Arrowhead Pride Day One NFL Draft Open Thread #5
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 5:45 PM CDT
in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Draft
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PrintThis draft has hands down the most surprises I've ever seen in an NFL Draft. Hey, at least it's entertaining, right?
It's a shame the Chiefs don't have a second round pick to catch all of this falling value but if the trade went down for Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel right now, you'd be ecstatic.
Remember the draft started back in February for the Chiefs when they traded away the 34th pick.
Check out Mocking the Draft for real time images and info from Radio City Music Hall.
(3:04PM) Detroit Lions #1 - QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia
(3:14PM) St. Louis Rams #2 - LT, Jason Smith, Baylor
(3:24PM) Kansas City Chiefs #3 - DE Tyson Jackson, LSU
(3:32PM) Seattle Seahawks #4 - LB, Aaron Curry, Wake Forest
(3:41PM) *New York Jets #5 QB, Mark Sanchez, USC
(3:50PM) Cincinnati Bengals #6 LT, Andre Smith, Alabama
(3:56PM) Oakland Raiders #7 WR, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
(4:05PM) Jacksonville Jaguars #8 LT, Eugene Monroe, Virginia
(4:14 PM) Green Bay Packers #9 NT, B.J. Raji, Boston College
(4:18PM) San Francisco 49ers #10 WR, Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
(4:26PM) Buffalo Bills #11 DE, Aaron Maybin, Penn State
(4:32PM) Denver Broncos #12 RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
(4:33PM) Washington Redskins #13 LB, Brian Orakpo, Texas
(4:40PM) New Orleans Saints #14 CB, Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
(4:46PM) Houston Texans #15 LB, Brian Cushing, USC
(4:55 PM) San Diego Chargers #16 LB, Larry English, UConn
(5:00 PM) **Tampa Bay Buccaneers #17 QB, Josh Freeman, K-State
(5:06 PM) Denver Broncos #18 DE, Robert Ayers, Tennessee
(5:13 PM) ***Philadelphia Eagles #19 WR, Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
(5:20 PM) Detroit Lions #20 TE, Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma St.
(5:25 PM) Cleveland Browns #21 C, Alex Mack, California
(5:28 PM) Minnesota Vikings #22 WR, Percy Harvin, Florida
(5:35 PM) ***Baltimore Ravens #23 OT, Michael Oher, 'Ole Miss
(5:41 PM) Atlanta Falcons #24 DT, Peria Jerry, 'Ole Miss
(5:47 PM) Miami Dolphins #25 CB, Vontae Davis, Illinois
(5:50 PM) ***Green Bay Packers #26 LB, Clay Matthews III, USC
(6:00 PM) Indianapolis Colts, #27 RB, Donald Brown, UConn
(6:04 PM) Buffalo Bills #28 C, Eric Wood, Louisville
(6:10PM) New York Giants #29 WR, Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina
(6:18) Tennessee Titans #30 WR, Kenny Britt, Rutgers
(6:26) Arizona Cardinals #31 RB, Chris 'Beanie' Wells, Ohio State
***
*Trade Browns get: DE Kenyon Coleman, QB Brett Ratliff, DB Abram Elam and Jets' 2009 1st and 2nd round pick. Jets get #5 pick.
**The Cleveland Browns traded down two spots, exchanged first round picks with Tampa Bay and got the Bucs' 6th rounder.
***The Cleveland Browns traded the #19 pick to the Eagles in exchange for the Eagles' 6th round pick and the #21 pick.
***The New England Patriots traded the #23 pick to the Ravens in exchange for the #26 pick and the Ravens' 5th rounder.
***The New England Patriots traded the #26 pick to the Green Bay Packers for the Packers second and two third round picks.
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We can't be done with Rey and Brown still on the board
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
I'd just about kill
for another pick today
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I am not leaving until the 2nd is over.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
The burden of success. :)
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hoped over to behindthesteelcurtain.
to ask if they wanted them to grab rey. They have only had 400 comments in 1 open thread.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Posers. :)
We are at about 2000 now I guess
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
For the day
We are pushing 2,500 I think.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe that Maualuga is still out there.
That’s ridiculous.
I think he’s going to be a star.
Trade up please?
Pretty please with a death threat.
I am beside myself over Rey
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont know why
but i a gut feeling he is going to be fantastic.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Me too
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget about Beanie!
"The reason women don't play football is because eleven of them would never wear the same outfit in public."
~Phyllis Diller
by Cheiffanbymarriage on Apr 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions
Make sure
you guys check out the Todd Haley video JayKC posted. It’s on the front page, below this post.
Ya think?
