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Which Teams Would be Interested in Trading for Larry Johnson?

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So far this week at Arrowhead Pride, it's been Larry Johnson, Larry Johnson and more Larry Johnson. If you're weren't sick of the guy already, this past week of coverage may have put you overboard.

So naturally, what do you we have for you? Another post on Larry Johnson!

Hate us, yet?

Anyway, we've all been talking about what the Kansas City Chiefs' recent victory in their salary grievance case means for LJ's future. Some want Larry to stay in KC; others would cut him this second without getting anything in exchange.

Before we get into what teams may possibly be interested in trading for Larry Johnson, I want to preface this post with one point. This is not a post suggesting that Larry should be traded. It's simply examining the options out there should a trade come up for discussion. I didn't make that clear in yesterday's post about what Larry's trade value is. These are hypotheticals if a trade does indeed go down.

Both Primetime and I, despite our annoyance with Larry, still think the best option is to run his butt into the ground and max out any value the Chiefs can get. That is, if they can't find a trade suitor.

Yesterday, most of us put Larry Johnson's market value between a 3rd and 5th round pick. What teams may or may not (emphasis on may) be interested? Jump over to see who were talking about.

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Arizona Cardinals (Revenge of the Birds)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 31 (31)   Castille, Tim 
Round 2, Pick 31 (63)  Green, Justin 
Round 3, Pick 31 (95)  Hightower, Tim 
Round 4, Pick 31 (131)  James, Edgerrin 
Round 5, Pick 31 (167)  Kreider, Dan 
Round 6, Pick 31 (204)  Vincent, Chris 
Round 7, Pick 31 (240)  Wright, Jason 
Round 7, Pick 45 (254) 

 

A trade for Larry Johnson is a possibility but Edgerrin James and LJ aren't that different in at this point in their careers.  James will be 31 at the start of the 2009 season and LJ will be 29.

It's certainly a possibility, though I would put the Cardinals likely interest as moderate, at best.  LJ wouldn't be a significant upgrade over James and Tim Hightower presents a solid option in 2009.

Cincinnati Bengals (Cincy Jungle)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 6 (6)   Benson, Cedric
Round 2, Pick 6 (38)  Dorsey, DeDe
Round 3, Pick 6 (70)  Johnson, James
Round 3, Pick 34 (98)  Perry, Chris
Round 4, Pick 6 (106)  Runnels, J.D.
Round 5, Pick 6 (142)  Watson, Kenny
Round 6, Pick 6 (179) 
Round 6, Pick 36 (209)
Round 7, Pick 6 (215) 
Round 7, Pick 40 (249)
Round 7, Pick 43 (252) 

 

The Bengals have been working out Georgia RB Knowshon Moreno so it's likely that they're at least interested in adding some talent at the RB position.  Cedric Benson had a decent season in 12 games of work but they still lack some depth there.

I would place the Bengals interest slightly above the Cardinals because LJ would immediately become the best option on the roster.

Those five 6th and 7th round draft picks probably wouldn't interest the Chiefs enough but two 3rd rounders give the Bengals enough firepower to assuredly get a deal done.

Baltimore Ravens (Baltimore Beatdown)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 26 (26)   Daniels, P.J. 
Round 2, Pick 25 (57)  Lawrence, Matt 
Round 3, Pick 24 (88)  McClain, Le'Ron 
Round 4, Pick 23 (123)  McGahee, Willis 
Round 5, Pick 26 (162)  Parmele, Jalen 
Round 6, Pick 25 (198) Rice, Ray 

Is Willis McGahee sticking around? The Ravens just picked up Ray Rice but Johnson could be a a replacement for McGahee, whose slated to hit FA next season. 

It would probably be in the Ravens best interest to keep McGahee this season because he'll probably be trying to increase his value on the open market so it's unlikely the Ravens would add LJ and carry both on their roster.

The interest level for the Ravens would be low.

