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The 2009 Draft Brings Us Eight New Chiefs

Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College Approval Rating
Round 1 Pick 3 (3) Tyson Jackson DE 6'4" 295 LSU 40%
Round 2 Pick 2 (34) Traded to NE for Cassel/Vrabel
Round 3 Pick 3 (67) Alex Magee T 6'3" 298 Purdue 35%
Round 4 Pick 2 (102) Donald Washington CB 6'0" 197 Ohio State 23%
Round 5 Pick 3 (139) Colin Brown OL 6'7" 335 Missouri 44%
Round 6 Pick 2 (175) Quinten Lawrence WR/KR 6'0" 184 McNeese State 71%
Round 7 Pick 3 (212) Javarris Williams RB 5'10" 223 Tennessee State 62%
Round 7 Pick 28 (237) Jake O'Connell TE 6'4" 255 Miami (OHIO) 33%
Round 7 Pick 47 (256) Ryan Succop K 6'2" 218 South Carolina 50%

Well the approval ratings for each pick are still coming in so don't take those numbers too seriously.

We'll be covering the undrafted free agents and that big post-draft, well post, I was talking about earlier is slated to come out tomorrow morning. It will be our main summary of the draft.

Check back later for undrafted free agent signings. Let us know if you approve of how the Kansas City Chiefs draft went down in the poll below. We'll ask you to grade the draft tomorrow.

For now, sit back, relax and enjoy the temporary tranquility. This will be the final open thread of the 2009 NFL draft here at AP. Thanks for reading and commenting.

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I agree with the picks

because they are part of a bigger plan. The one thing that Pioli believes in (and learned from Belichick) is to pick players that do certain things well and put them in situations to do those things in the game. I know he is not the coach but I have a feeling that he and Haley think alike, otherwise he would not have been hired as our coach. This plan might not come to fruition right away but with the young players Herm drafted last year, this draft, and next years, we will be on our way.

by Nelly on Apr 26, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

The picks aren't flashy- and thats okay

We aren’t going to be considered a draft winner or get much media attention but it doesn’t matter. These players our right players for our team. Tyson Jackson and Alex MaGee our perfect fits for our Defensive line. Donald Washington has major upside and is worth the risk of a 4th round pick. We also picked up a road grader right tackle and a big boy running back and a damn fast receiver to go with a tight end and a kicker picked up late. Time will tell if these players are the best players we could have had, but I think Scott already has a pretty good idea that he’s got the right players for our team.

by SayHeyWerd on Apr 26, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

“flashy” means you bought into the hype.

We’ll see what SP’s results are, in the next year or two. Hopefully, they will out-perform the hyped picks…

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines

by Bleedingredandgold on Apr 27, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll say one thing

I feel a million times better about our defensive line. I was really concerned about it, and now I feel like it’s at least solid if not a real strength. Jackson, Tyler, and Dorsey starting with Magee providing good depth. I like the sound of that.

by TheDBroShow on Apr 26, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

The defensive line definitely was improved today.

by Vince D on Apr 26, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Magee

He could end up starting at the other, if we continue to run the Under. Tyson will play 5 tech on non TE side, Magee will play a 5 tech on TE side, Dorsey 3 tech, Tyler 0 tech (NT). Vrabel/Hali/Johnston/McBride predators, ZT ILB, DJ at other LB.

Not too bad…

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Apr 26, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

In one of the interviews today, Haley said he planned to use Dorsey as an outside guy (end). This makes me think they might just go straight to the 3-4, rather than use the 4-3 under as a transition period. I think we have the right D-line for a 3-4 now, and that was one of the main things that was keeping us from just going 3-4 to begin with.

by TheDBroShow on Apr 26, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think "outside" may mean 3 tech in the Under

If you listen to how the reporter asked the question thats the vibe i got. I think the reporter has no idea what an under is and was asking about a 3-4 when haley thought they were asking bout the under.

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

by bigbe on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm happy with the D picks

but still concerned about protecting our Q-Backs and making lanes for the RBs. I do like that we picked up Colin Brown, but don’t see him making an immediate impact. I look forward to this next week to see what we do with the remaining Free Agent pool.

by TXChiefan on Apr 26, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually could see Colin Brown starting right away.

