Report: Lions Complete Contract with Curry; Waiting to Do the Same with Stafford
by Chris Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT
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Here is a quick note before I head out the door from the real job. Apparently, according to one of those ever so popular "league sources", the Detroit Lions have completed a contract with LB Aaron Curry and are now waiting to see if they can do the same with QB Matt Stafford.
According to a league source, the Detroit Lions have completed contract terms with Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and the team is now waiting to see if it can reach an agreement with their No. 1 target, Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford. The source said the Lions will not allow a decision to go beyond Friday and if a deal isn't done with Stafford by then, the team will sign Curry and take him with the first overall draft pick.
So the Lions really want Stafford but are doing their due diligence with Curry and making sure they have a deal for him wrapped up. Naturally, Stafford's agent wants to wait:
The source said he believes that Stafford's agent, Tom Condon, will eventually agree to a deal with the Lions but probably won't do it until it gets closer to the Friday deadline. The price of the contract can only go up in the final hours so Condon will likely push the issue as far as he feels he has something to gain.
Curry? Stafford? Which will it be?
From the Kansas CIty Chiefs perspective, which player going first is more beneficial? I have to say Curry because I think more teams will be willing to trade up for a QB rather than a LB.
Sorry for the rush post. I'll jump in the comments when I get home for the day.
H/T to WesternChief for the story link. Check out Pride of Detroit for more.
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I don't think Pioli takes Curry regardless
With Pioli’s history with linebackers, I simply don’t think theres any way he takes Curry. I think he’s much more likely to take whichever Tackle the Rams don’t take than Curry.
That being the case, it would be much more beneficial to the Chiefs if the Lions took Stafford to leave the smidgeon of a possibility, as slim as it might be, teams would trade up to get Sanchez ahead of the Seahawks.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 22, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wondered
If the Lions passed on Stafford, and he fell to the Chiefs, are there any teams out there that Stafford rated that much higher over Sanchez that they would jump up to get him?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not
I would think that if Stafford is still on the board teams will be content to sit back and wait to see when Stafford comes off and THEN start working to trade up for Sanchez.
I think Stafford is the better QB, but with the money involved in a top QB teams will want to wait as long as they can and still get their guy.
If Stafford AND Sanchez are still there, I don’t think the Chiefs will get any offers to trade spots for a QB.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this
Although I don’t think the Chiefs will get any offers either way, its even more unlikely if both QB’s are there.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
for all of the “what’s wrong with Stafford – he couldn’t win at Georgia” He still is the prototypical QB (strong arm, great size, played against the toughest college competition) Someone will want to jump up and get him and I don’t think Pioli will ask for an arm and a leg to get the #3 pick.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why trade up to #3 and take him
If you think Sea likes Sanchez more?
Why not trade to #5 and take him there? Or even later if he’ll fall.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
However you look at it
Whether Stafford really is that good, or if he’s the benefit of a crappy QB class this year, I think there is a team out there that would definitely move up. The next QB likely to be taken is what…7? 8?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I think we’re taking Curry, but could easily see us going OT, and would be okwith it.
With Pioli’s history with linebackers, I simply don’t think theres any way he takes Curry.
I’ll take issue with that statement. Last year he took a LB #10. I can understand and appreciate the argument against going standup LB that early, but to say you don’t think there’s any way it happens…there are a lot of people paid a lot of money to know these things that would disagree with you.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
The last time his LBs were in dire shape? He took Mayo at #10.
The Chiefs LBs are in bad shape. I think there’s a definitely possibility (maybe even a good one according to some people) that Curry is the pick.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A one time deal does not mean the beginning of a trend
Mayo proved that he was well worth the #10 pick last year on a team.
And theres an ENORMOUS difference between taking a linebacker at #10 and taking one at #3.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 22, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Difference????
the only difference is Money…
by Battle AXE on Apr 22, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli could gamble on picks like that in NE
with all the talent they had, he cant miss on this and thats why i think he will go tackle
by cassel4prez on Apr 22, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't be surprised at all if we go OT
But Curry is by most accounts the safest pick in the draft. As far as not wanting to gamble, he’s your guy.
If Smith is gone especially, Monroe is less safe than Curry. There are teams that failed Monroe on thier physical.
Again, not saying we won’t take him, I just don’t think it will be because he’s the safest pick.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be so fast about the Tackle prospects....