Cleveland Browns (Dawgs by Nature)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 5 (5)   Ali, Charles 
Round 2, Pick 4 (36)  Harrison, Jerome 
Round 2, Pick 18 (50)  Herron, Noah 
Round 4, Pick 4 (104)  Lewis, Jamal 
Round 6, Pick 4 (177) Patrick, Allen 

Thomas, Marcus 

Vickers, Lawrence 

 

Jamal Lewis probably won't be in Cleveland past this season. He's only a few months older than LJ so a trade wouldn't accomplish much in terms of getting younger (which is the main reason Lewis would be gone after this season).

The Browns interest level would likely be higher than the Ravens but not as much as the Cardinals or Bengals.

With only two picks after the first day, the biggest question is if the Browns will continue the Phil Savage way and trade draft picks.

Dallas Cowboys (Blogging the Boys)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 2, Pick 19 (51)   Anderson, Deon 
Round 3, Pick 5 (69)  Barber, Marion 
Round 4, Pick 1 (101)  Choice, Tashard 
Round 4, Pick 17 (117)  Coleman, Alonzo 
Round 5, Pick 20 (156)  Crosslin, Julius 
Round 5, Pick 30 (166)  Jones, Felix 
Round 5, Pick 36 (172) 
Round 6, Pick 24 (197)
Round 6, Pick 35 (208)
Round 7, Pick 1 (210) 
Round 7, Pick 18 (227)

 

Never count the Cowboys out but with Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice, RB is a minor need.  They did lose Julius Jones last year who was a first and second down back before Barber broke loose.

The Cowboys interest is difficult to gauge but I still wouldn't place it above the Cardinals or Bengals.

Five 4th and 5th round picks is enough wiggle room to get a deal done with the Chiefs without hampering the rest of the draft.

Denver Broncos (Mile High Report)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 12 (12)   Young, Selvin
Round 1, Pick 18 (18)  Buckhalter, Correll 
Round 2, Pick 16 (48)  Hall, Andre 
Round 3, Pick 15 (79)  Hillis, Peyton 
Round 3, Pick 20 (84) Jordan, LaMont 
Round 4, Pick 14 (114)  Pinnock, Andrew 
Round 5, Pick 13 (149)  Torain, Ryan 
Round 6, Pick 12 (185) 
Round 7, Pick 16 (225) 
Round 7, Pick 26 (235)

 

The Broncos put 7 RBs on IR last season so they're definitely in the market even after adding Correll Buckhalter and J.J. Arrington in FA. 

But do you really expect the Chiefs to send LJ to Denver?  Not me. Besides, the Broncos can get away with a Buckhalter/LaMont Jordan combo next season.

But if they wanted to do it, those two 3rd round picks are likely enough ammo to get a deal done.

Houston Texans (Battle Red Blog)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 15 (15)   Brown, Chris 
Round 2, Pick 14 (46)  Leach, Vonta 
Round 3, Pick 13 (77)  Moats, Ryan 
Round 4, Pick 12 (112)  Sapp, Cecil 
Round 4, Pick 22 (122)  Slaton, Steve 
Round 5, Pick 16 (152) 
Round 6, Pick 15 (188) 
Round 7, Pick 14 (223)

 

Ahman Green has already approached the end of the line in Houston so they could be interested in adding someone to complement swift Steve Slaton.  However, LJ's running style isn't the best fit for the zone blocking scheme Gary Kubiak runs in Houston. 

Still, Kubiak remembers how well LJ ran over Denver when he was with the Broncos so it remains a possibility.  The interest level would be low.

Indianapolis Colts (Stampede Blue)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 27 (27)   Addai, Joseph 
Round 2, Pick 29 (61)  Ball, Lance 
Round 3, Pick 28 (92)  Hart, Mike 
Round 4, Pick 27 (127)  Simpson, Chad 
Round 4, Pick 36 (136) 
Round 5, Pick 29 (165) 
Round 6, Pick 28 (201) 
Round 7, Pick 27 (236)

 

They're listed as possibly interested because RB could be construed as a need for them. However, LJ doesn't pass block well and the Colts are a pass heavy team.  LJ wouldn't present a major upgrade with their style of play. 

The interest level would be very low.

