Report: Lions Complete Contract with Curry; Waiting to Do the Same with Stafford
Here is a quick note before I head out the door from the real job. Apparently, according to one of those ever so popular "league sources", the Detroit Lions have completed a contract with LB Aaron Curry and are now waiting to see if they can do the same with QB Matt Stafford.
According to a league source, the Detroit Lions have completed contract terms with Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and the team is now waiting to see if it can reach an agreement with their No. 1 target, Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford. The source said the Lions will not allow a decision to go beyond Friday and if a deal isn't done with Stafford by then, the team will sign Curry and take him with the first overall draft pick.
So the Lions really want Stafford but are doing their due diligence with Curry and making sure they have a deal for him wrapped up. Naturally, Stafford's agent wants to wait:
The source said he believes that Stafford's agent, Tom Condon, will eventually agree to a deal with the Lions but probably won't do it until it gets closer to the Friday deadline. The price of the contract can only go up in the final hours so Condon will likely push the issue as far as he feels he has something to gain.
Curry? Stafford? Which will it be?
From the Kansas CIty Chiefs perspective, which player going first is more beneficial? I have to say Curry because I think more teams will be willing to trade up for a QB rather than a LB.
Sorry for the rush post. I'll jump in the comments when I get home for the day.
H/T to WesternChief for the story link. Check out Pride of Detroit for more.
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I don't think Pioli takes Curry regardless
With Pioli’s history with linebackers, I simply don’t think theres any way he takes Curry. I think he’s much more likely to take whichever Tackle the Rams don’t take than Curry.
That being the case, it would be much more beneficial to the Chiefs if the Lions took Stafford to leave the smidgeon of a possibility, as slim as it might be, teams would trade up to get Sanchez ahead of the Seahawks.
I wondered
If the Lions passed on Stafford, and he fell to the Chiefs, are there any teams out there that Stafford rated that much higher over Sanchez that they would jump up to get him?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not
I would think that if Stafford is still on the board teams will be content to sit back and wait to see when Stafford comes off and THEN start working to trade up for Sanchez.
I think Stafford is the better QB, but with the money involved in a top QB teams will want to wait as long as they can and still get their guy.
If Stafford AND Sanchez are still there, I don’t think the Chiefs will get any offers to trade spots for a QB.
I agree with this
Although I don’t think the Chiefs will get any offers either way, its even more unlikely if both QB’s are there.
Hmm
I think we’re taking Curry, but could easily see us going OT, and would be okwith it.
With Pioli’s history with linebackers, I simply don’t think theres any way he takes Curry.
I’ll take issue with that statement. Last year he took a LB #10. I can understand and appreciate the argument against going standup LB that early, but to say you don’t think there’s any way it happens…there are a lot of people paid a lot of money to know these things that would disagree with you.
Them getting Stafford seems better
Because then it’s Sanchez or nothing for a lot of clubs, thereby increasing desperation for a trade up. If Stafford and Sanchez are available, our pick may be less valuable.
home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!
I agree.
Also, if we can’t trade out, then we have 2 options at a position of need to take still left. OT and LB.
If Curry goes #1, we are really only left with an OT if we can’t trade out.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
But
What teams are really expecting to have Stafford available? I mean the Rams didn’t even work him out (and they worked out Sanchez).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its easier for the Chiefs to trade if Stafford goes #1
I’m of the opinion, that if both QB’s are there, thats more likely for other teams that one of them will fall. Many are saying Sea likes Sanchez over Stafford anyway, if thats the case, unless you think CLE is going to take a QB, why not wait and let one of them fall to Jax at #8 and deal into that pick?
I think its actually harder to trade the pick under this scenario…but I also think its just about impossible to trade the pick either way.
This is just negotiation tactics anyway, I think the Lions are taking Stafford.
A Great negotiating tactic
I should say.
If Stafford doesn’t go #1, he could easily fall all the way to #8.
If you’re Det and you let this leak that Curry is essentially signed, you can say to Stafford, look, take the $35 million we have guaranteed, or take your chances negotiating wherever you get picked down the line. If you don’t like it, fine, we’ve got a deal worked out with Curry.
Its too bad for the Lions (and J. Smith) that Smith and Stafford have the same agent, b/c its essentially taken him out of the running.