According to Nawrocki the top 3 OLT are not rated as high as the top OLT from the ’08 draft class.
How do this year’s OTs compare to last year’s?
1:48 Tim, last year’s OT class was significantly deeper and stronger overall than this year’s. Some NFL evaluators argue that this year’s best offensive tackle ― whether it be Jason Smith, Eugene Monroe or Andre Smith ― was not better than the fourth or fifth offensive tackle drafted in last year’s class. Last year’s OT class was as good as their may ever have been in NFL history, with eight first rounders, most of whom stepped into the starting lineup readily and played at a high level as rookies. It’s unlikely to be duplicated, this year or down the road.
If this class of top OLT are only rated to be as good as the 4th or 5th best from last years class wouldn’t it be more prudent to take one of the BPA in this class?. Who happens to also fit a need for us at LB?
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by aPacificChief on Apr 23, 2009 5:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You obviously haven't read some of my other comments
I want us to take Curry, and still think its the most likely scenario. It’s my #1 choice, after that, it’d be Smith or Monroe.
I also think Nawrocki’s a moron, so his opinion, I discount out of hand, I’ve put that in several comments as well.
He says the Chiefs are taking Jackson #3, GB’s taking Crabtree #9, we’re dealing Dorsey and a top 5 deal was almost made Tues. night. Yeah, I think he’s FOS. We’ll see, maybe he’ll prove me wrong.
by kcsno56 on Apr 23, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The above comment wasen't addressed so much to you...
But more adding to what you had to say about the offensive tackle position in general.
I don’t care too much for Nawrocki also, I liked Baushbaum more myself. But Nawrocki is in a better position to hear what other teams and their scouts have to say about players coming out of college than most. So we can’t completely discount comments that he has to make about his scouting.
The predictions about what teams trying to do or ought to do (in the draft) is more in the realm of him dabbling in Kiperism.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 23, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Them getting Stafford seems better
Because then it’s Sanchez or nothing for a lot of clubs, thereby increasing desperation for a trade up. If Stafford and Sanchez are available, our pick may be less valuable.
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by Holmeslice on Apr 22, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Also, if we can’t trade out, then we have 2 options at a position of need to take still left. OT and LB.
If Curry goes #1, we are really only left with an OT if we can’t trade out.
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by DThomasReigns on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
What teams are really expecting to have Stafford available? I mean the Rams didn’t even work him out (and they worked out Sanchez).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its easier for the Chiefs to trade if Stafford goes #1
I’m of the opinion, that if both QB’s are there, thats more likely for other teams that one of them will fall. Many are saying Sea likes Sanchez over Stafford anyway, if thats the case, unless you think CLE is going to take a QB, why not wait and let one of them fall to Jax at #8 and deal into that pick?
I think its actually harder to trade the pick under this scenario…but I also think its just about impossible to trade the pick either way.
This is just negotiation tactics anyway, I think the Lions are taking Stafford.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Great negotiating tactic
I should say.
If Stafford doesn’t go #1, he could easily fall all the way to #8.
If you’re Det and you let this leak that Curry is essentially signed, you can say to Stafford, look, take the $35 million we have guaranteed, or take your chances negotiating wherever you get picked down the line. If you don’t like it, fine, we’ve got a deal worked out with Curry.
Its too bad for the Lions (and J. Smith) that Smith and Stafford have the same agent, b/c its essentially taken him out of the running.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
How does Condon do that?
Honestly…if you’re Jason Smith, isn’t this a MAJOR concern for you? This should be screamed across the TV waves that Jason Smith could be getting a raw deal here.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's paying any attention today
Then he knows that he’s f8cked. He should can his agent now and get new representation before its too late.
The other thing is, its in Condon’s best interest to have Stafford go #1, b/c then he has the #1 and #2 pick (likely). Whereas if Smith went #1, Stafford could fall, and there’s less commish for him.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't hire an agent for 5 days after you fire them
But wouldn’t Jason Smith see this coming when he hired Condon?
I wonder if Stafford signs for below market and if the Rams take Smith they’ll get a bigger deal.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds right (hiring/firing agent)
Although I feel like I remember guys canning thier agent the night before the draft in the past and then signing, but maybe the rules were different then.
