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ESPN rumors update

I realize some like to sleep in on Saturday, so I thought I would update what ESPN is saying throughout the day prior to the draft.  I will continue to add rumors to this list below.  Happy Draft Day!

As of 7AM

Rams - Sanchez?

Jets - After an early morning draft meeting there is a strong chance they WILL move for Sanchez.

Boldin - Staying in Arizona after all?

Patriots - Moving up into Top 10 for an offensive player?  Mortenson says possibly Crabtree?  No f''n way!

Update as of 10:37

Rams - Most likely won't go Sanchez.  Their GM acts like things are evolving by the minute and has no idea as of yet who they will pick.  Although it seemed he did lean towards OT.

 

 

 

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Bucs (#19)

Supposedly very into Freeman and possibly looking to leapfrog the Jets (#17).

Good idea CS.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 AM CDT reply actions  

looks like the Bucs may not need to

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great Fanpost

this will be a great post to put all the hype up to draft time… Unfortunately or fortunately I will be in the woods up untill then…

GO CHIEFS!!!!

by ravenhawk on Apr 25, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions  

mobile.arrowheadpride.com

utilize the mobile site ravenhawk.

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does my dream qualify as a rumor?

I had a dream that we drafted Jason Smith.

by Keyser Sose on Apr 25, 2009 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

do your dreams come true often?

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

i know what you mean

if mine ever came true Ashley Greene would be sitting in my lap right now.

by Leaf on Apr 25, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lots of rumors of the Pats trying to move into the Top 10

Contrary to the Mort, most are suggesting it’s for a defensive player, possibly Tyson Jackson.

by Keyser Sose on Apr 25, 2009 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

What if....

 The Chiefs take Curry and the Patriots take Tyson Jackson? Could this be the back end of the Cassel/Vrabel trade? We know the Chiefs want Jackson and I am sure the Pats would love another dinamic defensive player. I suppose the Chiefs could get their #2 back or maybe another pick plus Jackson in return for Curry. Just a thought that kinda struck me…..

by BigRedChief on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

at first I was thinking you were saying curry straight up for jackson. I guess I don’t see how exactly this would be the back end of the Cassel/Vrabel trade?

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

With a little wink wink nudge nudge

I seriously believe there is more to that trade, weather on paper or not. A 2nd rounder for a franchised QB AND a pro bowl veteran….. come on. It’s the old boys club, some of the things they do make you scratch your head but in the end everyone gets a good deal!

by BigRedChief on Apr 25, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe he did do Pioli a favor. maybe pioli wanted a year to pay belichick back, by seeing if Cassel was a fluke, or see if it was the players around him that made him shine.

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love the Cassel/Vrabel trade

but the Pats could have gotten more and given up less (Vrabel). Maybe its just one friend doing another friend a solid. And that is great, sure helps a GM who is trying to turn around a struggling franchise. I would rather be on Bilechek’s friend list than on his shit list (Mangini) that is for sure.

by BigRedChief on Apr 25, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

They basically got a 1st round pick for them.

The bottom of the 1st and top of the second is primed with talent and the reason a lot of teams are wanting to move down (in addition to the money). That pick was worth a lot more than a just a “2nd rounder.”

I don’t disagree with you though. Whether it’s today or sometime down the road, there’s more to the whole thing.

by JComp11 on Apr 25, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

i see how they could work together on the trade your proposing, but I don’t think the cassel trade will have anything to do with it.

I do think that Pioli is much more comfortable working with an organization he’s familiar with.

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Question

Does anyone else think the SBNation site takes forever to load? I don’t know why but it is slowwwww today.

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

it seems like going back and forth through different teams is a slow process. I fixed it with a little right click and open in new tab

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we either trade

or go o-line.

Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!

by Eric Allen on Apr 25, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I really really really hope we trade and pick up some more picks/players

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great idea, Swagger.

Also, ESPNNews has a live pre-draft show running all day.

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

top o’ the mornin’ to ya DTR

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Happy draft day!

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was gonna follow you

on twitter, maybe I entered the wrong name? Whats up funnyman?

Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!

by Eric Allen on Apr 25, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eric!

