My Turn for Chiefs Draft Trade Craziness
From the FanPosts. One of the better thought out trade down scenarios for the Chiefs I've seen. Please keep this post in mind before you post two paragraphs that don't make any sense. -Chris
So, seeing as everyone else has listed some ideas about who we could trade down with for our #3 overall pick I thought I'd take a shot at it.
Denver, San Fran, Tampa Bay, the Jets, and Seattle may be in need of a QB, but that's been done already. Philly is in need of OL and a RB, but that's been done too.
Without further ado:
Plaxico Burress was pulled over for the 5th time in a month after changing across 5 lanes in an attempt to make his exit. He decided that mouthing off to the officer rather than to act like an adult was the correct course of action. Burress was released by the N.Y. Giants after refusing a settlement that would have paid him some of the bonus money he was due to make before he broke the law and shot himself in the leg. After missing games last year the Giants felt that he was in breach of contract and they filed a grievance in an attempt to get out of his $35million dollar contract. After the NFLPA listened to both sides and while they were considering the issue the Giants decided to make an offer to settle the dispute.
Keep in mind that the Giants were none too happy over Burress' decision to postpone the legal proceedings on his gun possession charges until after the draft. The Giants very much would have preferred to go into the draft knowing if they were going to be in need of taking a receiver. Plax and his lawyer, in obtaining a postponement, left the Giants in limbo regarding that question going into the draft. The Giants made an offer to Plax that would have paid him some of his contract money even if he served time for the gun charges. Plax and his agent decided the best course of action was to refuse that offer and continue to fight for the full $35 m contract. The Giants decided that, given the continued malcontent over the $$$ + the impending possibility of jail time, it was in their best interest to cut him.
Now the Giants know for sure that they need to go into the April draft and come out with a serious threat at the WR position. According to the table on this page WR Michael Crabtree tops the NFL draft rankings for the Giants. He is ranked #1 above Aaron Curry. The Giants do not pick until 29th in the April NFL draft. There isn't much chance for the Giants to pick up a top threat at WR with the 29th overall pick.
The Giants have a plethora of draft picks in April including: 1 first, 2 seconds, 2 thirds, 1 fourth, 2 fifths, 1 sixth, and 1 seventh. They also have about $23m in cap room. They could sign all 10 players in the draft if they wanted to spend all their cap, but I believe they would be better off by packaging some picks to move up and take an impact receiver in the 1st round.
With Kevin Boss as their TE pass catching threat, they also would not be hurt by adding a veteran TE that has a proven ability to catch the ball in traffic. With the loss of Burress and Amani Toomer (born 1974) entering his 15th NFL season they can expect to see decreased production of 1st downs from the WR position. Hixon, Manningham, Smith, and Moss round out their current receivers. During the 2008 regular season the Giants did not have a receiver with over 600 yards and were 88/204 in 3rd down conversions. Worse yet, on 2/27 Amani Toomer was declared a FA and is no guarantee to return to the team next season.
The Giants have a definite and immediate need for an impact WR. They have the means and ability in terms of draft picks to move up the board. They have needs at all the receiver positions and arguably for a TE that can be a bigger receiving threat than he is a blocker.
The Chiefs could get a lot of picks in the 2nd and 3rd for the "Michael Crabtree" spot if they are willing to trade back to #29 in the first round. The Giants are also a team that is ripe for the picking to trade further back with to add more picks in a multi-trade deal. EX. trade the #3 for Denver's #13 and #18 + the Broncos 4th or 5th. Then trade the #12 to the Giants (Crabtree might be gone, but other top 5 ranked receivers wont be) and move down to #29 while adding at least 1 second rounder if not 2 (or a 2nd and a 3rd).
We could still grab a Maualuga or a Laurinaitis with the #18 pick and Unger/Mack at the #29 spot plus add 2nd and/or 3rd rounders.
I don't want to get too far into suggesting specific trades, but I do think there is a definite possibility of the Giants being willing to wheel and deal their 10 picks on draft day. Their need at WR is high. There also may be a player or 2 off of their defense they are willing to package for a WR, and adding TG to sweeten the pot could be a possibility.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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I like the thought
Trading with Denver is the stretch.
I posted earlier about small incremental trades to net draft picks maybe NYG would be part of that after some smaller moves with Cleveland, Green Bay and would put NYG in prime Rcvr area. I’m glad that you just alluded to a TG trade :)
Have you thought of doing Sports reporting?
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 5, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sports writing is not my bag of cheetoes
I can’t spell worth a damn, and I don’t care to immerse myself in proper grammer. I also only care about 1 football team enough to spend my time writing about them, and I can do that right here on AP :)
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 5, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A bloggers dream
I can’t spell worth a damn, and I don’t care to immerse myself in proper grammer. I also only care about 1 football team enough to spend my time writing about them, and I can do that right here on AP :)
Pretty much says it all. Nice post.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 5, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You haven't read any sports columns lately.
