Over/Under: How Many Sacks Will the Chiefs Have in 2009?
by Chris Thorman on May 26, 2009 12:46 PM CDT
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You may or may not have heard that last year the Kansas City Chiefs were, let's say, historic in their inability to sack the quarterback.
The Chiefs' 10 sacks last year was the lowest number of sacks made by a team in NFL history. The previous low - 11 by Baltimore in 1982 - happened during a strike shortened nine-game season. I'm still not sure why people don't mention that more often when talking about the team's inability to get to the quarterback.
All I have to say is that Jared Allen guy...He was good.
Of course, with defensive line additions in the first two picks in the draft, we're hoping that the Chiefs blow past last year's sack mark within the first half of the season.
Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee, while not pass rush specialists themselves, should take pressure off of other defensive line and linebacker positions to create more pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
Here are previous year's sacks totals to help you gauge your guess:
| Year | 1996 | 1997 | 1998 | 1999 | 2000 | 2001 | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 |
| Sacks | 31 | 54 | 40 | 40 | 51 | 31 | 34 | 36 | 41 | 29 | 32 | 37 | 10 |
My guess is 21 sacks, because it's not that many sacks off the team's yearly average and because we simply cannot, must not be as dismal as last year with our defensive pass rush. Tyson Jackson gets a couple of sacks. Tamba Hali and Glenn Dorsey will do the same. We won't have a sack specialist on this defense but I believe that four or five players can get about four or five sacks a piece.
So...what's the over/under on sacks for the Kansas City Chiefs in 2009?
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by craig in calgary on May 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
I'll say 25.
That being said, I’m not sure where they are coming from
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on May 26, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
36
I think they’ll come from Hali (8), Vrabel (6), Johnston (4), Dorsey (5), Jackson (5), Pollard (3) Flowers or Carr (1), DJ (4)
That would be a much improved, well rounded defense, with no “superstar” but a good scheme that creates pressure.
30... Where will they come from? Spread out.
Over Pendergast’s five seasons as defensive coordinator, the Cardinals racked up 148 total takeaways (77 INTs, 71 FRs) and 180.0 sacks (2.25 per game). That’s 36 sacks per year. The sack leaders at last year’s AZ Cardinals came mostly from the line. In 2008, the players with 3 or more sacks were: Bertrand Berry 4 (RDE), Darnell Dockett 4 (UT), Travis LaBoy 4 (RDE), Chike Okeafor 4 (SLB), Antonio Smith 3 (LDE).
Here are my guesses for the Chiefs in 2009.
DLE Tyson Jackson (1), Turk McBride (1)
NT Tank Tyler (2), Ron Edwards (1), T.J. Jackson (1)
DRE Glenn Dorsey (3), Alfonso Boone, Alex Magee (1)
LOLB Tamba Hali (3), Brian Johnston (2)
LILB Zach Thomas (3), Mike Vrabel (2), Corey Mays
RILB Demorrio Williams (2), Andy Studebaker
ROLB Derrick Johnson (2), Monty Beisel, Weston Dacus
LCB Brandon Carr (2), Travis Daniels, Donald Washington
RCB Brandon Flowers (1), Maurice Leggett (1), Ricardo Colclough
SS Bernard Pollard (1), DaJuan Morgan
FS Jarrad Page (1), Jon McGraw
I think 30 is high, but I also see sacks coming from a number of different people. Will these coaches send more than the D line after the QB this season? I hope so, even though I realize stopping the run is a priority. And 30 is still slightly less than 2 per game.
That being said
I’d wager my sack could rack up somewhere in the 50 range. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the Chiefs are at least half that good and they put up anywhere from 25-30.
I could get more sacks with my sack
20-25
sacks are going to come from greater coaching and play calling. 2010 will be a breakout year as player ability coupled with play calling will greatly improve sack numbers.
