The Kansas City Chiefs Select LSU DE Tyson Jackson with the Number Three Overall Pick
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT
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PrintThe Kansas City Chiefs have selected LSU DE Tyson Jackson with the #3 overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.
Wow, I have to say I'm surprised that the Chiefs took Jackson this high, although he was obviously the guy the Chiefs wanted. Scott Pioli could care less about mock drafts. He took the guy he wanted.
No trade...Nobody bit and I can't blame them.
I'm excited about this pick. Jackson should fit in very well with the new defense. Dorsey, Tank and Jackson? I can tell you right now we'll more than double last year's sack total.
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Selected 16th overall in the AP Mock Draft
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this is NOT a good pick
not at all
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
I wouldnt say at all
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I'm fine with this pick
Everything is wait and see right now. Not overly excited about it, but I’m excited about the defense getting better.
This is NOT a reach.
I can get behind this pick
Dorsey and Tank are beasts, with Jackson in the mix of D-Line will be fearsome.
Can't say he's the player I'd have picked,
but he looks to be a great fit for Haley’s defense. It could have been much worse (like drafting Crabtree or Sanchez, for example).
Very disappointing
Last year we were getting great deals on players that fell to us. This just seems like an enormous reach for a non-pass rusher.
I agree
But I don’t really care if he’s a reach or not. He’s a great player.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the Richard Seymour pick
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Jackson CANNOT fail.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean he must not fail.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Seymour never had more than 8 sacks for a season in the NFL
yet he still went to several pro bowls. I love this pick. Like i said last week, the guy is the most versatile D-lineman in the draft. Pioli don’t give a shit about supposed experts rankings.
by rustdog on Apr 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This was not a #3 pick...
This guy is a great player, to be sure, but we needed a PASS-RUSHER!! This guy is a run stuffer. Now it shows that Pioli is trying to recreate something from another team and it can’t work that way. We needed to pick up an impact player and Jackson is NOT the impact player that is required of a #3 pick. We needed a guy like Aaron Curry to anchor our defense and make an immediate impact with run stuffing AND pass rushing.
Pioli and Haley can say all they want about trying to use him as a pass rush on a 3rd down situation (I watched and read the interviews on their thoughts on Jackson) and I believe that you need to build from the lines out, but you need to pick up an impact player with such a high 1st round pick like the #3 pick that we had. We better find some REAL GOOD diamonds in the ruff of the LB’s that are still there in the draft because we’ll DESPERATELY need them to manage through this year. I have a REAL bad feeling about our defense. It’s going to be better but I think we’re going to fight like hell just for mediocrity. Unless there’s something about Tyson Jackson or Haley/Pioli really, REALLY think that Hali can be the stand-up pass-rushing OLB then I’d feel a lot more comfortable with this pick. I know I’ll have to wait and see how things turn out but…just because Pioli picked Richard Seymore doesn’t mean that was our impact player that we needed with the #3 pick…
…Sorry…just venting. I was hoping for more…impact…oh, well…
There's no hope with dope...
Would you say that
if we had picked Curry instead? Im liking this pick. I think it will make our D instantly better. We had no one to play there and our LB’s would have guards and tackles on them all day long other wise. This was the smart pick, not sexy but smart.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
No surprise
Good pick. In Pioli we trust. Let the man do his job
I don’t get the deferential attitude. Pioli has made big mistakes plenty of times in the past, and I think this is another one.
by burntorangehorn on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait and see
My brother called this yesterday, but I’m not completely sold on it. He will fit well into the 3-4 but seems like a reach. Lets hope Piolli got it right.
This feels like the..
first time I got laid. I’ve been very excited and have been waiting a long time, now that its over, I’m o.k. with it but it wasn’t really that exciting!!
IN PIOLI WE TRUST
IN PIOLI WE TRUST IN PIOLI WE TRUST IN PIOLI WE TRUST IN PIOLI WE TRUST…
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
repeat that a few more times for me brother
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Dude a few posts above got it right.
Not sexy, but smart.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
We'll see
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Chiefs will continue to be the league's doormant
Last year many said we had the best draft. If this is the only pick we have today, it will be a very bad day. I think with this and the T.G. trade I’m losing faith in the new regime.
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000
I am about ready to scrap another whole season already.