It is the idea that makes the story and the Editors can spell, most anyway, you have good ideas and apparently some time to write them. News is a changing. I’t might be something to think about as a sidelight :) Which part of Texas are you in?
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garden Ridge
About 5 miles NE of San Antonio, although I used to live in Austin and Buda too
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I lived in Foat Worth for 3 years
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 5, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade down
I would take any trade down we can get.
But, my guess is that the Giants will wait around on Brit, Nicks or Robiskie instead of making a trade in the first couple of minutes of the draft.
by stagdsp on Apr 5, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking this a few days ago.
Crabtree would make all of the Giants their WR’s dangerous. However, Hakeem Nicks IMO is the best WR after Crabtree but because he doesn’t have a stellar 40 he’s underrated. I’d love the trade but I think the Giants will sit on it and trade up in the second for some solid help for the secondary considering there’s only two secondary talents that belong in the first
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Apr 5, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would love to see a trade
Any trade down would be a welcome sign. but don’t think the Giants have the motivation to move that high if we could move down a few slots for someone to pick a Quarterback maybe SF or Jacksonville then maybe move down to the Giants pick that might work a little better. But am not getting my hopes up on any trade not sure if any team wants to pay the money a top five pick gets, and the depth of this draft seems to be it’s strength. But I will say I almost always agree with your posts and enjoy reading all of your comments they are very insightful. This is my first time commenting and I thank you for all your great insight on the defensive side of the ball.
by rockymtnchief on Apr 5, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine you are
giddy about all the Colorado happenings as of late.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 5, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giddy is not the word
Has been absolutely hilarious watching the broncos fall apart right under my nose. Listening to all the whiny fans here was getting old and I really do believe they did the right thing getting rid of Jay Elway sorry Cutler. Any time you disrespect the boss as he did yiou should be shown the door.
by rockymtnchief on Apr 5, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We get out that way once in awhile,
We have got family in rifle.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 5, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very beautiful area
I don’t get up that far very often but it is breathtaking sometimes hard to believe how much you take for granted living in one of the most beautiful places on earth.
by rockymtnchief on Apr 5, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Rifle)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This would be Pioli's dream scenario
It seems to me that Pioli and Bellichek place more value on late first early second round picks than on high first rounders. A trade where we could move back and a late first rounder and several seconds would be Pioli’s M.O. It wouldn’t suprise me if he’s already eyeing a couple of potential suitors in that area because the scouts have been doing some workouts with guys that are likely to fall into that second round territory.
by Sudden on Apr 5, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point
They do seem to be eyeing a lot of guys who fit in the late first early second category so you would think the Don has something up his sleeve probably an offer they can’t refuse. heh heh
by rockymtnchief on Apr 5, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
different look at things...but
please stop talking about Tony G in another uniform….how do you root for that???? I have trouble with J. Allen all the time. Just earn it here for Gonzo….
by Sea of RED on Apr 5, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The thing that has my head spinning
is that all the “good” teams have so many picks. The rich get richer. Teams like the Giants and Patriots have more picks than they really need. I could see the Giants as a possible trade partner, and I hope we can move down and pick up more picks. The more I look at this draft, I don’t think the top 10 players are that much better than the next 20. There doesn’t seem to be a big diffence in what you will get, so moving down makes a lot of sense. Hopefully the Giants will reach for a WR, and we can grab some potential starters at multiple positions. If we are unable to trade down at all, we may only get 1 starter (don’t shoot me yet), because anything 3rd round or lower is not as likely to be a starter.
by TheQ on Apr 5, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Id agree that 3rd and lower its hard to find first year starters
unless you are Herm and then its a prereq.:) I just dont see a trade happening for us. Its not that im against a trade down, because im actually all for it. I just dont want to get my hopes up.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Apr 6, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Will be the first wide-out of the board on draft day! JMO.
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by blu43 on Apr 5, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really......I mean Really!!!
If we trade down……… There is no way we trade w/ denver
To get what we want The only to teams i think that it would be worth is Seatle, or Cleveland. Being that Cleveland is a AFC team and at number #5 I see Seatle as partners…………
1 round…. switch 3 for 4
2 round get seatle’s 2 for pick+ player (I think that’s the only way we get our 2nd rounder back)
by Jclawd on Apr 6, 2009 5:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seattle doesn't see us as a threat
to take the player they’re interested in. They are likely looking at Stafford or Crabtree and believe we will take Curry or one of the LTs. They have no particular interest in trading up one spot.
by Chiefs4Life on Apr 6, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See this as being much more likely if
Detroit doesn’t draft Stafford, then the phones will be blowing up from the Jets, Vikes, Niners.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 6, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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