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Chiefs UDFAs: Bobby Greenwood

Alabama defensive end Bobby Greenwood is one of many undrafted free agents the Kansas City Chiefs are rumored to be bringing in for off season training activities and the team's rookie mini-camp this weekend.

As is the tradition around here, I'll be looking at most of these undrafted free agents and deliver as much info as I can on them. And future posts will be better, as real life has rudely interrupted again this morning. What's a blogger to do?

This may seem like a lot of work for players who probably won't make the team but you know what? These posts always show up first in Google after I write them.

So who is Bobby Greenwood?

Bobby is a 6'6", 245 6’6" 278 (H/T alakan81) pound defensive end from Prattville, AL. I say defensive end but Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide used him in a couple of different positions on the defensive line.

In his four year career at Alabama, he didn't exactly rack up the most impressive stats:

Season Year GP GS Solo Asst TT TFL Sacks FF FR INTs PD QBH
'05-'06 12 0 9 6 15 5.0 3.0 0 0 0 1 5
'06-'07 13 3 11 16 27 5.0 2.5 1 0 0 0 3
'07-'08 12 5 8 12 20 4.5 1.0 0 0 0 0 1

 

For the life of me, I can't find Greenwood's 2008 full season stats. To cover that 2008 gap in stats, here's what NFL Draft Scout had to say about his '08 season:

Greenwood has been a play-maker at defensive end in his senior campaign ... possesses a good pass rush and is great against the run ...third-team All-SEC selection by Phi Steele ... Greenwood’s knowledge and experience has been a big asset to the Tide’s defensive front in 2008 ... has a team-high 4.0 sacks on the season to rank tied for 20th in the SEC (.31) ...Greenwood had 2.5 sacks and eight tackles against Arkansas State and LSU... has 35 tackles on the year with a team-high seven quarterback hurries and 5.0 TFL (-24).

What interest could Scott Pioli, Todd Haley and Clancy Pendergast have in Greenwood beyond the typical training camp fodder?

Here's an interesting fact: the Alabama defense played a base 3-4 defense last year that they switched up positions a lot in. The Crimson Tide shifted Greenwood to a nose tackle position for certain passing plays.

Is this the Chiefs' interest in Greenwood? A possible backup nose tackle for the team's new hybrid defense?

Perhaps. Chances are Greenwood doesn't make the 53-man roster in September but that's not going to stop us from talking about these guys.

Chime in Greenwood if you're a Bama fan who has seen him play.

After we go through these UDFAs, you're going to sound smarter more obsessed than you probably want to sound.

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Hey this is new....Good morning!

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on May 5, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good report

I like his versatility. Keep these coming, this is good stuff!

by RedNose on May 5, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh...

I don’t think he can be a backup NT at 245 lbs.

by Dono on May 5, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

...

Exactly…

He’d more likely be a back-up predator since he’s so underweight.

by DCJayhawk57 on May 5, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

245 is too small

for even DE in the 3-4.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on May 5, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's got the height

Maybe they’re hoping he puts on weight. I don’t know.

by Joel Thorman on May 5, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT can be done.....see Karl Mecklenburg

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on May 5, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just casting a wide net

Our defense was so atrocious last year, Pioli and Co are looking anywhere they can for defensive players who can perform. They obviously feel that our D-line needs to be built with young players who will be here for years to come and that our LBs can be re-hashed vets from 3-4 defenses (I think they’ll bring in Foote). This kid likely won’t make the 53 man roster but it doesn’t hurt to give him a chance.

by Chiefs4Life on May 5, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Foote would be a great pickup.

Very solid LB with tons of playing time ahead of him.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on May 5, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At 6'6 and 245 lbs

He’d almost have to be working out as a linebacker. He’s way to skinny (at least at this point) to be anything else. Although if he can bulk up over the next couple years, he could eventually move to the D-line. If he ends up being a good special teamer then it will definitely help him.

by Vince D on May 5, 2009 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

at 6’6, 245 he sounds like a LB. The article said he has good pass rushing skills, maybe the idea is to move him to OLB.

by BeijingKCfan on May 5, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Using a player like this at NT could be a New England, outside the box move.

They loved to use 1 and 2 down lineman in nickel packages, and would sometimes use Jarvis Green as an inside penetrator on obvious passing downs, with 5 linebackers blitzing or dropping back all over the field.

Not saying Bobby Greenwood will do anything, but I like that they’re looking at these guys who can do some different things.

by RedNose on May 5, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but

Pendergast is running our defense, not Scott Pioli or anyone from NE. Pioli is just picking a lot of the players. Is anyone familiar with any “in’s & outs” of his defense, because I have no idea how this guy would fit in that set.

by DCJayhawk57 on May 5, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure Pioli will be asked for his input

he is wearing three Super Bowl rings

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on May 5, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pioli and Haley are running the team though

I doubt Pendergast would’ve been brought in if they didn’t feel like he could be pretty flexible and organic with his defensive philosophies.

by RedNose on May 5, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he weighs 245

but played some NT, maybe he’s ridiculously strong for his size.