I’ve been saying this since the first time I head words come out of his mouth. He’s slow, sedate, and inarticulate. He reeks of the old school
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 25, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
In the pre-draft presser with he and Pioli, everything he said had to be clarified by Pioli.
Yeah he talked about Dorsey
in a way which makes me think he stays here for next season
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
everyone.
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
Next year we will be so happy to have it.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
what do we have that they need?
OU SUCKS!!!!!!
by TexasFight83 on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Waters and LJ
Done for me.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Brilliant.
however then we would need to get a OLB
by WesternChief on Apr 25, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
New England trying to trade down.
And they do, to Green Bay.
Green Bay is taking Everette Brown? Clay Matthews? Rey Rey?
Just saw Haley's video
either we got a coach that works long hours or one that tips the bottle a lot. Man that dude looks like crap
lol
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Server load is fine
Not sure what’s going on. Just hit refresh I guess.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Raji and Rey
That is freaking awesome
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
or Raji and Brown
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm disappointed
I’ve said on numerous posts that the Jets were wanting Sanchez badly. See here. We had every opportunity to have them trade up and I thought it was going to be inevitable.
I thought Pioli would pull the trigger and get some extra picks. I hope it works out with Jackson.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Maybe the Jets didn't offer us anything?
Duh.
Considering we offered multiple other teams the #3 pick, I doubt we would have turned down someone’s offer.
That's doubtful
There was a lot of talk that Seattle was going to get Sanchez, so it was a risk on their part to wait that long. I’m sure that the trade with the Browns also depended on who Seattle picked before them.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Obligatory WTF?
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
As a 3-4 rush OLB, I think Clay will be really good.
Dude’s ridiculously raw. Teach him how to get to the QB, and he’ll be awesome.
It is stupid
That Cushing goes before Rey but then Clay does too WTF? I thought that it was stupid the whole time and it still is
I think 14.
including four 2nd rounders.
Expect them to try and trade up for someone, or just trade for next year’s picks.
Invoking a little Lanier63 here,
Dear Scott,
Please trade up to get Rey Rey or Brown. Press conferences aren’t that important. I implore you to get on the phone.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
To be fair
It’s a bitch to deal those top five picks.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
But it isn't that hard to get in the last 5 of the 1st
when you have Waters LJ and a 2010 2nd to play with
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfair
The Pats had a ton of picks to work with from when Pioli was there.
We’re working with what Peterson left behind.
by KCSatchmo on Apr 25, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
We won't know until Jackson either booms or busts...
He has potential to be a stud and he was overlooked because his combine was horrible…
Lets see how his late round picks stack up.. Thats what matters…
Amazin
That Pioli leaves New England and they make all the moves we should… The pats now have about A Kagillion picks
yeah but
its not like he left new england and forgot everything he had learned there
by The DBowe Show on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
New England is going to make another trade with KC
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
They have 5 million picks now and need to convert some to 2010
Pioli will shine and we will get a 2nd rdr
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
It just keeps getting stranger.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
Yes
I thought they would bring Edge back…
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
This is torture.
I can’t believe Rey is still available.
I want back in so bad.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Most teams must believe
that he’s a 2 down backer.
by WesternChief on Apr 25, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I know nothing, officially.
Ohmygoodness.
Will anyone ever take Maualuga?
And, after plenty had them taking Everette Brown at 11, will the Bills take him at 28?
They should, but this is crazy draft.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
They do know they need a LT right?
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it doesn't
They have NO left tackle. I don’t like it.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I might as well get drunk.
That is the only way this draft will make sense. :)
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
Will you type with your elbows the Chiefs 2nd rd pick?
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It hasn't helped.
I started early and I’m still confused/
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
To everyone above, yes, and I am now doing shots.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
tequila makes your clothes fall off... lol
"The reason women don't play football is because eleven of them would never wear the same outfit in public."
~Phyllis Diller
by Cheiffanbymarriage on Apr 25, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
and the problem is? :)
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
pass the lime & salt... as crazy as this day has been... no problem...lol
"The reason women don't play football is because eleven of them would never wear the same outfit in public."
~Phyllis Diller
by Cheiffanbymarriage on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
awesome!
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Be seeing you on COPS
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be the guy with no shirt. :)
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be the lady who lost control of her skirt. :)
"The reason women don't play football is because eleven of them would never wear the same outfit in public."
~Phyllis Diller
by Cheiffanbymarriage on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm seven beers into my day
and this still doesn’t make sense
by KCSatchmo on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Everybody is after our Mr. Irrelevant pick
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I would type with my elbows then :)
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
smokiniowachief was into 7 beers at 3:00... he's moved on to vodka...
"The reason women don't play football is because eleven of them would never wear the same outfit in public."