Either way, I think in the end, Stafford will sign a slightly cheaper deal than he’d have gotten otherwise, and then Smith will go to the Rams.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford's best move
Is to accept less money because if he doesn’t get picked he’ll likely slide to the 4th pick, maybe 3rd if the Chiefs trade. Either way, whatever the contract is for, let’s say, the Chiefs – that should be the floor for Stafford.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valid point Prime
I think that if Curry goes #1 that this opens up a plethora of opportunities for us to trade down. I can definitely see the Jets wanting to jump up and grab Stafford from the 8th spot.
If that’s the case, this draft can give us some great opportunities to acquire and fill a lot of holes. The Jets don’t have a QB starter.Not one.
I’ve got this feeling Goodell comes out and says: “With the #3 pick the Chiefs have traded with the Jets and they have chosen Matt Stafford”.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
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by THE_TRUTH on Apr 22, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Lions pick Curry at #1
We can then trade our #3 pick for him and the Lions 2nd and 3rd rounders. Because players are always valued less then Picks. Meyhew might fall for that?
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF they can come to an agreement on the contract
If Detroit goes 1 and 3, that’s a lot of money going out and I don’t see Ford spending a lot on the team.
I predict they’ll have one of the lowest team salaries like they did last year (and the Chiefs as well)….even with the #1 pick.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
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by THE_TRUTH on Apr 22, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just joking.
Saying we could trade for Curry AFTER the lions pick him….I guess I wasnt clear enough.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aha...gotcha....np
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"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Apr 22, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were Jason Smith...
I’d be ticked except for the fact that this would keep me from playing in Detroit. Plus, he’ll probably end up in St. Louis and get paid more money than Curry in Detroit.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure you'd agree
That Smith would rather go #1 to Detroit than #2 to STL.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pride of Detroit has
this on their front page, quoting Curry as saying he will sign for less than Long did with the Dolphins last year. Saving that kind of cheeze and having guy like Curry that is pretty much bust proof might be enough for the Lions.
They got to be pretty fed up with all the first round failures they have had in recent history.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 22, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
The Lions’ fans want Curry over Stafford badly.
I saw one of those ESPN Sports Nation polls that every state in the country (majority wins) voted for the Lions to take Stafford…except Michigan (where Curry was the choice).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct.
Many lion’s fans will mutiny if they take Stafford. Although I wonder how they’ll feel when Stafford outplays Duante Culpepper.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He won't be bust proof
if Gun decides to coach LBs again.
by Sudden on Apr 22, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gunther will turn him into Derrick Johnson
decent player but not up to the hype.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ernie Sims was supposed to be an outstanding LB too and how's that working?
I think if the Lion’s take Curry that will benefit the Chiefs desire to trade down because more teams will want to jump up to get either of the QBs or the OTs more than moving up for Curry.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sims Has Been Good
He had a down year last year, but that was mainly due to a shoulder injury as I recall. And the rest of his LB was freaking awful.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Apr 22, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sims is decent but he's not a franchise
Stafford has the potential to be a franchise QB.
by WesternChief on Apr 22, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am officially unsure which is better at this point.
There are very good points being made for both sides already here. Good job, guys.
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by DThomasReigns on Apr 22, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying this for a while
If Curry becomes a Lion our trade down possibilities diminish. Teams will be more likely to trade with Cincinnati and Cleveland than us now because the Seahawks will take Sanchez before they take Stafford because Sanchez was groomed in the West Coast system that Seattle runs.
If this deal is finalized, were looking at Monroe, Jackson, or Smith as the #3 pick in the draft
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by 808NaNz808 on Apr 22, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
prime any stats on when long signed last year wasnt it like a couple days before the
draft.
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by sexassassin on Apr 22, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was an entire week?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Apr 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was signed on the Tuesday before the draft
So, like yesterday this year. But I remember the League said the #2 team couldn’t negotiate with the next pick.
I have a question about this into the league office and I’m hoping to hear back soon.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 22, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool ya i know it was like wow the guy was walking around with a contract in place
was kinda cool but takes away from the guessing
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by sexassassin on Apr 22, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do we take smith or monroe hmmmmmmmmmmm
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by sexassassin on Apr 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i seen tyson play wasnt really impressed but if we trade down get him and get ricki jean f
daamn we would be looking sick ill give you that.
