Chiefs' Chances at a Trade Down with the Eagles Dwindling?

by Joel Thorman on Apr 8, 2009 9:15 AM CDT Comment 17 comments

Could Chad Johnson put a damper on the Chiefs trade down plans?

When we've been talking about what the Kansas City Chiefs should do with the 3rd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, a common scenario continues to come up that involves trading down. We've looked at other top ten pick trades in previous drafts and concluded that two first round picks would be the starting point for any trade down scenario.

The Lions, Broncos and Eagles have two first round picks. The Lions have the 1st and 20th picks so they're not a realistic trading partner for the Chiefs. I've hashed out my reasons why I don't think the Broncos are a realistic option for a Chiefs trade down.

That leaves the Eagles, who are apparently shopping one of their first round picks. Specifically, rumored interest includes the Cincinnati Bengals Chad Johnson and the Buffalo Bills Jason Peters.

ESPN's Michael Smith said the Eagles might be looking at sending a first rounder to Cincinnati in exchange for Ochocinco.

"I am hearing there is interest in Chad Johnson," Smith said. "Now there's been some back and forth as to whether or not he is officially on the market. I think everybody in Cincinnati has signed off on moving Chad Johnson except for owner Mike Brown. The Eagles could be in the picture. They have two first-round picks. They need a receiver."

Smith goes on to say that the Eagles have "engaged in serious discussions" with the Bills regarding the availability of Pro Bowl tackle Jason Peters, who would likely command a first round pick.

Remember the Eagles worked out LT Eugene Monroe, so they're certainly entertaining the idea of a trade into the top five of the draft.

While trading down may be the best option for the Chiefs, the chances of finding a partner with enough ammo to pull the trigger on a deal is in question.

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This does not make sense to me.

If I were a GM (which I am not) there is no way I would trade off a 1st rd pick for CJ. Wouldnt they be better off trading up and getting Crabtree or even standing firm and getting Maclin?

by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 8, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maclin won't fall to them

And for CJ you would be giving up one 1st round pick for him. For Crabtree you would be giving up Two first rounders plus some.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 8, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They feel they can win now.

Few WR come in and blow up their rookie year and McNabb isn’t getting any younger.

by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 8, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh course

they had T.O. and look how well that worked out for him.

McNabb belongs in the HoF doubly so if he ends up being the only QB to have to put up with both of them.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Apr 8, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Worked out well, made the Super Bowl.

by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 8, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think trading down with the Eagles was ever an option anyway.

They would have had to give up both first rounders and a second most likely… which isn’t gonna happen. If they were gonna trade up they’d do it with someone like Denver at 12.

by Vince D on Apr 8, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't buy the draft chart stuff.

If Pioli was offered both their first rounders I think he pulls the trigger.

by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 8, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Top picks lose more and more value each year.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 8, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Especially when the top talent

isn’t that great. Seems like more and more teams want mid-low round first rounders and high second rounders.

My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.

by IISaiNtII on Apr 8, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

I still think the Jets may be a viable option to trade with. They need a QB in a bad way. If they could score Stafford at #3 ( possible but not likely) or even getting in front of Seattle or Denver for a shot at Sanchez, I think they may do a swap with us.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 8, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chad Johnson...

…is good, but not the best. And his ego and baggage isn’t worth a first round pick. The Eagles already have an over-rated show-boat WR in DeSean Jackson. They’re crazy if they go through with this.

by jbj8609 on Apr 8, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree

But if they don’t do anything, they will have to deal with Dono pouting all year and making excuses on why he can’t win.

If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home.

by craig in calgary on Apr 8, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think the Eagles will trade for either of them.

Maybe if they can get a really good deal they would throw a pick at them, but I think they are just getting all their options.

The eagles will play the draft. They may not trade up with us, but I think they will with somebody else or just pick what they have.

"...said he could'nt go on the American way"

by The Steel City on Apr 8, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Eagles really like to move up or down in the draft, but I don’t think the #3 overall is within reach. The value chart is outdated, but not THAT outdated. It would still take more than two picks in the last third of the round to move up to #3 overall.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 8, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't put the Eagles only on Crabtree...

they need a LT and may want Monroe or Smith.

by Helmets on Apr 8, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why don't we just trade the pick for a player?

Instead of waiting to see what other teams do, why don’t we get out there and make things happen, control our own fate…..Go after Jason Peters or some other middle of the road player with an equal amount of skill and worthy of a round 1 pick………not Chad Johnson however, you are nottttt worrtthy…

by RobertP on Apr 8, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs