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3. Chiefs: Tyson Jackson, Defensive end, LSU

K.C. hopes it gets an offer to trade down with a team that wants QB Mark Sanchez. Failing that, the Chiefs will take Jackson, the best 3–4 DE in the draft but a reach this high.

From the upcoming issue of Sports Illustrated, Peter King selects Tyson Jackson for the Chiefs, after Matt Stafford and Jason Smith were off the board.

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Can't say I would be thrilled with this pick initially

But if Jackson is the “next Richard Seymour” then in hindsight it will look like a good move.

Just right now, it seems there are more pressing needs.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you have to take the best defensive player on the board..

Like PT said, there are more pressing needs. Curry seems like a no-brainer if we can’t trade down.

I hate waiting.

by WMR on Apr 21, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love this

it it were ten picks later

by Chief Seattle on Apr 21, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why does that matter?

why would we draft a player to keep him off someone else’s team if he isn’t the player we are looking for? we are trying to build our team, not destroy other teams plans for success. I can understand the argument against cleveland since they are in the AFC, but GB? I mean in order for it to hurt us that they get him, it means we have to make it to the superbowl to play them. That is still improvement from where we are that i would like to see.

by WarChief on Apr 21, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because if we don't take him at 3

and he could easily be taken at 5 or 9 by Cleveland or GB, meaning we wouldn’t get a chance at taking TJ if we were to move down to someplace like 10-12.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant

If we want him, then take him. He won’t get out of the top 10.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

for using fewer words.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If

Mr. Pioli thinks this is the best fit for the team, then I’m okay with it. We have so many holes, it isn’t funny. I think if we can grab a RT in round 3 or 4, then this is the pick we need to make. I feel it will be him or Brown from Florida State personally. Which will be better in our Hybrid 3-4??? I don’t know, but I’m sure plenty of us on here have our opinions!

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You look awfully familiar

Have I seen you around here before?

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

once or twice!

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

Nice user name.

As far as Jackson vs. Brown goes, Jackson is probably safer especially since Brown hasn’t played standing up like he would in the Chiefs defense.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I really have only read a handful of details from this site and not much time for me to do my own research around here. I just remember everyone on here being high on Brown the week there was an article posted about him. (I’m an accountant, so I will now have some free time to research, but not much before the draft)

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice April 15th is over with

Brown could be good but I’d be nervous about picking a guy and changing positions (like Curry).

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LT is such a safe bet

it makes all the other prospects except trade down sound risky.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tyson Jackson is a hyped up Igor Oshlansky

Nothing more Nothing less…..if we wanted a big overgrown 3/4 end we would have signed Igor instead of wasting a pick on TJ. Curry is the route to go!

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except Igor is old

and TJ isn’t.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Apr 21, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or he's the next Richard Seymour

5 Pro Bowls and 4 first team all pros.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably more Seymour than Igor

TJ looks like he’s going to be a very safe pick this year, the more film gets broken down and the more interviews/workouts he has with teams the higher his stock goes. So far there has been virtually nothing to detract from Jackson’s value as the unquestionable #1 3-4 DE in the draft by a long shot. He would lock down the entire right side of the DL and would allow Dorsey to be virtually guaranteed single-coverage on just about every down with Tyler soaking up double teams at NT and TJ manhandling LTs.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seymore

Played most of his college career as a DT. A very dominate DT, I might add….he was still a 6th overall pick. Why waste a 3rd overall on a guy with nothing special. He is big and strong but not dominate.

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt

Don’t sweat it, this is not happening. No chance.

PK must be really convinced Pioli’s going to make a move, drop back 5-10 spots and take Jackson there, and since in Mock’s you can’t project trade, he’s basically projecting the pick he thinks Pioli wants with a trade.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you say there is no chance of something happening

You really set yourself up to sound foolish when it does.

AT least say, its highly unlikely. Then you can just write it off as bad luck =]

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with him

I guess that will make two foolish guys.

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, I'll qualify it...

I have too much respect for Pioli to think there is any chance of it happening.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha I agree with you too.

I don’t think it will happen either.

It just irks me to see people say NO WAY WILL THIS HAPPEN! Hell will freeze over and the raiders will win the superbowl before Pioli picks someone high than they are projected.

Wait he did that once? Ohhhh nvm.

Seriously though. It could happen and we don’t have much Pioli as a chief organizer to say it wont. It happened when he was with the patriots with mayo, it could happen again.