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by sexassassin on Apr 22, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just dont think Pioli could be comfortable
Knowing how terrible our defense was last season and take an Offensive Lineman. He upgraded the OL with Goff and got us our Franchise QB…now lets get some young Defensive impact player on our team. I would love Curry but would be even happy with Maulaluga or Laurinaitis
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you forget he added two pro bowl LBs?
by ChiefDJ on Apr 22, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But for how long? Those guys are just leak stoppers…..like Plumbers Putty. We need one of the top LB in the class to learn from these guys while we have them.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if we trade down
We could end up with one of them PLUS a good RT.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Pioli views vets as just mentors for younger guys
Piolis history says he’s perfectly happy getting these old vets on their way out every year if theres one out there.
Pioli isn’t Herm. He is about winning today more than building for the future.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 22, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we want to win today
We need more defense help. Vrabel and Thomas cant do it by themselves. Defense wins Championships is what I think. You actually think getting an OL will translate into wins? No way. Stopping the opposing team from scoring is what translates into wins…
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually yes, I do think getting an Offensive line will help create wins
I’m shocked you don’t.
You know what else helps you win games? Being able to actually run the football.
by ChiefDJ on Apr 22, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you watch the Cardinals last season....
Proves a running game is not necessary….yeah they had an amazing passing game…but running the ball isnt always a must. Their defense turned it on in the playoffs….our defense turned it off all year.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree OL is very important
But do you think ours is so bad off we need an OL with first round pick? We just drafted Albert last season and signed Goff….We cant stay focused on OL when our defense is in shambles. Everyone talks about our good up and coming secondary..well stats say our pass defense was horrible as well. It wouldnt bother me if we spend our entire draft on defense.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing is for certain....
with all this wheeling and dealing,…..atleast we dont have Carl and Germ calling the shots on this one….
by Sea of RED on Apr 22, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah for sure.
We would probably end up trading all our picks to the Lions so we can take John Parker Wilson at #1
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope
Curry goes #1 & Monroe goes #2 so just so all Chiefs mock drafts get turned on their head
Attn Todd Haley: "DO U WANNA FIGHT ME!?"
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 22, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy
do I love college recruiting but fuck me am I tired of mock drafts
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by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang
That is a very good reason for that outcome. Great valid points shuffle! Awesome stuff!
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says the guy...
who
A)not only has Grbac in his user name, but avatar too
B)thinks a running game isn’t important
C)is fine with his spending all of our draft picks on defense
You’re barking up the wrong tree here, buddy
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by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 22, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA!!
Dont get your panties in a wad Shuffle….I am just picking at you.
As for Grbac…its always been my name on the internet. Not a fan anymore just kept the name. Thought the pic would be funny. Running game is very important, BUT, you can win without one. and yes I would love if we spent our draft on defense….atleast 5 of them.
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You big, Crank Yanker, you....lol
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody
Mentioned taking Stafford at # 3
The way the draft has been scripted was Stafford was gone.
The Chiefs haven’t looked at him I think.
NOT to start a controversy, well maybe, what if Pioli likes Stafford
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by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Steve
Your giving me a big headache with all these scenerios….just stop it already!! lol jk
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by Matt_Grbac on Apr 22, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking
we could take Stafford at No. 3, then that gives us additional time to make a trade with someone, say the 49ers or the Jets. We have the guy they want, now all they have to do is get creative and make an offer. And if nothing comes of it, we have a QB we can groom for 2 or 3 years and allow us to trade Thiggy. Or we can groom him and trade him in two years if that QB crop is not good.
by Primmtime on Apr 22, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a thought but a high stakes gamble
nobody really knows how many times this might have happened and the picking team was stuck.
I can only think of Rivers and possibly Elway because he held out on team that drafted him.
Maybe others remember more.
BUT I wouldn’t chance it as this could be something that blows up in Pioli’s face, it would be similar to sitting on the pick and letting the time expire, the league and other GM’s would get their revenge.
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love D
Tyson Jackson and 2 LBs for Vrabel and Thomas to groom.
KC LOVES defense
I think you get more reaction out of the crowd with a 4th down D-Stuff or a critical down QB Sack than you might get with the 4 TD of a pending blowout. We were known for D in 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. The fans were brought up that way. SEE Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas. WE ARE Big-12 country. Offense is johnny come lately here. We know D wins Championships because we DID.