Pioli is no longer the Don to me…just a wiseguy.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 25, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I need some confirmation on this
I heard from 610 a few months ago that due to how late we got Haley on board, they had decided not to fire the scouting department and let their contracts expire after this draft.
Which would mean that the same scouting department Peterson and Edwards brought in who have whiffed consistently on defensive linemen drafted….
A DEFENSIVE LINEMAN.
I iz afeared.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Apr 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
It's the same scouting department.
You think Scott Pioli is going over 300 hours of tape?
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by Ridiculous Matt on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
He did say that he watched that tape, didn’t he?
If anything was still up to the old scouts it would be the later picks…
I think he would go over the necessary tape to figure
out who to select #3 overall, yes.
That is a ridiculous assessment.
Considering he’ll be defined by this pick, you better bet he did his homework.
Okay, I'm just concerned
I would have rather we gotten a free agent defensive linemen. There’s a lot of fear for me in this pick.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Apr 25, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
If
Dorsey, Tank, and Jackson can hold strong on the line so our linebackers can roam and stop teams from running all over us I will be ok with this. I do not want any more of the flow through defense crap!
But what true LB's will we have to roam and stop teams...
because we have agreat (but aging) MLB that won’t play an entire game, another great (but aging as well) OLB that won’t play all game and DJ who will have to do most of the work again like he did last year and that just leaves us with…what? Williams? Hali?!?! Like I said in a previous post above, unless there’s something about Tyson Jackson that we don’t know about or Pioli/Haley know for a fact that Hali can be a stand-up pass-rushing OLB that we DESPERATELY need then I don’t see this going very well. I agree, we needed a DE for a 3-4 but we’re not running the 3-4 yet. We’re running a 4-3 under and we need a pass-rusher…a LB that rushes the QB and can get into the backfield. I’m worrying and I don’t want to worry, but I am…I think we’ll be fighting for mediocrity…maybe better than last year, but not by much because they’re all going to be learning just like they were last year.
There's no hope with dope...
We weren't taking Him
They knew he’d be there at 4
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
I am wondering the same.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
3 players the Jets 1st and 2nd round picks.
by WesternChief on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
1st 2nd and 3 players
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
Sanchez is the best QB in this draft...
great pick for the Jets. Didn’t he go to the Jets in our mock as well?
I do not snort the coke I only smoke...sensimilla.
Lions are to WR as the Chiefs are to DL
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
by Matt_Grbac on Apr 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
man that's painful
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
+1000 rec'd
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by Ridiculous Matt on Apr 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw a guy with a TG jersey
in the background on the NFL channel. I think I was more excited about that then our pick!
Jets fans....
…they are so amusing…
Sanchez is a 2nd or 3rd rounder any other year and they are that happy to go get him….sad
Browns get players
and 1st and 2nd round picks. Jets get sanchez pic. hmmmm
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
I'd take that at #3
WHY DIDN"T WE TAKE THAT AHH
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Cuz we weren't takin him!!!
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
Neither were the Browns
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
We had the worst defense last year.
I hope we never see it that bad again. Tank and Jackson will rip that line apart. The only thing I’m disappointed about is not seeing anymore chiefs action today.
If that changes I will be ecstatic.
(i didn’t mention dorsey for a reason)
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
I want Dorsey
But I’m startin’ to think he is gone
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
who do you think takes him?
OU SUCKS!!!!!!
by TexasFight83 on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah fingers crossed
but all that lead up…. I dunno how i feel about Jackson, but if we could get some more pics today… oh man. if not.. hmmm I’ll have to sit onit.
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I used to love this site.
Now, it’s just turned into a bastion of negativity.
Obviously, Pioli is doing his best. He’s a genius. Look at fucking New England.
Lighten up, man.
by rockchalk on Apr 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Tyson Jackson at 3 is not a genious move
Trading pick 3 for multiple picks is genious
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
I guarantee we weren't turning down offers.
We were actively seeking trade offers, for goodness’ sake.
Nothing reasonable came up, so we took what we thought was the BPA. Obviously, we disagreed on Curry.
I agree
Jackson elevates our entire d
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Yeah...
He knows what he’s doing. We’ll be fine
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway - An Onymous
by ratherfantastic on Apr 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Its just a draft
Everyone has the right to their opinion. And I will be there supporting the Chiefs until I die!
