up until he lost his grievance…he’s putting on a good face now because he knows there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that he’s seeing that kind of money from anyone else and he’s hoping the Chiefs do reinstate him so he can get paid what he thinks he deserves.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
Yep
And let’s not forget, he was still demanding a trade right up until he lost his grievance…he’s putting on a good face now because he knows there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that he’s seeing that kind of money from anyone else
And just to refresh everyone’s memory about what he said BEFORE he lost the arbitration. Again, BEFORE he lost the 3.75
“I just think it’s time for us to break ties, and you know, they can go on and find what they want, and I can try to go on and rebuild my career and find what I want,”
“I’d rather just, you know, play somewhere else, because like I said, you know, this is a rebuilding team, you know, and I don’t really think I belong in this rebuilding team,”
Oh, he loves the fans too…all you LJ lovers:
“I would walk through, you know, wherever I was at, it would be the mall or just be out, and you would hear boos, you would hear snickering, people not understanding what goes on in my life. But you know, that’s Kansas City, you know?”
“The rumor mill builds and the jealousy and the envy kind of starts and you usually, you feel trapped. At a point, I didn’t even want to leave my house.”
Oh, yeah…we’re Allllll jealous of LJ…yeah, that’s it. Keep telling yourself that instead of the fact that maybe it’s because you’re abusive to women.
I bet the owner of “Blonde” down on the plaza wishes you’d stayed home.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
It keeps running through my brain and I have to post it before Larry is old news or gone and I miss my chance.
I miss the days of player loyalty and team loyalty. I miss players playing for the love of the game. When Larry Johnson was drafted, I remember reading an interview with him in the Kansas City Star, saying that he didn’t care about his rookie contract… Just give him a house and two dogs and he was ready to play football!. That made me absolutely love him!
I’ve done a 180 on him now. I dislike him and will only tolerate him now if it is in the best interest of the Chiefs.
How times have changed!
Ummmm
You mean like back in 1919 when the owner of the Chicago White Sox cheated his players in contract negotiations and reneged on terms so he wouldn’t have to pay bonuses and the players then conspired to throw the World Series?
Pro sports have always been about business. People like to talk about “the good old days” like that wasn’t the case, but it was…there was never a point at which players and owners weren’t trying to make money and looked out for their own interests. It makes for nice nostalgia to claim that there was an era where players and owners cared about “the team” more than themselves, but it wasn’t reality.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
Or
Prior to the existence of the NFLPA when certain owners wouldn’t even give the players new or clean uniforms for practice every week?
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Happened In Baseball Too
The 1919 White Sox were nicknamed the “Black Sox” because Comiskey tried to charge them for laundering their uniforms and they refused to pay. So they played in unwashed uniforms.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
ewww
....I'm drinkin hot tee b!tch, feel me.... - Lil' Wayne
by Undaunted_Fish on May 6, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a Romantic.
I love humility and greatness, such as Tony Gonzalas exhibited. I love loyalty, which Tony lacked, to the degree I’d like to see. I love the idea of player retiring from a team they played with for their whole career, which doesn’t happen much anymore. I also love a player who wants to play football because he loves it and money is secondary. I hate hold outs. Obviously money is always a factor. I’m not naive, just a romantic. My comment is that Larry’s attitude seems to have done a 180 turn around and so has my (our) opinion of him.
Hard to hate him
I find it hard to crucify LJ when I wasn’t there and I didn’t see any of the transgressions. I am sure there was wrongdoing, but I can’t take my hatred to the level of UCrawford unless he is convicted.
As far as last season…..LJ sucked because he was the prima donna of the team….nuff said. Say what you want about vermiel but he didn’t coddle LJ, and LJ produced. I really think that if you push LJ he will produce, and produce big. Herm just didn’t do that in my eyes, in any way shape or form.
As far as this year, if he is with the team, which I could see it either way……let Haley get in his face and light a fire and may still have a year or 2 in the tank. Why cut him? Money at this point isn’t the issue but just give him to another team….? Like Pioli says….its not up to him if he plays here or not, he is under contract. Piss him off, light a fire, and lets see what he has.
What would it take?
Larry Johnson admitting in a court of law that he is guilty? Because he did that on March 27th. I wasn’t there either but when LJ pleads guilty, I’m going to believe the police report.
by Joel Thorman on May 6, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
If LJ finshes out his contract,
I think the Don should woo Larry Johnson Sr. away from Penn State to come here to straighten out Jr. and replace “Slap-Fight” Krumrie as D-Line coach.
I've been rapping for about seveteen years okay? I don't write my stuff anymore I just kick it from my head you know what I'm sayin? I can do that. No disrespect but that's how I am.
Violence Against Women Is Usually A Learned Behavior
Frankly, if Larry Johnson Sr. didn’t put his son on the right path when he started threatening women, I see no reason to believe he’ll do so now. Either Johnson Sr. has no influence on his adult son or doesn’t really care what the guy does. Besides, you’re not talking about a 6 year old anymore…if he doesn’t know right from wrong by now, he’s probably never going to. All the remorse bullshit he spouts in the press is just about getting the fans and team off his back, not about him wanting to change or help the Chiefs. As soon as the season was over he was demanding to jump ship.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
4. Larry Johnson has already played his last meaningful game for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's gone before the 2009 season starts.
I vaugley remeber that...
Didn’t start pulling some scarface quotes and end up saying some pretty rude things about the fans and KC in general?
Seriously though. F-ck LJ. He would have to be the best RB in the league for me to ignore all of his glaring issues.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on May 6, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
What have you done for me lately?!?!?
If LJ breaks Priests record week 4 on a 63 yard run, I’ll be right back on the bandwagon cheering him on.
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on May 6, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions
You all realize that Priest did this in 65 games with the Chiefs and LJ is already at 68 games?
Just saying. LJ is 432 yards behind, yet Priest did it in a shorter period of time.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Priest is the man
LJ doesnt belong a top the KC rushing list. I hope he finds some lady’s face to spit in again, so he wont break this record. F the guy, let him go, sign James and call it a night.
Off subject...
Holtzclaw appears to have not been signed yet and there was NO mention of him at the rookie mini camp. In fact the Lions signed Spencer Smith a LB from Eastern Michigan.
If the Lions don’t have a spot for him, who will??
He must not be that good.
Not Sure
He was invited to their rookie mini-camp. We changed the language in our article about an hour after posting to reflect that.
The Chiefs were supposedly interested.
This makes me very angry.
LJ already owns several KC records, most notably (and notoriously) the record for assaulting women. Not that we ever kept tallies on that sort of behavior before LJ… there was no real reason to do so.
I am praying that Pioli decides to deal this clown before the season starts. If not, I will still wear my Priest jersey to the games with pride—the best RB we ever had.
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