If he makes the team, it will probably be as a backup OLB/special teamer, but I like the idea of replacing Tank as the NT in the 4-3 under with a quicker guy on 3rd and longs

I still really have no idea whether we will be in the 3-4 or the 4-3 under more…god I can’t wait for Game One.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on May 5, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure either

But it gives me great comfort to know that the days of Herm’s cover 2 are over.

Do you think just changing schemes will be enough to help turn some numbers around?

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on May 5, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will help

as will getting some new D linemen and different LBs (though they are old). The defense that takes the field this year will be completely different than last year’s with the exception of personnel in the secondary, but as you say, they will be playing a different scheme. A more aggressive scheme. I’m not expecting our D to be top-10 but it should be improved from last year.

by Chiefs4Life on May 5, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey you know what they say…there is only one way to go!

by Zimmy on May 5, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe not changing schemes

but replacing Pat Thomas with Zach Thomas and replacing Rocky Boiman with Mike Vrabel is a HUGE upgrade.

I cannot emphasize enough how much our lack of talent at Linebacker hamstrung our entire defense last season.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on May 5, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

AND, the upgrades on the Defensive Line should allow the LB to perform this year

by stagdsp on May 5, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think thats...

going to be Magee’s job come fall. There is no way this kid can play on the defensive line in the NFL.

by I_Bleed_Red. on May 5, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pass Rusher

Looks like to me he is an OLB hand down type pass rusher. Also an interesting projection to put him down on the line on 3rd downs inside. I see it as an experiment and project, but hey why not. Plus just looking at his frame I think he could put on 25 pounds of muscle pretty easily, if he can keep speed with that could be an interesting prospect.

If he can make an impact on special teams while we find out…….then I say keep him for a year and see how he can develop. I probably get way too excited about these type of signings, but its amazing to me how many good players are in the league that were undrafted or low rounders, and how many high rounders never make an impact. For some reason this kid interests me in the ways that he might be effective.

by Zimmy on May 5, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Those measurables are probably from when he came to ‘Bama out of high school. As a senior, he was listed at 6’6" 278. He’s really beefed up since Nick Saban replaced Mike Shula a few years ago.

He is not really a guy that could play on his feet, like some here have suggested. He’s fairly quick in a straight line, but really a guy with a great deal of lateral mobility. Definitely a high-motor guy who plays his assignments to a ‘T’ and and is excellent against the run. A key thing with him is that he plays to the whistle and will chase plays downfield even after the ball passes the line of scrimmage. He did play a hybrid DE/DT role in Saban’s defense: he would squeeze down to DT when the OLB/DE ‘Jack’ linebacker came up and played with a hand down. So, yes, he brings the versatility that Pioli likes.

Greenwood’s role in the ’Bama’s defense was actually fairly similar to what the Chiefs want out of Tyson Jackson. Play the run, tie up blockers, force plays outside to the linebackers, and generate some pressure, but not necessarily many sacks.

To me, he’s still a work-in-progress, physically speaking: He can still get bigger and stronger. Athletically, though, I don’t think he has huge upside. He will work hard in whatever they ask him to do

by alakan81 on May 5, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Thanks for the info!

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on May 5, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a picture of what Greenwood looks like these days. I’m fairly certain the picture above was from his sophomore year.

by alakan81 on May 5, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is that he's about to eat?

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on May 5, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I love how the O-lineman is looking back like

“Oops…sorry I just let that guy run right by me”

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on May 5, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

About the O-lineman looking back..

O CRAP was he my responsibility?

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on May 5, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arkansas St. QB who’s name I cannot recall.

by alakan81 on May 5, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Positive

No, that picture is from the 2008 season homecoming game against Arkansas State. ‘Bama hasn’t played Texas Tech since the Cotton Bowl after the ’05 season, when Greenwood was a true freshman.

I looked it up and the kid being tackled is named Corey Leonard.

by alakan81 on May 5, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job man......

especially about the research part, NICE!

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on May 5, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks alakan

I was reading the previous posts on my blackberry talking about what a terrible pickup this guy is cause they thought he weighed 245. It killed me that i couldn’t post and make everybody realize that Bobby is around 285-295 these days.

Greenwood will be good NFL imo, he was steady but not spectacular @ bama. That is fine with me when it comes to a DL, espcially a DT. Eat up blockers, take down doubles and play the run…thats a good DL, great value considering he can play both positions in our defense and he is an UDFA.

Bottom line: good, versatile FOOTBALL player, hard worker, experianced and a big dude. Good pick up.

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on May 5, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And just to prove without doubt that I'm a 'Bama homer...

Don’t sleep on Wallace Gilberry, who’s on the roster from last year. He played in the 3-4 at ‘Bama for a year and was pretty productive at the ’true’ DE spot opposite from Greenwood.

He’s undersized and not very athletic, but he doesn’t quit and he’s versatile.

That being said, he’s probably more likely to get cut than Greenwood is.

by alakan81 on May 5, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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