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
agree plus Pioli has 3 Super Bowl rings
so I think he knows how to pick talent for his system.
by WesternChief on Apr 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just wanted the sexy pick in Curry!
But I wanted DJ and he hasn’t been great!
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
+1
Len Dawson:
"Lamar Hunt had a dream and, the thing is, we had dreams, too. Just imagine the number of people that he has touched because he said, 'I'm going after this dream."'
by smokin iowa chief on Apr 25, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
everyone has a right
to be upset with the pick if they want. its not like everyone upset with the pick is no longer a chiefs fan.
stressful time dude
i think u should lighten up :)
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the pick....Jackson fits building the foundation mentality.
Most inconsistent play was our D-line, next to LB.
Just wished we were able to make a trade, and get another pick for a small trade down.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyson Jackson is a great pick
He’ll have more impact than Curry.
Any else remember the fact that we had 10 sacks last year?
Love the pick. I trust Pioli. He drafted DE Ty Warren #13 overall a few years back.
What about team sacks?
In the 3-4 you want the richard seymore guy that while he may only get 3 to 4 sacks he is opening holes for vrabel and our other rushers to get in there. Same as Docket didn’t get many sacks in the SB or any at all that I recall he opened up that front so the cards LBs were smacking Rothlisberger time after time.
by fixitquick79 on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Jackson didn't have many sacks!
But I f he fits…
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
A much better comparison is Seymour.
6th overall pick.
They’ll play the same position.
Both the Chiefs and New England, according to NFP, see Jackson as the next Seymour.
True
We’ll talk about Seymour comparisons in a later post.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Add a comparison to the D-linemen that Pioli has drafted.
Seymour, Wilfork and Warren. Not too shabby.
by WesternChief on Apr 25, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a long time
between now and Sept. We will be fine
Bunch of nobody players and a 2nd rounder and swap 1st rounders
What a joke. Maybe Pioli didn’t like those players. LOL
Just compared it for the fiance:
This is like getting a couple hundred bucks for a birthday present and putting it towards a suit and dress clothes. Yeah, it’s probably not going to be what you’d regularly want, but this is the stepping stone to get OTHER things you want.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
by webby37 on Apr 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
wow
the Browns now have 3 2nds a first and a starting caliber safety
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
16th according to who?
Who gives a f*@k what mel kiper and all the mock draft phonies ranked a player?
Where was Ryan Simms ranked when the chiefs drafted him?
One of the worst busts in the NFL this decade.
Nobody cares where he was “ranked” according to the yay-hoos on tv.
Everyone who wanted curry needs to realize something.
Linebacker in the 3-4 is a very blue collar job. They are super important players but its a position that is popular and accommodates a lot of different people.
Look at the Steelers and how they draft their LBs. Ever heard of James Harrison? Defensive player of the year? Went undrafted and cut from the team twice before the steelers built him up into a great LB.
Curry wasn’t worth it. We are building our defense back up from line back.
Don’t be so sure the first day is over for us anyway.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
If you want to have an excellent D, you need an excellent D-Line.
Linebackers are important too, sure. But I’d rather take those in other instances, in later rounds, and take one of the few, impact-level DE’s available.
I wanted Curry so bad and hated the thought of getting an OL
Now I wish we drafted OL…..go figure.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
I would rather Curry, trade, and then Monroe.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Tyson Jackson Stats
Year GP TKL TFL SACK
2004 RS – - –
2005 13 12 1.0 1.0
2006 13 37 13.0 10.0
2007 14 36 7.0 4.0
2008 13 36 10.5 4.5
Totals 53 121 31.5 19.5
He had 4 sacks in '08!?!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Dude, quit the ball washing
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Don't you think he'd get MORE sacks in a 4-3?
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Yes.
But I’m saying that sacks aren’t what is expected from a 3-4 DE. It’s an unsexy position, sure, but they have different jobs than just Dwight Freeney, for example.
Just watch Richard Seymour play. Constantly in the action. Constantly getting pressure. Constantly taking up blockers. Constantly stuffing gaps.
How many sacks did the LB's get at LSU with Jackson on LIne?
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Jackson is going to be the guy to flush the QB to Jack backer and DT
THat was the problem last year we had no one to flush the QB into sacks
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I agree.
Sorry, I thought you were against the pick.
No, I agree completely.
I don’t know the numbers, but that is what I’m bankign on.
