Why our drafting and our lack of trades makes sense
Ok, so waht do we know about our defense:
1) Clancy Pendergast is the DC
2) They split up the groups differently in camp -- Hali and McBride were working at outside linebacker.
3) They have not traded Dorsey
4) Tank Tyler calims he will play nose, and Dorsey will still be a three technique
5) We took two five technique ends to begin the draft
The reasonable conclusion: we are not playing a pure 3-4. We are playing the 4-3 under defense with ome 3-4 looks in it. We knew this already, but few pay attention.
Dorsey fits in the 4-3 under. It shifts the line to the left side of the offensive line with small penetrators, but then asks guys to be stout against the run on the right side.
The DL has a 5 tech on the right tackle, a nose that takes on the right guard and center, a 3 tech that penetrates against the left guard, and a standing end/linebacker hybrid to take on the left tackle. Take a look at the diagrams in one of the recommended fanposts on the 4-3 under. In this defense, the line will look like this:
Jackson and McGee -- 5 tech
Tyler and Edwards -- Shaded nose tackle
Dorsey and Boone -- 3 tech
Vrabel and ??? (I think they had Brian Johnston and Studebaker also in this rotation) -- Standing End (the Joker)
This scheme also makes good use of the linebacker talent that we have. You have a Sam backer that lines up on the outside of the TE to take on the run and to rush (from the right side of the OL). They have Hali and McBride lined up here. This person is a LB, but needs to be really stout like a DE. Both of these guys were used in coverage during zone blitzes last year and could perform limited coverage.
They have a traditional MLB that needs to be really stout at the point of attack. They sometimes have to take on the right guard and to stop the run. Clearly this is Zach Thomas' job.
The Will backer is also a hybrid MLB, since the look put 5 players on the line most of the time. This linebacker needs to be versatile to cover the left side, but is also free to make plays and to rush the QB often. Derrick Johnson and the guy we got from Atlanta last year will work here.
The safeties will have some cover responsibilities, but the SS can come down into the box more. We have the perfect set for this. The CBs are also good, but we will be playing some more man coverage, so the athletic CB from OSU (Washington) makes a lot of sense.
What do we still need? A guy to play behind Zach Thomas (I want Scott McKillop). I also have not been able to fit Darrell Robertson into the scheme so far (perhaps a backup to Tamba). I also think McBride might be one of the worst fitts for the scheme, but I don't know. Don't be surprised if we move him later this year for a mid-rounder next year.
Anyway, this is why it looks like we are going to a 3-4 and yet still have not traded our 4-3 guys, at least IMHO.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Good Read
and explanations. I agree with need for a Mike still unless Beisel will fit bill.
I hope that we get the timing down on shifting personnel in and out quickly or we might get caught in some bad D sets against a guy like Manning.
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 good post!
Dorsey will play alot like Dockett did last year for Arizona and Dockett was awesome in the playoffs!
by A true chiefs fan on Apr 26, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good explanation
I think you’re right for the most part.
I’ve always thought McBride would be a better 5 tech DE because of his size and run stuffing ability. He’s not a speed rusher, but he can take guys on.
McBride makes not sense to me at all at LB.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i like it
good explination (guess) for what has happened so far
by rich04 on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well thought out. This has left me feeling better about our draft.
by SupremeChief on Apr 26, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Nice work. It does help understand our draft better. How do you feel about Jasper Brinkley, MLB, S. Carolina as an understudy for Zach Thomas?
by Mostate44 on Apr 26, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind about Brinkley
He’s off the board.
by Mostate44 on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes alot fo sense
the 4-3 Under is almost more like a 5-2
Rec’d +1
by kingshunter on Apr 26, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With the loss of TG
I still think we should have picked a good quality WR
by thigpenis on Apr 26, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Post
Now I am begining to see the logic in Pioli’s picks. A smaller, yet more versitile defense, that will give multiple looks. I think this will be key against the new “Wildcat” formations. I know we did not see a lot of it last year….But, you better believe some in our division might give it an honest look. I cannot wait! I am sorry to see Gonzalez go, but by the looks of things, we are building for a great future. Vrabel and Thomas have a couple of more years left in them. Just enough time to either trade, develop or draft the new model Defensive Lineman of the future…I miss #58. Go CHIEFS!
by jimmymac63 on Apr 26, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bigger and more versatile :)
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that the draft is said and done...
We still don’t have an understudy for Zach Thomas to be our franchise MLB/ILB. Zach is only gonna be here for a year…maybe 2 if he does this season they might put him to another 1 year contract, and Monty Bisel is more special teams and not an every down LB. That’s already been discussed here and we still needed to pick up a MLB/ILB in the draft to start building up for when ZT leaves and to work with Beisel.
Leroy Hill (I think that’s his name) has had his franchise tag lifted so now he’s clear to sign with another team. I wonder if K.C. would look into picking him up…just a thought…
There's no hope with dope...
by chrisjo07 on Apr 27, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AP seems to be getting behind Holtzclaw as Thomas' understudy.
Either or is fine with me, though. As much as I’d love to have Holtzclaw, I don’t think we’ll get him. The fact Holtzclaw plays for a small school is overshadowing his amazing potential. I honestly don’t understand why nobody has signed him yet.
My best guess is he’s lost in the shuffle.
by SupremeChief on Apr 27, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Pioli said he evaluates talent no matter what school it is...
Talent is talent, he said…You would think that would be evident with the talent they have in Thigpen. Holtzclaw would, and is needed to, fill in the MLB/ILB position for Thomas after he is gone. We would need to pick up Holtzclaw this year so he can work with Thomas before he and Beisel take over that position and we draft anotother ILB next year (hopefully) What position did Leroy Hill play in Seattle? Could he be picked up for the MLB/ILB position?
There's no hope with dope...
by chrisjo07 on Apr 27, 2009 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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