Kansas City Chiefs Waive Linebacker Brian Johnston
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:08 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs have placed linebacker Brian Johnston on waivers according to Bob Gretz. (Here's a good definition of waivers. For our purposes, waiving means he's been cut.)
Johnston was a seventh round draft pick by GM Carl Peterson in 2008. He was labeled a 4-3 defensive end when drafted, but was forced to outside linebacker in Todd Haley's 3-4 scheme.
Since Johnston is not a four year veteran, he will enter waivers. As Gretz points out, don't be surprised if the Detroit Lions make a claim on him. They're first in line and new defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham comes from the Chiefs.
His career totals include three tackles on defense and one on special teams. His season ended on November 12th when he was placed on injured reserve for a calf injury.
According to NFLPA records, Johnston was due a base salary of $385,000 in 2009 and $470,000 in 2010.
As excited as we were for the Chiefs 12 man 2008 draft class, only eight remain. Joining Johnston in the Pioli purge is KR Kevin Robinson, TE Michael Merritt and WR Will Franklin.
33% of the Chiefs 2008 draft class is gone. That's a fourth rounder, sixth rounder and two seventh rounders.
H/T KansasCityShuffle in the FanShots
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let the “we cut him to pick up Greg Ellis” comments role
BTW FIRST
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
First is for bitches
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I had hopes for Johnston, but of course it’d be silly to keep him or the other players who don’t fit the sub-par defensive coaches’ system.
by burntorangehorn on May 27, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions
Who's next?
Any bets on who the next draft choice to cut will be from that class?
If I was B-Rich and DaJuan I’d starting busting my ass something fierce (if I wanted to remain a Chief)
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
Don't ruin my next post idea! :)
I bet we see a couple more…
All the no-name guys are gone. 4th, 6th and two 7th rounders.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not anymore
Carr’s going nowhere. Charles, Flowers and Dorsey are staying.
Maybe DaJuan Morgan but I would imagine they would want to see what they have first.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
If you haven’t been in the league for four years (fully vested veteran), then you are placed on waivers. This means that each team (in draft order, so the Lions would be the first) has a shot to sign him to his current contract.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
He pretty much has nothing to do with the Chiefs now.
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
Added a link up at the top of the post for you.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If he clears waivers, KC can put him on the practice squad. I’d like to see it happen.
by burntorangehorn on May 27, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Change the math
25% are gone, 75% remain. Looks a little less drastic that way.
Math was always tricky for me :)
Thanks.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't we have to carry a 2 somewhere
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh my gosh
This is getting embarrassing…changed…..again. :) Thanks guys.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol
how did this rumor get started? Maybe I shouldn’t be adding fuel to it…
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
connerman made a joke in his post the other day
It was just a joke. As far as I know, Brian Johnston’s mom did not come on here.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I caught that
as referenced in my fanshot, but thought it went deeper since Wrestler was asking about it
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It was TheQ's Mom
who came on here and was trying to tell us all how much potential he has. How embarassing
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Q.
I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.
by DThomasReigns on May 27, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah
Just caught that joke in the 1st comment.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes a little high
sometimes a little low, but the jokes are always there (no matter how lame)
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo Momma
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Dang I really liked Johnston
As a 7th rounder though, I probably should have known better than to have such high hopes for him. I bet Gun picks him up in Detroit.
I agree with the people who think Barry Richardson is next to be cut.
I think the jury should still be out on Richardson
I have never heard anything but good things about him. He was supposed to be a monster coming out of the draft. Also, I don’t think it is as much of a scheme thing when talking about o-linemen vs defense. He obviously has the size to make it as a tackle and seems to have everything to do the job. As long as he is able to stay healthy, he should be a good player. Right?
by Chiefsfan1970 on May 28, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
too bad
I had high hopes for him, too.
Not sure what the logic is… but it could mean one of three things:
1) he just wasnt’ cutting it, and it was obvious he wouldn’t improve
2) they REALLY like some of the other guys at that position (Hali, robertson, Studebaker)
3) they needed the roster spot for a FA pickup that will be announced soon
I like #3
Then they could sign Ellis =]
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I like #2
I was about to type earlier that D-Rob’s chances just a got a little brighter
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm good either way, #2 or #3...
But, I’m surprised that these guys are getting cut so early in the game… seems like they could have kept them through training camp to really see what they can do.
Pioli and Co could also be making a strong statement with these cuts… making an example.
I just hope they aren’t just purging draft picks because they were made by the prior administration
It appears Herm was almost as poor a talent evakuator as he was a Head Coach. I didn’t think that possible, but once competant personnel guys like Pioli and Haley get a look at this supposed A+ draft class, they’re dropping like flies.
To be fair
The system has changed so some of these guys don’t fit because of that.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a good draft class
The 2008 class DID produce several starters or contributors (Dorsey, Flowers, Albert, Charles, Cottam, Carr)
the guys being cut were the “developmental guys”
Morgan is the only other non-starter that remains.
But, 75% IS a good percentage to retain from a draft class.