Jacksonville Jaguars (Big Cat Country)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 8 (8)   Cotrone, Anthony 
Round 2, Pick 7 (39)  Jones, Greg 
Round 3, Pick 8 (72)  Jones-Drew, Maurice 
Round 4, Pick 7 (107)  Owens, Montell 
Round 5, Pick 8 (144)  Pearman, Alvin 
Round 6, Pick 7 (180)  Washington, Chauncey 
Round 7, Pick 23 (232) 
Round 7, Pick 41 (250) 
Round 7, Pick 44 (253) 

 

They lost Fred Taylor to FA so LJ could play a role in extending the life of Maurice Jones-Drew who has yet to be the feature guy in the Jags offense.

Though there haven't been any reports indicating any interest, I would suspect the Jaguars would be interested in adding a veteran back like Johnson.  Remember, this team won 11 games just two seasons ago so they may be in a "win-now" mode which could benefit someone like LJ in the latter stages of his career.

New England Patriots (Pats Pulpit)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 23 (23)   Faulk, Kevin 
Round 2, Pick 2 (34)  Green-Ellis, BenJarvus 
Round 2, Pick 15 (47)  Maroney, Laurence 
Round 2, Pick 26 (58)  Morris, Sammy 
Round 3, Pick 25 (89)  Taylor, Fred
Round 3, Pick 33 (97)
Round 4, Pick 24 (124) 
Round 5, Pick 34 (170) 
Round 6, Pick 26 (199) 
Round 6, Pick 34 (207)
Round 7, Pick 25 (234)

 

The Pats should be interested in a player like LJ.  They've demonstrated an ability to A) control "problem children" (Randy Moss) and B) take in veterans seemingly on the way down.

NE is likely to continue with a RB by committee approach next year according to Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe but expect there to be some interest from New England should Johnson become available.  They won't pay top dollar which wouldn't make it a #1 landing spot for LJ but expect there still to be some moderate interest.

New Orleans Saints (Canal Street Chronicles)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 14 (14)   Barnes, Darian 
Round 4, Pick 16 (116)  Bell, Mike 
Round 4, Pick 18 (118)  Bush, Reggie 
Round 7, Pick 13 (222) Evans, Heath 

Hamilton, Lynell 

Houser, Kevin 

Sobomehin, Olaniyi 

Stecker, Aaron 

Thomas, Pierre 

 

Deuce McAllister is an UFA and was a similar type of back to LJ. Deuce has a more significant injury history and LJ does represent an upgrade at this spot. 

Though recent reports say the Saints are ready for Reggie Bush to be "the guy", it's not really feasible to expect him to carry the full load by himself.

I would expect the Saints to be as interested in LJ as the Cardinals or Bengals.  The real question is do they have the ammo to initiate a trade like this with only four draft picks?

Philadelphia Eagles (Bleeding Green Nation)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 21 (21)   Booker, Lorenzo 
Round 1, Pick 28 (28) Buckley, Eldra 
Round 2, Pick 21 (53)  Eckel, Kyle 
Round 3, Pick 21 (85)  Weaver, Leonard 
Round 4, Pick 21 (121)  Westbrook, Brian 
Round 5, Pick 5 (141)
Round 5, Pick 17 (153)
Round 5, Pick 21 (157) 
Round 5, Pick 23 (159)
Round 6, Pick 21 (194) 
Round 6, Pick 22 (195)
Round 7, Pick 21 (230)

 

Absolutely a need.  Brian Westbrook is the only proven commodity on this list. 

An LJ signing would A) help extend the career of Westbrook by splitting carries with him and B) give another weapon in the offense for Donovan McNabb.  Remember, this team made it to the NFC Championship game last season so they're certainly interested in a "one final push" scenario before McNabb moves on.

I would place their interest in LJ at the top of the list especially since they have four 5th round picks to play around with.

Seattle Seahawks (Field Gulls)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 4 (4)   Duckett, T.J. 
Round 2, Pick 5 (37)  Forsett, Justin 
Round 3, Pick 4 (68)  Jones, Julius 
Round 4, Pick 5 (105)  Schmitt, Owen 
Round 5, Pick 1 (137) 
Round 6, Pick 5 (178) 
Round 7, Pick 4 (213) 
Round 7, Pick 36 (245) 
Round 7, Pick 38 (247) 
Round 7, Pick 39 (248) 

 

RB is a need but not a major one (right now) compared to other needs across the board for Seattle.