It’s funny, I watch every Mizzou game, and I remember watching Brown dominating some guys and thinking “I wonder where a right tackle like that would fall in the draft… I hope the Chiefs pick this guy up.”…and we did!

by Vince D on Apr 26, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he'll compete for the job

with McIntosh and Richardson. Out of those three, I’m pulling for Richardson. Hopefully he’s been working hard.

by TheDBroShow on Apr 26, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Richardson could't unseat Mac last year why could he this year?

Muir will decide and I will imagine he KNOWS what a O-lineman looks like after 80 years exp :)

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Richardson was a rookie last year.

He’s now had a year of coaching and a year to add strength. McIntosh is aging and is a player on the decline. It should be an interesting position battle.

by TheDBroShow on Apr 26, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like a battle between a couple of Mountain Rams :)

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think Pioli and staff have a plan and they accomplished what they wanted from this draft. Some strong competitive players came from these picks and hopefully will benefit this process of building a winning Chiefs team again. It looks like they brought in the grandpas to play a year or two with dj and while building a strong front line with a up and coming secondary. Think Donald Washington will join the youngsters in the back and make a impact. Pioli knows this team wont be fixed overnight (many fans dont see this imo) and started well and will look toward those backers and solid o line in free agency and next years draft. Thanks to Chris and primetime…..good work this weekend, it was fun.

by tdbowe on Apr 26, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I would give some props to Herm and his staff for some spade work at the foundation level.

Without Dorsey and Tyler and Cottam and Carr and Flowers and etc.
Pioli would not have been able to draft a late RB or CB or OT or Kicker.
last props for Herm from me as he had us pick # 3 and we could’nt trade down because of some stupid game day decisions that kept us from drafting 5th and screwing the League this year much better than that Maingenie Belecheck wanta be screwed up trading down for 6th rdrs.

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

This draft class

was real lackluster. A real bummer after last years, in fact. I think the best pick we made was in Round 4th with Washington. I’ll go ahead and go record saying Peterson & Herm had a better draft class last year than Pioli & Haley had this year.

Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"

by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 26, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll go further

as a Chiefs fan, I think I would have rather had Curry in R1, Everette Brown R2, and Michael Johnson in R3 with Thigpen starting next year – than Tyson Jackson, Cassel & Vrabel, and Tits Magee. But that’s just me…

Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"

by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 26, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a close one...

But I know I’d rather have Curry and Michael Johnson than Tyson Jackson and Magee.

Or even Curry and Magee (since they’d have actually needed that 3-4 DE if they didn’t take Jackson) instead of Jackson and Magee.

Or lastly, Monroe or A. Smith and Johnson.

But my #1 choice would have been to offer Igor 4 years $20 million and take Curry and Johnson.

by kcsno56 on Apr 26, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully you're right.

Last year: won the draft, went 2-14.
This year: “crap draft”, …?

You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?

by Mully on Apr 26, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thats the tradeoff

sexy, talented players with worlds of potential but coaches couldn’t get anything out of them vs. mediocre players who coaches get the most out of them.

Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"

by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 26, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the tradeoff was Sexy fire coach new Coach not Sexy but Coach em up.

Like the A+B better than a Possible B+A approache with coaches/front office that sucks!!!!!

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

But its not really a fair comparison as last year Herm and Carl had an extra 1st and 3rd.

Still, I agree with you that this years haul was disappointing, especially considering the guys we took vs. who we could have picked up.

by kcsno56 on Apr 26, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

We’ll have the AP mock draft/real draft comparison up tomorrow as well.

by Chris Thorman on Apr 26, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Duke Robinson in the 2nd FTW!

God, did I miss that one.

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey This draft was unreal

How could logic dictate with so many unlogical (non-Spock) type people making the Actual picks :)
Cheer up Ban me if it makes you feel better I amd listening to some Zepplin right now :)

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

It was a crazy ass interesting draft. :)

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kashmir

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can I give you Monday Off?

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish.

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I can't then I want you to give yourself Monday Off

Peace

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

but Chris and Prime deserve it more than anyone. Especially, Chris with his weekend trip from hell.