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 6:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting
If they take Curry and he has indeed signed for less that Long signed last year that has set the bar for contracts a lot lower than most GMs might have thought. Does this mean we won’t mind hanging on to the #3 pick or alternatively other GMs might htink it not so bad to trade up to a #3 contract.
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
by sir eccles on Apr 22, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a whole lot players agents are pissed off right now
and a whole lot of players will not be in training camp on time
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sports Center
really seems to think it is Stafford. Slam dunk.
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Take Curry!
Detroit should take Curry. It would at the very least be good for PR that he had no interest in trying to squeeze every penny out of the team.
by bonesjackson on Apr 22, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Still think all the Seattle talk about Sanchez is smokescreen
they don’t need him, and nobody has Sanchez significantly ranked above Stafford for real, I think it’s a bunch of talk. If they are both available at #3 its a bidding war to avoid getting stuck with the next Ryan Leaf, Chiefs get a money ass trade down.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Apr 22, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness
the photographer/captioner cleared up which one was Curry in the photo. If you didn’t catch it he’s the one on the right.
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by Chiefs_swagger on Apr 22, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's Trading Down
Curry in the first
Kruger in the third
it’s a lock
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by Philthy_1 on Apr 22, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nahhhhhhh
Nothing is a ‘lock’.
Plenty of trade downs will happen. Hopefully the chiefs will be one of them.
But that doesn’t matter. Ill come back on here to give you a hard time when we either dont draft curry, dont draft kruger, or trade down. Why?
Because I hate when people act like something is 100%
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Apr 22, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa there, Jux
‘Plenty of trade downs will happen?’ How can you be so sure? Don’t say it like its 100%!
Mostly messing with you, but if you’re saying there will be trade downs in the top 5, I’d be willing to wager against it.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no.
Plenty of trade downs in the draft will happen. I was joking because he said Noone will trade down.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Apr 22, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gr. no edit button.
I was teasing him because he said no one will trade down but didn’t specify that he meant the chiefs, or in the top 5, or in the draft.
Nice try though =]
Oh but I do think the chances are good enough to place a bet. What odds will you give me?
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Apr 22, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the top 5?
You like a trade down to happen in the top 5?
Yo! You live in KC? I’ll get action on that for sure. Why would we need odds, you think it’ll happen, I don’t, thats an even money proposition. Let’s make it happen.
by kcsno56 on Apr 22, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just don't see it happening
Don’t see us getting a good enough deal to pass on Curry. If i’m wrong which I am all the time……Rag on!!! But when you’re buyin’ a #59 Jersey and it ain’t Donnie Edwards…… I’ll smile.
I'll teach you how to get you ranch dressing in her hidden valley!!!
by Philthy_1 on Apr 23, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha Deal =]
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Apr 23, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
grrrr. Read my posts please.
I think a trade down could happen in the top 5. I think there is a good enough chance that it might be worth betting on if I could get respectable odds.
If i thought it was a for sure thing I would go heads up but I think its like 25%-40% chance. So I would want like 2:1.
But I’m not in KC anyway, I’m in wichita. I’ll go heads up for bragging rights though=]
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Apr 23, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please link me to the comment where you said there was a 25-40% chance
This is the first I’ve heard you say it. I apologize.
And I think you’d be one of the more rational guys on here with those %’s. Most seem to think its more likely than not. Chris, who I have tons of respect for, just put it up he thinks its happening on the main page.
I put the chances at like 10%, it could happen, but it seems highly unlikely.
by kcsno56 on Apr 23, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Kruger like 26 and apparently has lost one Kidney
We could get Peppers who’s 30 and proven if we wanted to pull the trigger
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
by Steve_Chiefs on Apr 22, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO...if Detroit takes Curry....
Seattle will take Stafford. Seattle might even consider moving into the 2nd pick to grab Stafford preventing any other team interested in Matt to move ahead of them.
Stafford is a better prospect of the two QB’s available. It doesn’t matter about what systemt the young QB’s ran in college, it always falls on the experience and talent of the QB prospect.
Seattle would have taken Sanchez at 5 only because Stafford should have been off the board when the Seahawks would make their choice. If Matt is still there after Detriot makes their pick, Seattle will be jockeying for position.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 23, 2009 5:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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