Report: Chiefs Jettison Bulk of Scouting Staff

by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2009 3:29 PM CDT in 2009 Draft Comment 24 comments

When Scott Pioli was hired on January 13th, 2009, many of us assumed he was handcuffed to the Kansas City Chiefs current scouting staff because the draft was so near.

I previously chronicled the fate of the Chiefs coaching staff days after Pioli's hiring. Pro Football Weekly has the scoop on the latest news about the Chiefs scouting department:

Monday was D-Day in the Chiefs' scouting department, as the vast majority of the staff was released by GM Scott Pioli, according to multiple sources.

Not that surprising considering their previous record with Carl Peterson, but just another reminder that no one's job is safe.

The Chiefs current scouting staff looks like this:

Director of College Scouting - Chuck Cook
Regional Scout/Scouting Coordinator - Bruce Lemmerman
Scouts - Terry Delp, Cornell Gowdy, Mike Hagen, Matt Littlefield, Greg Olejack, Willie Davis

It's unclear which employees have been terminated. Quick note about Chuck Cook - he's been with the organization for 25 years, 12 as a scout and 13 as the regional scouting director.

There has not been any indication if this purge is related to just the scouting department or also the personnel department which includes:

Director of Pro Personnel - Ray Farmer
Player Personnel Assistants - Kurtis Bell, Scott Aligo and Rod Perry

Ray Farmer has to be considered on the chopping block considering he comes from the Herm Edwards era who ran a completely different system than Pioli.

The Pro Football Weekly report does say that many of those axed in the Chiefs scouting department had to of figured it was coming. Now Scott Pioli can bring in the guys that know what he wants.

H/T takclaw and WesternChief.

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Haley is a scout too

So I would imagine he wants his guys in there. Not too big of a surprise here.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Does anyone know

the email address to send my resume to?

by Sudden on Apr 27, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Here

This site.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No scouting department positions on there

and for some reason, I don’t think the Chiefs will be posting any of the football operations openings on there. Too bad I couldn’t sell water to a man dying of thirst in the Sahara. But if we get a direct contact for the front office, I’m pretty sure that they’ll receive tons of resumes. I guess my hope is that they’ll start looking on the boards here for talent scouts. UCrawford is probably on their short list.

by Sudden on Apr 27, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dont send in your resume please

Okay…Here is the deal if you have no experience working in the NFL or in football it is pointless for you to turn in your resume. It will not get looked at. I am a former intern at the Chiefs and now how the deal works. They get tons of resumes’ even w/out the firings from all over the nation. Somebody working a regular 9-5 or some type of construction worker dreaming of improving their status from armchair gm/coach to a real scout is obsurd! Please dont stuff your resumes at there when people like me actually have a shot. It only clogs the system and a lot of good resumes’ dont get a chance. I know it sounds harsh but thats the truth. Either you know somebody and can get in or you have playing experience backed by previous scouting/coaching experience in the NFL or at least college. So please do us a favor and keep your resume!

by formerchief on Apr 28, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

2nd rounder in 2010

I said this the other day, Pioli may have preferred getting a 2nd round pick in 2010 for Tony G since that would give him a chance to clean house and rebuild our scouting dept in his image. He needs to completely overhaul how we scout and evaluate players.

by Chiefs4Life on Apr 27, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Plus with the spectre of an uncapped year

and the general talent level expected next season, it looks like 2010 will be a much deeper draft class.

by Sudden on Apr 27, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly...

if you ask me this years crop was lacking. I think it had something to do with a record number of juniors coming out last year.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 27, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Expected

by FrankPitts on Apr 27, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Willie Davis is the same Willie Davis, former Chiefs Player

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No surprise...

Wonder if Kuharich will be sticking around…

by woodman212 on Apr 27, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes I imagine he will

He should be IMO.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this may be the best development coming out of the draft

one way or another the scouting department has been dropping the ball for a long time.

The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.

by sm7600 on Apr 27, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If Ray Farmer Got The Axe

I wish the guy the best of luck. I took a liking to him on “Hard Knocks”.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.

by UCrawford on Apr 27, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I have to disagree partly...although I do wish him the best of luck.

He rubbed me the wrong way. He seemed like the chosen “bearer of bad news” only because he played ball and was big enough to take care of himself in case any of the cut players went ballistic.

When he did have players in his office he really didn’t come across explaining well the players weakness’ or was very vague.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Apr 27, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Well you would have had to make chicken shit out of....uh........Chicken shit!"

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Apr 27, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL...yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Apr 27, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

then he was like printers

You know what you dont know the playbook like you should hahah that was great. printers was tearing it up although he was playing against me and the arrowhead pride blogsters

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Apr 27, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the rumor right now

But we’re not ready to report it yet.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 27, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i liked the way ray farmer talked to people he gave it to them straight

no tap dancing straight up. very good quality in a jaded league

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Apr 27, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree, he was cool

by FrankPitts on Apr 27, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

business decisions

This is good. Expected. Pioli creating the culture from the inside out. I trust in Pioli. I knew this was coming when in the press conference piror to the draft Pioli said he and Haley made adjustments themselves given how the scouts were scouting and how his way was different. He indicated it took time and energy to teach them a new way of scouting related to background info on intangibles like leadership, love of the game, dedication, etc.

by JBChiefs on Apr 27, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why wouldn't he clean house?

The scouts who’ve been here a long time don’t have much to show for it. If they’ve been here 15 years, then they’ve produced players who’ve won zero playoff games. Look at the draft record for the last decade or so, it’s dreadful. Best for everyone to move on and we can start over with people who think like Holy Pioli.

by Offense of the 70s on Apr 27, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs