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My Top 10 Post-Draft Thoughts

From the FanPosts. -Chris

#1 Even after all of the "research" and projections we all tried, after the countless hours of NFL network and mock drafts... 70% of the picks were still surprises, and most of the players I knew nothing about.  I'm no Mike Mayock (that guy was on the money, though!)

#2 Just because the Chiefs met with or worked out a player, doesn't mean they LIKED that player's workout or interview.  I thought for sure they would have drafted Brinkley among others, but when they passed them over multiple times it was clear that they just didn't fit the plan.

#3 Speaking of "the Plan"... there IS one.  Pioli and Co. HAVE a blueprint as to how to build this team.  I think it's very specific, and probably a GREAT way to build a winning team.... but we, the public do NOT get to see it until it's done.  The draft provided a glimpse, as did free agency.  The next glimpse comes in the UDFA and roster cut signings (which I think will be HUGE).  There may also be a significant trade coming.  Either way, there's a plan in place, and they could care less what we or the media think they should do.

#4 Speaking of FA/Trades... it's clear the Chiefs are NOT done building this roster.  they didn't address several positions that need clear upgrades or depth.  They drafted role players instead of starters in many cases.  I was wondering why?, then I remembered #3 (see above)

#5 The draft and FA additions also point out what Pioli and Haley think of the current roster.  Obviously, the front 7 was project #1.  Special teams was project #2.  Maybe the OL isn't as bad as we thought.  Maybe Dorsey, DJ and Hali DO have the potential that we hoped they would.  Maybe B Rich can step up and start at RT.  Maybe Bradley, Bowe and Engram are a solid enough receiving corps.  Maybe Cottam CAN be the TE of the future.

#6 Here are my thoughts on the roster and depth chart at this point...

The Chiefs have 11 returning starters that they believe are solid.  (Flowers, Page, Pollard, Carr, DJ, Tyler, Bowe, Albert, Waters, Bradley, LJ)

They have drafted or acquired 6 new starters (Vrabel, Cassel, Thomas, Goff, Engram, Jackson)

That leaves 5 positions on Offense/Defense that are somewhat up for grabs.

  • OLB/DE (predator) between Hali and Robertson, maybe a couple other guys.
  • RT between Taylor, Richardson, Brown
  • TE Probably Cottam, but Curtis, O'Connell could provide competition
  • C Probably Niswanger, but competition may (and should) be brought in.
  • DL Dorsey and Magee will probably rotate, Jackson will likely beat out McBride

Special teams should be greatly improved, and there is open competition for 3 of the most important roles: K, PR, KR

#7 Waters will not be traded.  LJ could still go.  I'm not losing any sleep over either one... though losing Waters without a solid replacement could be scary.  Dorsey will not be traded.

#8 This team IS better today than it was on Friday.  It was better Friday than it was in January.  It will be better in September than it is today.  The front 7 is now very solid, by any measure (except maybe depth at LB)  The secondary is solid and young (again, depth could be an issue) The skill positions on offense have potential to be very good... with a couple of key additions yet to come.  OL... well, we'll see... but should be good, I think.

#9 The Chiefs have young guys and solid contributors at lots of positions, with not a ton of flashy "big name" guys.  I think this is the way Pioli likes it... but I wouldn't be surprised to see the following big upgrades.... WR, LB, C (if they can find one)

#10 ESPN and NFL network had way too many commercial breaks with WAY too few different commercials to choose from.  If I never see another "NFL Play 60" ad or Progressive insurance commercial, it will be too soon.

Thanks for reading, and commenting!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Which song?

The United Way song….duh duuuuuuuuuuh duh duuuuh duuuuuuuuh duh….Adrian Peterson played with me and my friends….YAAAAY

by woodman212 on Apr 27, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

If you watch the Drew Brees one closely…it is funny because he throws a football and says immediately “That’s a good spiral”….I think he is referencing the kid’s previous throw but it doesn’t look like it…

by woodman212 on Apr 27, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think your analysis is

astute. I believe it is especially true regarding item #3. By the way for any semi-literates out there this sign (#) is a NUMBER sign not a POUND sign.

by G.L. on Apr 27, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it is not both.

By what stretch of the imagination do you call that a pound sound. Based on what? It is most certainly not the sign for the British pound or unit of currency. That does not appear on American keyboards. What you are saying is absolutely balderdash.

by G.L. on Apr 27, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in the UK

we call it “hash”

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!

by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually in the U.S.

we call that an illegal narcotic ;)

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Apr 27, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey man

it’s for medicinal reasons. I also weave the hemp fibers.

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!

by sir eccles on Apr 27, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris,

I get what you are saying and you know this stuff better than I do, I just wish you would not have mentioned number 8 the way you did. It sounds so Herm Edwards.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Apr 27, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm misunderstanding...

…but I don’t think Chris wrote this. ?

by jbj8609 on Apr 27, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

I’m not Chris…

Anyway, I know Herm made the 85% comment, or whatever…
thing is… I don’t totally disagree with it (sorry)
I think there is/was a ton of young talent on this team, that just hasn’t been developed and used properly.

Maybe I’m overly optimistic…. but I wouldn’t be surprised if:
Hali is effective as a predator
the OL is a good unit as is
the WR are good as is

don’t underestimate coaching, scheme and another year of experience for some of the rookie/2nd year players from last year… they may just surprise you!

by stagdsp on Apr 27, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You aren't Chris? Are you sure?

My whole view of the universe is spinning out of control =P

The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw

by Texas Chief on Apr 27, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice to hear from you too, Tex!

by stagdsp on Apr 28, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree

 Great post, and dittos about the ads. Things are really lookin up!

by Digital on Apr 27, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

with this post.
We are not done adding and subtracting from this team yet.
We have have not even put a team on the field yet and some are on suicide watch already.
Pioli way or may not be a genius, we wont know that for a few years but he does not strike me as someone who will settle for losing, its not in his background.
  

by markc on Apr 27, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Very good post

We don’t have any Idea what Pioli plans are. I have liked some of the things he has did and have not liked some of them. When the team takes the field for the season we will see how he did but until then I will question all the moves. And the #8 does sound kind of like Herm.

by bringbacktheglory on Apr 27, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On number 10...

…I really got sick of seeing the E:60 commercial (ESPN) of the dude on steroids with the ridiculously deformed arms (“I think steroids are as American as apple pie…”) every 10 minutes.

by jbj8609 on Apr 27, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good analysis.

It seems as though Pioli’s plan isn’t far from how they rebuilt the Patriots. He definitely seems to be focused on shoring up the horrible unit that was our defense last year. I’m impressed by his patience, and I think he understands that this is a multiyear process. I would expect them to look at LBs and offensive players next year.

I hope Cassel doesn’t get beat up this year. I’d like to see the OL improve, as would everybody else. Engram is a steady, if not spectacular, presence at WR. I’m not sure what they’ll do from the RB position if they trade LJ. Hopefully there will be some good OL and RB options cut loose before the season starts.

by etp_stl on Apr 27, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cards are only asking for a

2nd rounder for Boldin now.

Young, dope & flashy.

by Young Ace on Apr 27, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2nd rounder...

and a player from what I heard. Maybe they would settle for a 2 and a 3?

by fixitquick79 on Apr 27, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This draft

Was really a breath of fresh air.

I really like our picks, we got two starters for our DL, Jackson and Magee will be great players for a long time.

Then we picked up a physical talent in Donald who with the help of coaches, who COACH and develop young players into Pros, will be at least a nickel back in the very near future (very under-rated but important position).

We finally have a speedy WR, no i’m not talking about Darling, Lawrence could end up being the big play/home-run type of dude we need.