How would you feel about Jackson on the outside shoulder of MacIntosh
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
93 isnt that taken
hell have to switch his number isnt thats tanks number why did they do a mock jersey with a taken jersey
andre smith
actually went before eugene monroe. what the hell?
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
No kidding .... a guy who left the combine
because of a lack of preparation and he goes 2nd O-line off the board.
I kept thinking to myself thats why Cincinnati is the Bungals!
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 25, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Just heard
Al trades all of his picks to Chiefs for a box of twinkies and rights to rub Pioli’s bald head.
I strive to be the person my dog thinks I am.
Hahaa....Got to hand it to Crazy Al
Just speed BABY!……Heyward-Bey over Crabtree and Maclin?
Oakland is always good for a laugh!
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He looks pissed about it too!
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think everyone wanted a trade:
The fact is, there was no reasonable trade available.
At least, that’s my guess. We offered Detroit a deal. I bet we offered some other teams good deals as well, but they just didn’t buy into it.
That’s life, sometimes.
If we had to stick at #3, I’d much rather have Tyson Jackson. More of a chance to make a bigger impact.
So youre saying you wanted Jackson?
lol
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Tyson Jackson on a conference call today..
“I’m a country boy,‘’ Jackson just said on a conference call from Louisiana. "I couldn’t take being in New York today. I’ve got to be with my family.’’
I like that!
I heard he took all of his family in during Katrina.
Seems like a good fit for KC. Hopefully him and Dorsey feed off each other (if we keep him)
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
haha
imagine if they have Russel, McFadden, Fargas, Higgins, and Crabtree… That’s a scary arsenal
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Hey guys....
Lets play pretend to make ourselves feel better….
We will pretend that we just now traded for Cassel/Vrabel with only our 2nd round pick and that we now have a Franchise Quarterback of the future and a solid LB that can teach our youngens….
Everyone feel better about our day 1 take now?
I tend to think that way
and I’m glad we got Cassel for what we did..
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Good job
But you had me at Hello
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I like getting Jackson
but I don’t know about this high. I’ll trust in Pioli though. Good luck to Jackson. What a helluva trade by the Browns.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!11
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Holy Shit!
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
DHB
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAHA!
Sorry Dieon
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAACCH
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Big time
And you can tell he is getting more and more upset with every pick.
by WesternChief on Apr 25, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHAAH
Heyward Bey HAHAHAHAHAHA so Raideresque hahaha
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Raiders just made our reach
Not a reach. Wow
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
+100
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF? Ha Al DAvis never seems to surprise
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
hehe...JUST SPEED BABY....in regards to the Hands??? .....ehh...some assembly required!
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahah!
for the sake of speed and for no other reason. Al Davis is a MORON!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Worse reach then our pick
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Crabtree doesn't fit in with the Raiders AT ALL.
He didn’t even run a 40. How the hell is Al supposed to make a determination based off of the 40-yard dash when Crabby didn’t run one?
Crabrtree to the 9ers.
And now we are all in agreement again. :)
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
Al Davis id DEAD
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel so much better now
THanks Raiders. Now all that needs to happen is for the Donkeys to do something equally as stooopid.
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
me too
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
LOVE IT!!
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
Fail.
Nobody in the top ten would’ve taken this kid. The Jets were interested in trading up as we saw, so we could’ve traded down and gotten Jackson or a similar player with the Jets pick, a second rounder and some players.
FAIL.
Farny being Farny.
We weren't gonna take Sanchez!!!!!
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
There was the risk that the Seahawks would have after us though
Clearly the Jets were interested. They traded up even without the threat of the Seahawks.
Bad pick.
Farny being Farny.
Obviously, the Seahawks were never a serious threat.
At least in the Jet’s minds.
Plus, did you see what Cleveland got? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just a 2nd round pick and a bunch of players who should never make a big impact.
I agree its a bad pick
But I doubt that Pioli didnt try a trade
It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!
CAPSZ AN MISSEPELLINS
MAEK IT EAZY TO MAEK ANYWAHNS WERDS SEEM STOOPOD.
DUH!
It doesn’t matter if Pioli “tried” to make a trade. He didn’t and he reached tremendously at the third pick. It is a FAILURE.
Farny being Farny.
He was not offered trades...