Here’s my twitter page. I don’t tweet much, maybe once a day, and it is usually something sarcastic. :)

Be sure to follow PARADE too.

I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.

by DThomasReigns on Apr 25, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reporting for Draft Day

Good Drafting wishes for the new KC Chiefs Now go hit’em in the mouth!

by KC GAMER on Apr 25, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Seriously

I can’t believe ESPN hasnt had more reports than the ones a couple of hours ago! WTF?

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Jackson? #3? Hmmmm.....

I think we take Curry and the Pats trade up. They take Jackson, we make that trade and receive a pick next year?

I think that rumor holds some water…

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17

by 306008 on Apr 25, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

That would be ok

Just replace ’pick next year" with “the 2nd rounder we already gave them” and I love it.

by KCScuba on Apr 25, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought about that... lol

It’d be great for us.

I’m just worried that this is Vrabel, Cassel, Jackson for Round 2 and Aaron Curry.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17

by 306008 on Apr 25, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is no way that we would trade straight up.

The only benefit to us is paying less money for Jackson. They would have to throw in another pick or the whole league would be running around with pitchforks.

by KCScuba on Apr 25, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

What do the Pats have to offer? Here are their picks in the first three rounds:

Round 1, Pick 23 (23)
Round 2, Pick 2 (34) (From Chiefs)
Round 2, Pick 15 (47) (From Chargers)
Round 2, Pick 26 (58)
Round 3, Pick 25 (89)
Round 3, Pick 33 (97) (Compensatory selection)

The #97 can’t be traded, but the rest can. I don’t know that they’re going to want to trade the three picks it would cost to get the #3.

by burntorangehorn on Apr 25, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Pats already offered
  1. and #47 to the Jags for #8 according to Peter King.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

It'd be nice

If Pioli can make his moves and trade this 3 to the pats for their 1st and 2nd and probalby somethin else. Then we can take Connor Barwin with that 1st.

by NakedDave on Apr 25, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Pats wont move

Pats probably wont move up, profootballweekly reporting they have no desire to move up. That earlier reports are false.

by tdbowe on Apr 25, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peter King > ProFootballWeekly

I’m going with PK on this one. He reported they offered their 23 and 47 for Jags 8 but they declined.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peter King

Thats seems right for a trade. King usually reliable. Isnt he at headquarters today at Arrowhead

by tdbowe on Apr 25, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

twitter.com/si_peterking

by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice

where’s our offer?

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

They probably don’t need to give up that much to get the guy they’re looking for.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 25, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dallas Morning News' Rick Gosselin has us taking Tyson Jackson

This guy is, by most measures, the most accurate predictor of the first 100 picks. Of course keep in mind that the accuracy bar is very very low.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/nfl/stories/042509dnsponflmockdraft.3ed83e9.html

by Keyser Sose on Apr 25, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's a real litmus test for Pioli

Sp taking Jackson at #3 is against the grain. If it works out we will all call him a genius, if it doesn’t, it may be the first true indicator as to his ability to scout talent.

just keep matriculating the ball down the field !

by SoCalChief on Apr 25, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a great point

If he ‘reaches’ for Jackson and misses on him, it’ll get ugly in a hurry. Recall last year the Pats ‘reaching’ for Jerod Mayo … out of nowhere … and he kicked ass b/c he was great in their system. We’ll see….

by Keyser Sose on Apr 25, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel that Mangini and McDaniels don't have a chance

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's like they both have Belicheck's arrogance but without the same skill set.

Players may like them at first, but they’ll lose respect quickly. McDaniels is well on his way already.

by Keyser Sose on Apr 25, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

How could you lose respect for a highschool student with acne?

I'm currently reading "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" and it feels like we got ourselves a McMurphy on our hands....wheelin' and dealin'

by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 25, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could they move out of #3

Kansas city star says we offered the #3 pick and a fourth rounder for their 20th and 33rd pick and they they declined it. From rotoworld, said the source was kansas city star

by tdbowe on Apr 25, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

If that was true

Thats a discount of 770 points and the Lions declined it.
That would a discount of a 1st round pick.
Lions will never get better like that.

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I even forgot the 4th rounder in equation

you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp

by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 25, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

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