Is Curry A Smoke Screen For us to Take Monroe?

why do we need a first rounder defense of leader?

Aside from incoherent, you are contradicting your earlier statements.

i personally think that Bj Raji would be the defensive pick over Curry just because he fits a bigger need at NT.

You did it in this post, as well.

we have 3 rush linebackers (vrabel, johnson, hali)

Hali is not a rush linebacker, unless you are saying he will be in the new 3-4…I guess.

ILB isnt high enough on our list to warrent the 3rd pick selection.

Did you watch our defensive collapse while rotating everyone with a helmet through the MLB position?

Like i said before, the only 2 players who warrent the 3rd overall selection are Monroe and Crabtree, thats it!

And from your earlier comment:

i think the better situation would be to trade down to a team like the bengals who could use either Monroe or Crabtree, and draft Bj Raji at 6th spot

1) Your “new favorite draft expert” Mayock has Curry as the #1 player in the Draft. So, you are disagreeing with your new favorite expert about his worth?

2) WR and LT are our biggest needs at #3? But you want Raji at #6? So, from #3-#6 our needs totally shift, and DT is our new biggest need? But Raji at #3 is totally unacceptable? And the #1 ranked player, Curry, is still not worth it at #6?

mkay.

Make no mistake, we don’t need a LT. The exact same people calling to move Albert to RT graded Albert with a A to a A+ grade after his rookie campaign. Those grades were posted right here on AP. This community posted grades and decided that Albert was an “A” and would be out LT of the future for the next 10 years. They were happy with is performance on the field and positive about his ability to play the position.

We don’t need a LT, and the majority of AP posters have already agreed with that. We need a center and a RT. I don’t hear anyone saying how terrible our LT is and that he needs to be replaced. I here no one asking to trade Albert away and draft the LT of the future. I keep hearing the same argument over and over again. That argument is:

Draft Smith/Monroe at #3 and move Albert to RT. It will give us bookend tackles for years to come.

The same people making that statement have somehow come to the conclusion that QB/LT/DE are the ONLY positions that you should ever spend a #3 pick to draft. Their logic seems to be that the $$$ involved can only be justified by taking a safe pick (LT) that has the lowest chance to bust or by taking the historically riskiest pick ever in the NFL (QB).

That argument makes no logical sense. The #3 pick should only be used on the safest or the riskiest possible positional choise, but never on anything in between? Did you guys all pickle your brains? What point could you possibly be trying to make with a statement as assanine as that?

Further, by previously grading Albert as an “A” or better grade you have all stated that he doens’t need to be replaced. If he’s worth an “A” grade and can be out rock at LT for the next 10 years than we don’t need a LT. So now you want to use the #3 pick that should only be used on a QB/LT/DE and spend it on a RT.

Make no mistake, that is exactly what you are saying. You don’t think we need a LT. You think we need a RT. The only reason you are arguing for us to take a LT is so that we can move Albert to fix the problem at RT. If you thought we needed a LT you should be arguing that we trade Albert away for whatever we can get for him and draft a LT to replace him. But I’ll bet not any one of you will get behind the idea of trading Albert and taking Monroe. And the reason for that is that you are spending the #3 pick on a right tackle, as sure as if you were trading our #3 pick to some other team for their elite RT.

YOU made the rules (#3 only worth it if it’s a QB/LT/DE). YOU graded our current LT (“A” or better a fixture for 10 years to come). And now YOU are arguing for us to break your rule (use the #3 to fix the problem at RT); and YOU are arguing that Albert is not the long term solution at LT (seeing as you think we should replace him).

If you want to take a RT to fix our hole there I have absolutely no problem with that. If you think that a RT can be worth a #3 pick I have no problem with that. But to listen to person after person call for a RT with the #3 pick and then justify it by citing that either Albert isn’t good enough at LT or that LT is the only pick worth the #3 makes no sense at all.

Your statements are contridictory to each other.

Ever heard of Richard Seymour? Ty Law? They have most definitely invested first-round picks in guys who have turned out to be leaders, and in some cases in guys (Wilfork, Merriweather, Warren) who will probably be the leaders as the current ones age.

Aaron Curry is not the end-all, be-all, but neither is Monroe. Curry is a good talent, Monroe’s a good talent, but so are guys like Raji, Orakpo, and Brown.

If you really think that, then apparently you didn’t actually watch the Chiefs this past season. I’m sure there was a game or two in which Thigpen had the game in his hands and didn’t pull it out. However, those were greatly overshadowed by the incredible suckitude of the defense. You can’t fail to both stop the run and rush the passer and expect to seriously compete in the NFL.

Also, there’s a lot of things that can be blamed on Herm. One of the biggest things, to me, was his (and his staff’s) complete inability to make halftime adjustments. The offense ALWAYS came out flat in the second half, because the opposing teams were adjusting to our offense, but we weren’t making any counter-adjustments.

Finally, if I’m wrong and you weren’t talking about Thigpen…well, never mind – the point still stands.