….he would have taken them…
As evidenced by the fact that he attempted to offer trades himself…
bad logic
+1
if Detroit wouldn’t trade with a +1 pick surplus and a 4th
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The raiders are selling lesson 1 to reaching in the draft.
For their 1st round pick back.
God they suck so much.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Crabtree = WTF?
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
This draft is like a bunch of monkeys throwing darts at the wall
Al Davs is old and blind, so his dart went way wide.
Youre not kidding.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Crab to Jags
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Or Maclin
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
DRAFT FAIL
for the Raiders hahaha
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
LOL absolutely nuts.
If that dude continues to fall, we need to find a way to get him
by KCSatchmo on Apr 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
My Gawd
Monroe, Crabtree and Maclin are STILL sitting on the board.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Crab to Jags no doubt
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
If Crabby goes to Jacksonvill
then Holt would be tutoring him. wow
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Either everyone (but the Raiders) are picking right and the NFL invited the wrong guys
or This is the dumbest draft ever
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
If there's anyway we could get back in and get Crabby, Oher, Maclin, Munroe wow that'd be amazing.
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions
Or for Rey Cush, or Matthews
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Jacksonville should take Raji.
Or Crabtree.
Or Monroe.
There are a lot of really good players leftover for the Jags.
Maybe Al saw who the Chiefs picked
And thought we were doing something really sneaky and underhanded.
“What the hell? Tyson Jackson at #3?! Well I can top that!”
by ChiefDJ on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
ha!
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It has to be
There’s no good explanation for that pick. Lol
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I would say Meth is more like it
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
These 3rd and 4th rated position players are making a second pick for us even more important
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
You said it
We’re going to have to sacrifice another really good player or two to get it done though.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Just trolling today
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
This feels like a VERY lopsided draft
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
favoring who? Browns?
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The best pick that makes most sense is the Rams and Jason Smith
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I was feeling a bit deflated after the Chiefs pick
But these last few picks, and the way the first round is playing out, has me so excited again.
me too.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It's just a crazy draft so far
It’s fun to watch.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm there with you.
Al was such a help too :) Leave it to him to make Chiefs fans happier than they were!
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet macklin gets picked before him.
I wanna see his face when it happens.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
it was his
“I can run a 4.5 40 on crutches” comment without backing it up
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I am shocked Jags are not going WR.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
They were injured.
They have no WRs though.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
We need a run on D-line/LB
to screw over Denver
by KCSatchmo on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
Packers have to be ecstatic.
In their dream scenario, Raji would fall to them. Their dreams are realized.
Crabtree will go to San Fran.
(Just like in my mock… ;)
If Packers don't take Raji
I’m going to go lock myself in the closet because I obviously don’t know anything.
me too
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
jags just made a damn good pick
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
I wish we could see the the Chiefs War Room
and see if theres anyone in there.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
No... I love Dorsey but he wont be a great NT in a 3-4
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Remember HERM picked Dorsey cause they were running a 4-3
and Herm thought he had like 3 more years left to coach our team
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
i understand that but still just wonder if 3-4 IS NOT A IMPOSSIBLE THOUGHT FOR HIM
by Chieffan_Toby on Apr 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
An obvious passing down
Bull Rush no run type play
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
not down on him
but his skillset isn’t a great fit and he has massive upside. That makes his trade value really good.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Here is an interview from Tyson Jackson
He says he tries to play his game after Julius Peppers…..good read…questions are some that some of us would probably ask him.
http://profootball.scout.com/2/768984.html
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
Nothing we can do about it
But be pissed….then not be pissed…then find reasons to like the guy
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
He'll prove to be a good pick
but he ain’t sexy, that’s for sure.
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Nope your right
Not big stats but big impact…he is a run stuffing DE….crazy but that is what he is.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
SF will pick the guy they thought was going to be there
Oher?
Someone will move up soon for Crabby
by KCSatchmo on Apr 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
every keeps saying that people are making the wrong picks
but maybe it’s us that are making the wrong picks. it’s the scouts that are out there see these players. they know who’s good not us. we have only espn and NFLN for info. maybe they got it wrong. we constently complain about inaccurate info from the media so why are we so shocked that the draft was so wrong
Just got an email from the Chiefs online pro shop asking me if i wanted to preorder Jackson's jersey
.
don't bother
someone else will be wearing that number within 3 years
The only measure of true success in the NFL is the Vince Lombardi trophy. Anything less is a rationalization.