Pride of Detroit has
this on their front page, quoting Curry as saying he will sign for less than Long did with the Dolphins last year. Saving that kind of cheeze and having guy like Curry that is pretty much bust proof might be enough for the Lions.
They got to be pretty fed up with all the first round failures they have had in recent history.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 22, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Actually
The Lions’ fans want Curry over Stafford badly.
I saw one of those ESPN Sports Nation polls that every state in the country (majority wins) voted for the Lions to take Stafford…except Michigan (where Curry was the choice).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct.
Many lion’s fans will mutiny if they take Stafford. Although I wonder how they’ll feel when Stafford outplays Duante Culpepper.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Gunther will turn him into Derrick Johnson
decent player but not up to the hype.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ernie Sims was supposed to be an outstanding LB too and how's that working?
I think if the Lion’s take Curry that will benefit the Chiefs desire to trade down because more teams will want to jump up to get either of the QBs or the OTs more than moving up for Curry.
Sims Has Been Good
He had a down year last year, but that was mainly due to a shoulder injury as I recall. And the rest of his LB was freaking awful.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Sims is decent but he's not a franchise
Stafford has the potential to be a franchise QB.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I am officially unsure which is better at this point.
There are very good points being made for both sides already here. Good job, guys.
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday...and Janet. Actually, just Janet.
I've been saying this for a while
If Curry becomes a Lion our trade down possibilities diminish. Teams will be more likely to trade with Cincinnati and Cleveland than us now because the Seahawks will take Sanchez before they take Stafford because Sanchez was groomed in the West Coast system that Seattle runs.
If this deal is finalized, were looking at Monroe, Jackson, or Smith as the #3 pick in the draft
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
prime any stats on when long signed last year wasnt it like a couple days before the
draft.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
He was signed on the Tuesday before the draft
So, like yesterday this year. But I remember the League said the #2 team couldn’t negotiate with the next pick.
I have a question about this into the league office and I’m hoping to hear back soon.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
cool ya i know it was like wow the guy was walking around with a contract in place
was kinda cool but takes away from the guessing
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
i seen tyson play wasnt really impressed but if we trade down get him and get ricki jean f
daamn we would be looking sick ill give you that.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
I just dont think Pioli could be comfortable
Knowing how terrible our defense was last season and take an Offensive Lineman. He upgraded the OL with Goff and got us our Franchise QB…now lets get some young Defensive impact player on our team. I would love Curry but would be even happy with Maulaluga or Laurinaitis
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
Yeah
But for how long? Those guys are just leak stoppers…..like Plumbers Putty. We need one of the top LB in the class to learn from these guys while we have them.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
And if we trade down
We could end up with one of them PLUS a good RT.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
I don't think Pioli views vets as just mentors for younger guys
Piolis history says he’s perfectly happy getting these old vets on their way out every year if theres one out there.
Pioli isn’t Herm. He is about winning today more than building for the future.
If we want to win today
We need more defense help. Vrabel and Thomas cant do it by themselves. Defense wins Championships is what I think. You actually think getting an OL will translate into wins? No way. Stopping the opposing team from scoring is what translates into wins…
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
Actually yes, I do think getting an Offensive line will help create wins
I’m shocked you don’t.
You know what else helps you win games? Being able to actually run the football.
Did you watch the Cardinals last season....
Proves a running game is not necessary….yeah they had an amazing passing game…but running the ball isnt always a must. Their defense turned it on in the playoffs….our defense turned it off all year.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
I agree OL is very important
But do you think ours is so bad off we need an OL with first round pick? We just drafted Albert last season and signed Goff….We cant stay focused on OL when our defense is in shambles. Everyone talks about our good up and coming secondary..well stats say our pass defense was horrible as well. It wouldnt bother me if we spend our entire draft on defense.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
One thing is for certain....
with all this wheeling and dealing,…..atleast we dont have Carl and Germ calling the shots on this one….
Yeah for sure.
We would probably end up trading all our picks to the Lions so we can take John Parker Wilson at #1
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
I hope
Curry goes #1 & Monroe goes #2 so just so all Chiefs mock drafts get turned on their head
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 22, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
Boy
do I love college recruiting but fuck me am I tired of mock drafts
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Dang
That is a very good reason for that outcome. Great valid points shuffle! Awesome stuff!