AND, the system has changed, so some of these guys just dont’ fit, which is to be expected
I say, IF they get 6 new starters out of 12 draft picks, that’s at least an A if not an A+.
despite the cuts
If the Chiefs ever get to a super bowl the announcers will look back and say “damn that 2008 class is really the backbone of this team. They found 6 starters in Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, Cottam, Alberts, Charles (possibly 7 if B Rich pans). If ever there was a building block to start off of, especially with 2 draft choices on the opposing sides of the line, it would be that draft class.”
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Not so fast
Dorsey’s gotta fit in the new system. Cottam has never started for the Chiefs. We have no clue if he’ll pan out. Charles appears to be a complementary back at this point IMO.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
true
but it’s still a keen possibilty
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I think
They will MAKE him fit. But, if they only use him partially do you think we would be better off trading him?
I’m sure Cottam will do fine since he can block and Haley isn’t a huge TE guy.
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Haley wasn't a TE guy because
AZ didn’t have a Tony type TE and they had 2 pro bowl WR’s. Alot of teams only use TE to block because a TE like Tony are hard to find.
by bringbacktheglory on May 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Cottam is so overhyped its ridiculous.
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
however
Haley uses his TE’s as blockers more than receivers. So Cottam is actually pretty ideal considering he was the best blocking TE in his draft class
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
4th round blocking TE
Not ideal IMO but what we’ve gotta live with.
by Joel Thorman on May 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't
Think its ideal for anybody…
but the pick was from Edwards so…
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Next years draft
Is filled with more talent right? With all that talent where do you think we will end up needing most? Or do we still need the same as we did this year?
I'm betting
with 8 picks we go guard 2x, NT, linebacker 2x, wide receiver, RB, and maybe a late round TE
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I think its...
only 7 picks. We traded next yrs 7th for O’Connell right? And yeah I really like the 2010 draft class. It is way more top heavy. My favorite players right now are Brandon Spikes (ILB, Florida), Eric Berry (S, Tennessee), Taylor Mays (S, USC) and Witherspoon (OLB, Missouri). We can get those guys anywhere from 6 to 20.
by I_Bleed_Red. on May 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I've heard
of a couple of those guys. Hopefully we snatch up some good players to finally get this team upright.
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't we get a pick for Tony in '10?
by stenerud's roost on May 27, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
7 rounds - o'connell + tony still = 7 my bad
prime, it’s contagious all this bad math
by stenerud's roost on May 27, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
We got a 2nd rd pick in 2010. We have 7 picks. one in the 1st, two in the 2nd, and one in rounds 3-6. Our 7th we traded away in this draft.
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
that's right
totally forgot about that.. Then consider my late TE prospect O’Connel lol
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Yeah.
Off subject but do you think ATL would still have been up for the trade for TG if we had done like the Favre trade. As in it depends how good he does and how high the pick would be worth.
by Wrestler189s on May 27, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
No way
ATL has Thomas Dimitroff as a GM. He knows the value of draft picks and he knows that TG is a baller. If we set a conditional pick as the trade there is little doubt that with Michael Turner, Matt Ryan, and Roddy White all on the same side of the ball that Tony G would meet every incentive necessary to land us their 2010 first.
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
We haven't lost anyone important from this draft yet...
If we lose one of the 3rd round picks or higher, than I might be disapointed…
Exactly.
If we lose Morgan I’ll be pretty disappointed. Since we had Pollard and Page I was really angry when we blew a 3rd rounder on a safety when our O-line needed help badly. If he doesn’t perform it will just make me even more angry.
+1
"From Kansas City, I miss home, Cali is business but man its pretty"
by KansasCityShuffle on May 27, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
2009 Sacks
Bets on Brian Johnston having more sacks on his new team this year than Tyson Jackson? (Not that sacks are the be all and end all.) Perhaps Johnston wasn’t all the way back from last year’s injury or out of shape. Mostly, he probably didn’t fit the system. Can’t really see him as an OLB.
he's fast
he actually clocked one of if not the best 40’s amongst DE’s in the 4.5 range last year. He would make for a deadly rush linebacker with those long arms and finesse movements in my opinion
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Great, we just lost a tenth of our sack production from last year.
So, last year when we all though we were having a heck of a draft, Belichick and Pioli would listen to the Chief’s pick and start laughing uncontrollably, saying “Poor Herm, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing!”
Man, Brian’s Mom and me had really high hopes for him this season.
:)
It's ok. She still has high hopes for you, Q ;)
Little known fact: Brian’s mom is a cougar. ggrrrrrrrr.
I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.
by DThomasReigns on May 27, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad somebody does!
I need all the help I can get.
I might have to mention Brian’s Mom in my memoirs…
I think that deserves its own naughty memoir. :)
And it must start with
"Meanwhile, at the Playboy Club", that is how I start all my memoirs.
Like the rest.. :)
I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
Erykah Badu is on notice. Amel Larrieux is catching up to you quickly. Let me see what you got, Erykah.
by DThomasReigns on May 27, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't everybody start it out like that?
I haven’t decided what to call the latest one. Either “Bourgeiose on Bourgeoisie” or “Kickin’ It With the Q”. I could go with either one.
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