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The point of a 3-4 Defense.

If we drafted a DE in a 4-3 defense at #3 we would all be ecstactic right now because that means that we get to see sacks and QB pressures and all the things that make defense great. The 4-3 DE is probably the most important position on that side of the ball, (Jared Allen, Freeney, Mario Williams, etc) will make or break the play of the entire defense.

So when we grab the two best 3-4 DEs it's met with a bunch of yawns and disappointment, and some "wait and see" type approaches. But, assuming everyone on here is just a touch above an average football fan, we can say what is boring yet completely true and that is "Football games are won at the line of scrimmage." But first, lets look at how a 3-4 DE works under the radar compared to highlight seeking 4-3 ends.


 A 3-4 End plays a huge role in the 3-4 defense and is rare to find their size as they must have height, size, and mobility to occupy the O-tackles. The positives of a 3-4 are that you have some big, strong, disruptive lineman that free up your LBs and secondary to make plays. The linebackers in a 3-4 are much more focused on their roles, either stopping the run or rushing the passer (in really general terms). Another 3-4 benefit is that it is easier to find LBs to fit your system because you are able to use their athletic benefits more one-dimensionally. This means we can find them in late rounds or in free agency if we have the proper talent evaluation. So if we really did get the two best 3-4 DEs in this draft, the most versatile and well sized guys, then why wouldn't we be cheering? These guys are pretty difficult to find outside of the early rounds in the draft.

We're going to see our OLBs get straight QB pressure, opposing running backs chipping away for 1-2 yards a carry or getting stuffed behind the line of scrimmage. We're going to see tipped balls turn into interceptions, cornerbacks and safetys who won't have to glue to their receivers for 15 seconds.

It may not look pretty now, but it's going to feel a lot better to hold opponents back, and not watch running backs bounce off of our guys and rack up career yardage against us. If these guys pan out, we may be doing far more to improve our weak defense than we have in the recent past while it may not feel like it at all.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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I'm not about to question

The judgment of Pioli/Haley. They haven’t selected a player with gaudy numbers, but I commend them for selecting versatile players who fit the scheme.

Our D-line really is crowded now. I think Turk McBride will be shown the door along with lesser impact players.

by SupremeChief on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

It would be hard to stomach if Dorsey, Turk, Tank and Hali don’t fit in on the team. Seems like a lot of wasted picks but we will see.

home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!

by Holmeslice on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Almost too much to stomach

We’ve been down this road before. We’ve made these picks before, with seemingly even more talented players. Its just we have different front office people who are now selecting their type of players. It sucks because it seems like wasted picks, dollars, and seasons

Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"

by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know, but..

if “their type” of players are the guys to bring championship defenses than we really can’t complain in the future. that’s not going to stop us from complaining today but later on it will work out!

home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!

by Holmeslice on Apr 26, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

My reply - Neil Smith

When he came to the Chiefs as a rookie and for the first 4 years we played a 3-4 Defense. Yet he was still a pass rush capable player, to say that 3-4 DE need only eat up blocks and allow other players to make plays is missing the history of this position. There was not a better End available in this draft but Pioli and Haley are spinning this to make it look better than it is. Tyson is slow to the QB, he has great hustle and can occupy blockers but he is not a top 10 talent and shouldn’t have been taken that high.

by tevans96 on Apr 26, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

There was not a better End available in this draft

You said it no better 3-4 end in this draft :)
Curry did not look impressive in 2nd day Video clips on ESPN.
We can spin and spin.
We need some base D-line players and Jackson is one and MaGee is two
Dorsey is three and Tyler is four.

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 26, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Smith...

…got 200 sacks as a 3-4 DE…or the majority of them anyway…

by woodman212 on Apr 27, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

and now we got em

NY Giants style. Hopefully.

home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!

by Holmeslice on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I like how you put it Holmeslice...

I’m just hoping that Hali can handle being an OLB. If not then I hope to God we can find an OLB in FA that can fill that role with DJ because Vrabel is not an every down player like he used to be. He’ll probably play the equivilancy of a half every game and then we need a solid OLB to match with DJ and we need to find somone that can tudor under Thomas and Beisel at the MLB/ILB position.

There's no hope with dope...

by chrisjo07 on Apr 27, 2009 5:48 AM CDT reply actions  

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