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
Says the guy...
who
A)not only has Grbac in his user name, but avatar too
B)thinks a running game isn’t important
C)is fine with his spending all of our draft picks on defense
You’re barking up the wrong tree here, buddy
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 22, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHA!!
Dont get your panties in a wad Shuffle….I am just picking at you.
As for Grbac…its always been my name on the internet. Not a fan anymore just kept the name. Thought the pic would be funny. Running game is very important, BUT, you can win without one. and yes I would love if we spent our draft on defense….atleast 5 of them.
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
Nobody
Mentioned taking Stafford at # 3
The way the draft has been scripted was Stafford was gone.
The Chiefs haven’t looked at him I think.
NOT to start a controversy, well maybe, what if Pioli likes Stafford
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
Come on Steve
Your giving me a big headache with all these scenerios….just stop it already!! lol jk
Pain is Temporary ~ Pride is Forever!!
I was just thinking
we could take Stafford at No. 3, then that gives us additional time to make a trade with someone, say the 49ers or the Jets. We have the guy they want, now all they have to do is get creative and make an offer. And if nothing comes of it, we have a QB we can groom for 2 or 3 years and allow us to trade Thiggy. Or we can groom him and trade him in two years if that QB crop is not good.
It's a thought but a high stakes gamble
nobody really knows how many times this might have happened and the picking team was stuck.
I can only think of Rivers and possibly Elway because he held out on team that drafted him.
Maybe others remember more.
BUT I wouldn’t chance it as this could be something that blows up in Pioli’s face, it would be similar to sitting on the pick and letting the time expire, the league and other GM’s would get their revenge.
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I love D
Tyson Jackson and 2 LBs for Vrabel and Thomas to groom.
KC LOVES defense
I think you get more reaction out of the crowd with a 4th down D-Stuff or a critical down QB Sack than you might get with the 4 TD of a pending blowout. We were known for D in 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. The fans were brought up that way. SEE Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas. WE ARE Big-12 country. Offense is johnny come lately here. We know D wins Championships because we DID.
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
interesting
If they take Curry and he has indeed signed for less that Long signed last year that has set the bar for contracts a lot lower than most GMs might have thought. Does this mean we won’t mind hanging on to the #3 pick or alternatively other GMs might htink it not so bad to trade up to a #3 contract.
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
I think a whole lot players agents are pissed off right now
and a whole lot of players will not be in training camp on time
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Take Curry!
Detroit should take Curry. It would at the very least be good for PR that he had no interest in trying to squeeze every penny out of the team.
Still think all the Seattle talk about Sanchez is smokescreen
they don’t need him, and nobody has Sanchez significantly ranked above Stafford for real, I think it’s a bunch of talk. If they are both available at #3 its a bidding war to avoid getting stuck with the next Ryan Leaf, Chiefs get a money ass trade down.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 22, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions
Thank goodness
the photographer/captioner cleared up which one was Curry in the photo. If you didn’t catch it he’s the one on the right.
"if our players are half as excited as I am right this moment then TonyG will win his first playoff game next season. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind."
Nobody's Trading Down
Curry in the first
Kruger in the third
it’s a lock
I'll teach you how to get you ranch dressing in her hidden valley!!!
nahhhhhhh
Nothing is a ‘lock’.
Plenty of trade downs will happen. Hopefully the chiefs will be one of them.
But that doesn’t matter. Ill come back on here to give you a hard time when we either dont draft curry, dont draft kruger, or trade down. Why?
Because I hate when people act like something is 100%
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
Whoa there, Jux
‘Plenty of trade downs will happen?’ How can you be so sure? Don’t say it like its 100%!
Mostly messing with you, but if you’re saying there will be trade downs in the top 5, I’d be willing to wager against it.
Isn't Kruger like 26 and apparently has lost one Kidney
We could get Peppers who’s 30 and proven if we wanted to pull the trigger
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
IMO...if Detroit takes Curry....
Seattle will take Stafford. Seattle might even consider moving into the 2nd pick to grab Stafford preventing any other team interested in Matt to move ahead of them.
Stafford is a better prospect of the two QB’s available. It doesn’t matter about what systemt the young QB’s ran in college, it always falls on the experience and talent of the QB prospect.
Seattle would have taken Sanchez at 5 only because Stafford should have been off the board when the Seahawks would make their choice. If Matt is still there after Detriot makes their pick, Seattle will be jockeying for position.
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