All four RBs listed above were acquired within the last year by the Seahawks.  They should have an interest in LJ but likely wouldn't be major players putting their interest level at low.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Buc 'Em)

Draft Picks Current RBs
Round 1, Pick 19 (19)   Askew, B.J. 
Round 3, Pick 17 (81)  Cook, Jameel 
Round 4, Pick 20 (120)  Graham, Earnest 
Round 5, Pick 19 (155)  Smith, Clifton 
Round 6, Pick 18 (191)  Storer, Byron 
Round 7, Pick 8 (217)  Ward, Derrick 
Round 7, Pick 20 (229)  Williams, Cadillac 
Round 7, Pick 24 (233)

 

I'm not sure if I would call this a need or an area of interest.  Earnest Graham, Derrick Ward and a rehabilitated (really?) Cadillac Williams are likely all they'll take into the 2009 season. 

Ward just signed a $17 million deal on March 2nd so that likely puts their interest in LJ at a minimum.

Poll
Who would be most interested in trading for Larry Johnson?
Arizona Cardinals
178 votes
Cincinnati Bengals
63 votes
Baltimore Ravens
24 votes
Cleveland Browns
74 votes
Dallas Cowboys
32 votes
Denver Broncos
39 votes
Houston Texans
40 votes
Indianapolis Colts
21 votes
Jacksonville Jaguars
32 votes
New England Patriots
83 votes
New Orleans Saints
75 votes
Philadelphia Eagles
340 votes
Seattle Seahawks
64 votes
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
29 votes

1094 votes | Poll has closed

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Jags just cut an aging running back...

They wanted to consolidate at the position was one of their reasons, i believe.

by woodman212 on Apr 7, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

And they’re already in a contract dispute with MJD now…which is smart on MJD’s part because who knows how long a 5’7" guy who plays in short yardage situations will last or if he’ll make his next contract? Especially with free agency now 6 years away for him.

That’s the fun side of what NFL owners will learn about opting out of the CBA…expect to see a lot more holdouts during training camp now that players have to wait two more years before they can hit the open market and get paid their full market value.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.

by UCrawford on Apr 7, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clarification

MJD will have three more years after this one before he becomes a free agent (six years in the NFL total).

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.

by UCrawford on Apr 7, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Not The Capless Part

It’s the “six years until free agency” part. The owners seem to think that by controlling their players’ rights that extra two years that they’ll have more continuity on teams, but what they’re probably going to get instead is more expensive free agents (because there will be less good ones) and more contract holdouts (because players know they’ve got short careers).

Gene Upshaw was completely right when he said the owners would be foolish to pull out of the CBA. I don’t think they’re getting a salary cap back and they’re delusional if they think they’ll keep salaries down.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.

by UCrawford on Apr 7, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Raiders

would like to have him. He fits their profile perfectly. He’s even on probation, they’ve got to like that. This also gives them a chance to run him down our throats.

by choirboy on Apr 7, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its exactly why they pass so much that they need LJ

It would add more balance to their attack, and since LJ is such a wonderful pass blocker he would be worth at least a 3rd round pick…wink…shh…don’t say nothing..

But the Eagles are traditionally a greedy team when it comes to their draft selections.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on Apr 7, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Arizona

keeps the offensive scheme they used last year (even though we now have their OC), LJ wouldn’t fit their needs. They need a versatile back that can block and catch out of the backfield. I could maybe see Cincy or Philly, but feel that LJ fits the Jags the best

by Chiefs4Life on Apr 7, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't thought about the Colts until I saw the poll

but it might make sense – Manning isn’t getting any younger. Pas heavy offense or not, with a solid O-line I think defenses would still have to key on LJ, and that could open holes in the secondary Manning hasn’t seen since James’ heyday.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Apr 7, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eagles would be awesome

No way the colts would take that risk with a new HC and a pass-heavy offense, it’s just too likely to result in Manning getting blown up every time LJ comes onto the field. Any RB that plays on an offense with Peyton in Indy is going to need to have good hands and a willingness/aptitude for blocking. LJ has neither.