After that we grabbed a mountain of man in Colin Brown. Not only is he ginormus, but he used to be bball’er which means, unlike sackintosh, he probably has some feet. That and he is from small town Missouri, i bet this kid will work his ass off. What a perfect o-lineman, mean, nasty, HUGE, missouri farm kid. Kudos Pioli.

As for the later rounds i think we got some developmental guys and some competition for Barth.

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Apr 27, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually like...

Taurus Johnson a bit better than Lawrence. I think he will be our KR and backup slot.

by fixitquick79 on Apr 27, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What did you guys think...

about passing on Jarron Gilbert for Magee in the third. I thought for sure that pick was going to be Gilbert. Do you think it has to do with something between the ears? Chicago obviously didn’t blink when he fell to them on the next pick.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 27, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what have you guys heard

I have heard this morning that the chiefs are trying to trade Dorsey WTF is this, are they really trying to do this or are people just blowing smoke????

by chiefsrock1 on Apr 27, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From us this weekend :)

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 27, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

People i work with said they saw it online but i havent seen anything about it anywhere also is the story about Cassel getting $36 million garanteed contract that was on NFL network through the draft true as well i heard Pioli say that it wasnt in his interview?

by chiefsrock1 on Apr 27, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just found articles on google about Dorsey trade possibilities between KC and atlanta

by chiefsrock1 on Apr 27, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think those were all...

pre-draft rumors that never came to fruition. I think we were think of trading Glen for Atlanta’s first and second rounders. Maybe because Jerry Perry fell to them they felt they didn’t need the trade anymore. Anyway I think Dorsey has a spot on this team. He can play Darnell Dockett’s position in AZ and Jackson can play Antionio Smith’s position. All we need is that predator and I’m praying that Hali can become that guy. Plus, the Pats drafted Brace out of BC so they probably are not planning on resigning Wilfork, which means Pioli will probably snag him in the 2010 offseason, hopefully.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Apr 27, 2009 2:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I think Hali, if he were coming out of college this year, would have been considered right up there with Ayers, Maybin, Orakpo, English… a prospect for this predator position.

Now we just have to see if he can step up and develop… or if he gets beat out by robertson or Studebaker or Johnston…. OR if the Chiefs bring in a replacement (Peppers, Taylor)

by stagdsp on Apr 27, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way....

that Flo chick is hot.

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" -Homer J. Simpson

by Whitebacon on Apr 27, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great post

I appreciated numbers 3 – 6. As I’ve said before. We can hypothesize, research, pick apart, study, and come to our own conclusions, but until we see the Team, our new Chiefs Team take the field in September… well we just won’t know. I do agree that Pioli is patient, has a vision, and is gonna do his damndest to implement it. We just will have to be equally as patient in watching it unfurl.

I also agree that Pioli and Haley aren’t done yet. UDFA and cuts will be joining us as the months go on. Hopefully Holtclaw will be a Chief soon too. Yeah and pigs might fly outta my arse, I know. But one can hope. In any event, I think the will do what they see fit and what they think is best for the team of the future. Are we better than we were last year? Oh hell yeah. Now we get to give our new players time to learn the new system, hell we get to give our old players time to learn the new system and hopefully some of them will realize their potential and slowly but surely we’ll become a force to be reckoned with.

And on the brightest side of everything… No matter what, we don’t have Al Davis as our owner and we didn’t have their draft… I almost feel sorry for their fans. Then I realize that they are Raider fans and don’t anymore. :-)

by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 28, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked the post

especially the five “maybies” in #5

just keep matriculating the ball down the field !

by SoCalChief on Apr 28, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great List

This is a really great top ten list, I hope there is a big trade, let’s get a new QB or LB. I just hope Pioli and Co know what they’re doing because I don’t have any power to make any decisions. Anyone can post their own list to our site http://www.toptentopten.com/. The coolest feature is you can let other people vote on the rankings of your list.

by vincetastic on Apr 29, 2009 2:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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