~Phyllis Diller
by Cheiffanbymarriage on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Kenny Britt or Hakeem Nicks.
It’s gotta be.
Except for the rest of the draft, I’d bet a million dollars it’s one of those two guys.
Now? Hell if I know.
Why would we trade Hali? Doesn't he still fit a 3-4?
Man other than Bowe our 1st rounders have been a waste, I hope Jackson changes things
People on behind the steel curtain
are saying pitt wants to trade out.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
I would
But the Budweiser is getting to me :)
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Miller time!
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
The not grabbing Rey is getting to me,
that and the rum.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It is an online sports bar
Chris said so, so get at it, woody!
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That is why they are SP contenders Year after Year
and the have a O-line and D-line
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
They need a replacement for Haynesworth but do they run a 4-3?
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So where is Tennessee going?
I had the Giants taking Britt, the Titans taking Nicks.
So I’ll say Britt to the Titans.
I would be surprised
If he slipped to the 2nd. If Titans dont get him i hope to hell AZ or TN doesn’t either.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
There isnt anything left
That would be equal value to Dorsey. That ship has sailed.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Sources are telling me...
Primetime is six deep!
Please get back into the 2nd round so this isn’t all for naught.
I say Kenny Britt here.
Although whoever takes Maualuga is either (a) genius and/or (b) incredibly lucky. He’s going to be awesome.
I’m hoping that we can trade up for him in the 2nd round if he drops enough.
They don't care for Unger
But they need line help. Bad. Thats why I say Waters and LJ to pitt.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
They already have the best defense ever.
It would be godly with Rey. They are pretty solid at LB though.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
forget trading Dorsey
he’s a Chief, Haley was just talking about his role.
Waters is more likely…
Wells goes to AZ
Britt to TN
Right?
Boldin or Beanie Wells….Boldin when you are ready to win NOW.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I am very disappointed with the draft
A reach at 3 and no first round trades. I really think we will have a worse record next year.
Is that a Guy?
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Awww. He is so suburban tormented.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Getting Tyson Jackson, Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel in this draft sounds pretty awesome to me….
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
In fact
Considering we got the best QB outta this draft, you can argue that the Chiefs have had the best draft so far.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I vote both.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup!
Again if we had pulled that deal today people would be calling Pioli the grestest Gm ever. Is just the fact that it was done so long ago that we have forgotten the impact of that deal
You are being a little emo-ish indeed...
…We got a steal of a franchise QB with our 2nd round pick….dont forget
Not what's behind the name.
How do you change your screen name? Emo’s a combo of my first and second name and a nickname from years ago. I’d never heard of that term before. I don’t need to be confused with some f-ing Marilyn Manson looking freak.
YES!
I got two right in a row.
Nicks and Britt.
I have Beanie going to Arizona.
Can I get three in a row?
Once we start the 2nd round
There is no reason to not go after the talent still on the board.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
B/c it would cost a ton to move up an entire round
Let’s face it…no one wants LJ and Waters is a mid-round talent.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
For Rey or Everette Brown.
Waters and next year’s 2nd would work
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Beanie would make sense.
Of course, nothing going down actually made sense, so I bet it doesn’t happen.
Whos on the board?
We got Britton. Beatty Mauluga Brown Barwin Unger Laurinatis There is def. Still talent on Those guys are all first round talent
New overflow thread is up
In this one, Pioli and Haley speak with the media regarding the Chiefs’ 3rd pick. H/T to Chris for getting it together for us.
GO GET BROWN YOU BUTTHOLES!
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 25, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
I would trade 4-7 to move up right now in in 2nd
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
That's just crazy talk
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 25, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Who would have more impact, plus we would still have 3rd, without touching 2010
Value of #2 at 14 or so
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus we can't trade Mr Irrelevant and could take the best player Not drafted
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Franklin gone, Merrit gone,
does any of last years 4 + play for us?
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I am starting to think that we
should have traded Tony earlier so we could have had a better chance at getting another compensatory pick
Shake 'n' Bake
wow
am I missing something or is Maualuga really going after Laurinitus?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
were not gettin back in
if we could pull something off and get Rey, what a steal
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
our defense is soid as rock
if we picked Maualuga
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
its just wishful thinking.
If denver doesn’t pick him up I will flip.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
they passed up on Maualuga again
this is starting to get ridiculous.. And Denver traded a first next year to move up… Idiots
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
im starting to get pissed about the situation. haha.
Seriously why aren’t we trading in? NO sense.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
This is bullshit
The Pats have a billion picks. Damnit Pioli, get your old homeboys on the phone and get something done.
Shake 'n' Bake
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