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Monday off for everybody at AP except JayZ

 who gets an AC or at least an Oscillating Fan that he doesn’t have to turn right and left on :) I’m Pulling for some Beer Glove Money for AC JayZ ; )

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about

we just give him the non-oscillating fan and 1 ice cold Natty Light?

We have to keep our sweatshop standards. :)

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am a Natty guy but one would only last 5 Minutes

NO, an Oscillating Fan minumum for a great weekend AP from bottom to top :) Or I will bring over some Teamsters or maybe Brian Waters :)

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, he gets an oscillating fan.

You are a tough negotiator. :)

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for a great weekend

And if this gig doesn’t work out a Bouncer job is in your future.
12-34-23-45-16-13

LOL

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how we did

compared to the “big boys” on the moving picture screen.

Beat the Donkeys!!

by schraggyj on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

By far the biggest miss

Was AQ Shipley…guy went in our 2 round mock, and didn’t go off until the middle of the 7th.

by kcsno56 on Apr 26, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gerald Cadogan

This cat wasnt picked up. i wonder why. A lot of grades had him as a 2nd to 3rd round talent.

by tdbowe on Apr 26, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Alex Magee

DT not T it can be confusing to some people even though he will probably be DE

by PSUkegreen on Apr 26, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Alex Boone

OT from Ohio State went undrafted

Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"

by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Chiefs did their part to let no Buckeye go undrafted :)

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the picks

Of course 73% agree with me on Lawrence. We need a kick returner and his scouting report made him sound like he’s the one that it will be.

The TE could be a surprise, since if Pioli is moving up in the 7th round to get him, there must be a reason.

Jackson will be the new management’s guy. Everyone here sounds like we passed on Reggie Bush and took Mario Williams. I’m quite sure that’s the case with this draft. I don’t think Curry was a can’t miss player despite what the experts say. Even if that was the case Mario Williams turned out to be a beast, so I hope we can look forward to that.

I don’t know enough about the offensive linemen to form an opinion.

Washington, they said, has a ton of potential and has amazing athletic skills, just hasn’t figured out how to use them. I guess the best we can hope for is that he is somehow able to take a spot from a CB we have, but we were 7th in turnovers forced, so that might be hard to do.

by actioncuse on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you F***ing kidding me!

This draft was crap. PURE CRAP. Oh, and Tyson Jackson DOES NOT look like Mario Williams. Carlos Dunlap….who we should have selected NEXT YEAR….looks like Mario Williams. Just to give you an idea both Williams and Dunlap were pass rushing beasts in College, stood about 6 foot 13 and ran about a 6.6 40. Frickin Tyson Jackson runs damn near a 5.0 and got 4 stinking sacks in college. The two Patriots work horses are a better comparison.

As you guys can see, im still pissed. I still havent hashed out all of my feelings on this crap but, I have a few rough draft things I would like to throw out.

See, this is my main problem. With the movies we made, it is like Pioli and Haley are trying to make us the Patriots 10 FRICKIN MIN. FROM NOW! This draft was weak on high end selections for an ideal 3-4. Dont fool yourselves. Both defensive ends were a REACH. It is very special and very rare to pick this high in the draft…unless your the Lions or Rams. We should have drafted the way 99% of us thought we should draft. Filling positions of NEED with TOP TALLENT. You know the usual suspects…we have been talking about them for months. We are not going to be play-off contenders this year and probably not next year too. That is why we should have filled the NEED this year and worked on the 3-4 next year. Ill tell you exactly what is gona happen now. We are gona pick like 15th next year, and Carlos Dunlap is gona go in the top 5, and we will cry…why couldnt we select a guy like that with last years pick. WELL WE COULD HAVE. If we would have selected NEED for this year. We probably would have struggled next year. Then we WOULD have been in the right position to damn near finish our rebuild. I hate to admit it….but I yern for Herm’s drafting style.

Now, my unrefined main point being made I would like to say this. I still believe in Pioli and Hali. 5 years from now we might be looking back from a super bowl win and say this is where it started. I am not denying that. But, my gut instinct is that we are going in the wrong direction. We still may get there via Pioli genius. But he has to prove a lot to me now. Not that he cant do it. But im feeling grim and kinda sick to my stomach….STILL.

by MasterBlaster7 on Apr 27, 2009 3:14 AM CDT reply actions  

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