by JHWK on Apr 7, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saints or Jags

Eagles have already shown they can’t handle problem children (T.O.)

by Bearson on Apr 7, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Jags Won't Want Him

Jack Del Rio has shown a pronounced distaste for players who question his authority, as he showed last year with the Mike Peterson blowup. The Eagles would be a decent fit for him, except that they’re already paying Westbrook as the primary back and Johnson has shown to be a problem child when he has to split carries. The Browns have enough problem children as is to take on Johnson’s baggage, the Colts have Addai already, the Texans have Slaton and would likely go for a cheaper platoon back if they want to go that route, the Bucs just signed Derrick Ward, Bill Belichick hates players that won’t block or execute if they don’t feel like it so New England is out, I doubt Pioli will trade within the division, the Saints already have a good 1-2 punch in Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush, the Cowboys have three quality backs already (Barber, Jones, Choice) and not enough touches, and the Bengals just re-signed Cedric Benson to be their primary back.

Arizona is the best overall fit…they desperately need a running back as James is washed up and Tim Hightower is not good (less than 3 yards a carry) and they’d be the most likely to trade, but not until after the draft if they can’t find a running back there.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.

by UCrawford on Apr 7, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can We Keep Larry For One Year

and cut him AND not pay him for the second year? If so, this may be a viable option to “give him a chance” to see if he can deliver.

by Nemoi on Apr 7, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe we can

and I think that is likely what we will do.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Apr 7, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he goes to Philly he will be destroyed...

If he thinks our fans are critical…he has a LOT to learn

by woodman212 on Apr 7, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

trade him to the Seahawks

He wants to go to the east coast , trade his sorry ass to the northwest…lol….

blu

by blu43 on Apr 7, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I cant wait till LJ is off this team

and everyone gets out of the herm edwards mind set of hanging on to players. Im telling you Pioli is a motha fuckin gangsta and he dont need his ass.

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Apr 7, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cleveland has extra

mid round picks and likes the power running game.
NE because they can take attitude guys and get them on board, Moss was infamous for loafing on plays that weren’t to him.

Jets, RB is old and showing signs of it.

Arizona, needs a bruising runner that James wasn’t anymore.

Philly lost Buchalter, needs the thunder to Westbrooks lightning, if we aren’t greedy and will accept less than the point value for picks, swap 1st rounders, give up LJ pick up their 2nd & 3rd or 4th or 5th. We lose on points, but in the end we’ll come out ahead.

Detroit, it just feels right to post it. But they are top heavy with draft picks. Similar to Philly we swap 1st rounders (their second one), take their 2nd & 3rd or 4th and give them LJ at a reduced price.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 7, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing that can really work to our favor in a possible trade

is pulling a baseball move and signing him to a cheap deal and offering to pay his salary for the year and move him to another team.

Does anyone know if this has ever been done in the NFL, I know its more common in MLB.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 7, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I suppose

You could give him a signing bonus and trade him. The signing bonus would accelerate into the salary cap that year. The player would have his money. The team he went to would have a small contract to deal with. Sounds pretty unlikely though.

by Chris Thorman on Apr 7, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said Cinci,

they could all get in trouble together, and get a group discount with the bondsmen. I did vote Cinci, could see them picking him up, because he is the type of troubled player they love.

Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!

by Eric Allen on Apr 7, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who Knows

I am just hoping we can get a 3rd rd pick and conditional next year based on production. I think he’ll be a good RB for someone for 2 more yrs, but we can grab some picks that will far out weight what he will deliver in KC, let alone the distraction.

Scenario: I think TonyG gets traded to Philly for a 1st, 3rd, and conditional ‘10 pick based on performance. They need targets for McNabb, and there are no star “start right now” rookie TE’s. Pettigrew is known better for his blocking than pass catching. We can pick up Beckum from Wisconsin in the 4th to compliment Cottham, and use the PHI pick to trade down a few picks, grabbing DE English late in 1st and C/RT in 2nd.

by ChiefnMI on Apr 8, 2009 6:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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