"stuck in Dallas"
not to mention
our 08 rookies should be badass by then
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
30+
Players will come into their own, and we will be tougher against the run so the other team should be throwing more. That will mean more chances for sacks.
over 30
We now have players with 2-3 years experience on the line, we just made some serious upgrades in talent, I think our coaching will be much better and a better scheme for who we have. Nobody really says it, but I think there must have been a lot of behind-the-scenes tension amongst the coaching staff last year and I believe that is what lead to our greatest downfall. Gun was not Herm’s pick for D coordinator, and I think there was always friction there. Especially now when you hear him talk shit about the way Herm wanted things done. With that behind us, I think people may be surprised by the Chiefs this year. Or should I say I hope they’ll be surprised. Or maybe I should say I just hope to hell we don’t suck again.
21.5
No chance in hell we triple our sack total from last year.
I do not snort the coke I only smoke...sensimilla.
New scheme, new DC, new personnel, and 30's not a huge number
The lions got 31 last year, anything’s possible.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on May 26, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
law of small numbers?
it’s pretty easy to triple a total, when that total is 10
it’s not easy to triple a total when that number is 35
I say the jump from 10 to 35 is pretty likely
I'll take the under on 26.5 (splitting our picks) if you want some action.
New scheme and all, we still don’t have a legit threat on the edges.
I do not snort the coke I only smoke...sensimilla.
how many sacks will jon mcgraw bag in a year ?
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by sexassassin on May 26, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Nicely done, sex.
I don't have religion, I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
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by DThomasReigns on May 26, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
paper or plastic?
fewer if it’s paper. even less if BYOBag really catches on.
by sunny D on May 26, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
24 sacks
We won’t be abysmal, but I don’t think we’ll necessarily turn heads either.
by GonzosDirtyTrailer on May 26, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions
With a new system....we can expect....
You would say that there should be an increase with a whole new system in play. New offense and defense will play factors on the teams play. I would guess that we would have increase of about 10 to 18 more sacks from last year. So I would say anywhere from 20 to 28 sacks this coming year. Now if for some reason we were to get a free agent sack specialist that total may go up another 3 to 7 sacks.
Over 20
Under 30
34
I figured Vrabel’s age during the season is nice, round number. Actually, considering our two “new” LBs are in their mid-30s, Hali has shown little promise as a premiere rusher, and our two drafted D-linemen are “block-eaters”, I’d say we’re lucky to get 24.
My take
Based on Sacks allowed in 2008, Hey numbers don’t Lie
Kansas City Chiefs sacks vs team in 2009:
Denver x2 games Orton’s Bear sack total – 4 total
San Diego x2 games – 3
Raiders x2 games – 5
Ravens – 2
Eagles – 1
Washington – 3
Dallas – 2
Steelers – 3
Browns – 2
Bills – 2
Bengals – 3
Total looks like = 30
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
Missed somebody
NY Giants – 1
Jacksonville – 3
Revised = 34 KC Chiefs sacks in 2009
My Bad :(
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on May 26, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
True :)
Let's Kick some ASS in 09 or Die trying
by Steve_Chiefs on May 27, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
One amazing thing I drew from this post
We had 27 more sacks the year before and it only equalled 2 more wins. I feel that’s pretty interesting data, is sacking the QB more important than stopping the run or the other way around.
Personally, I gotta go with stopping the run, and it seems like that is what our new defense is designed to do. Sacks are sexy but stopping the run equals wins.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on May 27, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
Stopping the run
You can’t really sack the qb if you can’t stop the run.
That was really our problem last year. We couldn’t stop the run so it really opened up the passing game for the teams playing against us. When they have the constant threat of the run we have to account for it even on passing downs. Then when we would finally get teams in definate passing situations, we backed everyone up in coverage and gave the qb time to find holes.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
I have no idea how many sacks we get this year...
all I can say is man do I miss the late 90’s and whatever the number of sacks we get it better be more than last year.
Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?
34
I am going with 34 lead by Derrick Johnson with 12. Seriously? Yep. He has always been close but not there. This year…. oh..this year… is it. We have a serious shot to win the division. San Diego is good.. (did i just say that), the broncos are stupid with poor personnel management leaving them with no quarterback, and the raiders will win 5 maybe six. We win our division games minus 1 to san diego and we are in. Sounds easier than it is.
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