HAHAHA!
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Daaang Negative Nancy!
We’re gonna be ok. He might not be best thing ever, but he’s gonna fill the need and make the big impacy NOW. Sweet!
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Haley said Jackson would play on the weakside
That suggests a 3-4 base and not the 4-3 Under some of us were talking about.
Explain please
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
If we are all making the wrong picks,
then the teams at the middle and bottom of the draft are loving it.. and will continue their winning ways
wow
raji to greenbay?
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Dag!
Upside: Tyson to KC. Curry to Seahawks. Raji to Green Bay… Sorry Denver
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Good point
"I can only imagine what it is going to be like in that town if we are fortunate to build a winner. You win there, you can sense that it would be something really special." - Todd Haley
great point
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Rajii holds a lot of potential in Green Bay
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
i JUST DONT KNOW WHY everybody wants to trade him for picks in this weak class
by Chieffan_Toby on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets talk about us getting to pick again today.
I don’t care who they throw away./
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
I would rather talk about
LJ being traded….either way i think we need to find a way back to a pick today…
yeah right
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
Dont like it...
Dont like it a bit. Too early to take him, not a top 10 pick. I mean there was Curry and Orakpo on the board and they take Jackson? What in the world…!?
In Pioli We Trust
I am just going to trust Pioli.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does it matter who made the pick?
If you don’t like it, you don’t like it. If you like it, you like it.
We can’t afford to let fans give anyone a honeymoon period.
Farny being Farny.
We were terrible against the run, pass, passrushing, you name it....
We have to get better at those ONE player at a time.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
We are on our way though
Pass rushing-Vrabel…….run d-Zach Thomas, now Tyson Jackson…..we are doing it slowly but surely
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
Are we at the 22nd pick yet?
I wanna know what we’re going to do. :/
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
The next real question should be
who does Buffalo take?
The next two picks should be obvious. The two best players left, IMO, with two needs matched up.
Raji to Green Bay.
Crabtree to SF.
I have no idea where Buffalo will go, though.
I sat in the 2nd row
Of the College World Series last year in Omaha when she was there. Oh my…
by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
nope, maclin
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
then orakpo
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
who's going to the niners?
This is one crazy draft
by Eastcoastransplant on Apr 25, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions
see above
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone in the AP Mock draft
get thier pick right?
I do not snort the coke I only smoke...sensimilla.
crabtree it is!
I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'
Its got to be Crabtree
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Need help with info
Why wouldn’t the Chiefs just wait a couple picks to select Jackson. Not saying a trade just waiting. Its not like there was any worry about anyone else selecting him that high. I feel like a DE at #3 is going to make a TON of money. I like Jackson just not too sure about paying him Jared Allen type money right now
Kansas City was presented with no options to trade down. The teams that wanted Sanchez knew that we were not going to take him, as we already have our QB for this season. So, they chose not to trade with us.
While our selection is technically a reach, it’s who we wanted anyway. Besides, TJ was slated to go in the top 10. So its not even that MUCH of a reach.
so they have Crabtree
who’s going to throw to him now
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Bills go RB, LB?
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Maybin
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Tyrone Jackson
Seemed to skyrocket up the boards late, but never saw him rated higher than 7th. (In rankings not Mocks) Most had him in the teens.
This makes him technically a reach at #3 (whether you like him or not) and as with any pick that IS a reach, you (as a GM) are basically saying “I am smarter than all of you people”. That’s fine, and I dig that Pioli is willing to go against the grain, but if you do it, you HAD BETTER BE RIGHT!
Preferably in a big way. With the players they passed up to get him, if he is not a stud, it will (and should) be considered a bust.
Until I see otherwise, I will just have to trust Pioli and hope for the best.
Yall Not Real
you guys or starting to make me mad just last week it was don pioli in all this other talk on how good he is now that he got a guy yall dont wont us to have yall or made what type of Chiefs fans or yall it’s a good pick up i mean hes a good run stoper thats what the line needs to do in a 3-4 the LB or the ones that need to get to the passer in yall have not even got a chance to see him in the nice looking chiefs red and glod so just give it some time see how things turn out be 4 yall start talking bad on them.in what happen 2 yall saying we cant go wrong with or pick so what the hell yall need to get it rite man good job Don i love the pick up start from the inside in work yo way out
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