Once again, I agree with you and I dont think it will. But I’m not so confident to say there is not chance.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

I’ve actually called people out on this before, I deserved to be called out there.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we our GM's initials were C.P.

I’d think it was possible, scary, but possible.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we our?

sorry just confusing as hell

by readANDgold58 on Apr 21, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cover up the 'we' with your thumb.

Makes more sense.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

My bust, I can’t see us reaching like this since Peterson is gone.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

26 is old?

Wow you must be like 14 or 15 then…

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be 27 in a couple weeks

And Jackson is 22.

5 years isn’t a HUGE gap but it’s 5 years of prime reps that we would never see with Igor.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Zach Thomas and Mike Vrabel are 44 and 52 but that didnt stop Pioli did it? lol

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Goodell walks to the podium....

And with the 3rd pick in the 2009 NFL draft the Kansas City Chiefs select………….Mark Sanchez, USC.

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And

they trade his rights to the 49ers for………you finish the story. I think if we can’t get a trade with anyone before our time is up, we pull the trigger and trade a few minutes later like in 2004!

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then

We can select Jackson at the right spot in the draft instead of reaching for him!

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't happening

I respect PK more than most seem to on this site, but Pioli’s not taking Tyson Jackson #3 overall, he has too good of an understanding of value than that.

Someone on another board talked about simply passing on a pick, letting the clock run out…if Pioli truely thinks Jackson is the best fit he could wait 4, 5, maybe 6 picks before snagging Jackson without any worry of someone jumping up and taking him.

I’m not as gung-ho BPA as some, but I can’t see Pioli thinking Jackson is BPA or very close. He’s also not at an ‘impact’ enough of a position to reach.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed 100%

I am glad some of these guys are not our GM…we would be worse off than the Lions.

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other PK (Pat Kirwan) picked TJ at #3 today on Sirius 124

If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home.

by craig in calgary on Apr 21, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Kirwan, King, Kiper, McShay, Mayock can kiss my ass! We need Curry end of story!

Go Chiefs!!

by Matt_Grbac on Apr 21, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because

You like Curry doesn’t mean he’s worth the #3 pick. He’s an ILB in a 3/4 or OLB in a 4/3 and we’re shifting to a 3-4 defense. 3-4 ILBs are a hell of a lot easier to find than DEs that can lock the entire right side of our line down for the foreseeable future.

TJ is worth more to a young 3-4 defense (re: ours) than an ILB or RT from day 1.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, the love affair with Curry needs to end.

He’s an inside backer that doesn’t rush the QB. If we’re taking an inside LB, take the best one. Take Rey.

I do not snort the coke I only smoke...sensimilla.

by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 21, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

thank you

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly,

picking this high you need to draft a “game changer” and curry does not fit that criteria eliminating him from players we should be looking at

by rich04 on Apr 21, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

yeah, that Ray Lewis isn’t a game changer at all.

He didn’t have much of an impact as a 3-4 ILB.

3-4 DE is NOT a ‘game changer position. If you want to make that arguement, you should be talking about an OLB like Orakpo. I wouldn’t agree with you there either, but at least it’d be an arguement.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

just b/c he isnt a sack machine people dont lable him a “game changer” 6 pic 6’s that prob. change a game or two

by DT58forever on Apr 21, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you are going to take a 3-4 ILB

Take the best. Rey. No question.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who is he going

to split reps with then? He’s got no place at OLB in a 3-4 and we’ve already got more than enough ILBs on the roster (DJ, Thomas, Williams, and Beisel are all the right size/speed for ILB in a 3-4).

Why don’t we draft another CB too while we’re in the business of adding depth. Curry is a depth-pick, aka he’s a luxury. We have bigger needs on this team, specifically on our defense, than ILB.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we dont

have any luxury picks at 2-14…….we need an impact player whoever that may be

by DT58forever on Apr 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excuse me, but what are you talking about?

Curry? Curry wouldn’t split reps with anyone. He’s a 3 down LB, its one of the reasons scouts are ‘in love’ with him as some of you have said.

You’d build around him. Sorry, but I’m not making plans for my long-term defense building around Zack Thomas and Vrabel. Those are guys with one and two years left, respectively. They both can be part time players at this point as far as I’m concerned. Ideally DJ would be able to play OLB, but I don’t see that happening.

If not, then you put DJ and Curry inside (with Thomas backing up) have Vrabel, and according to last week’s camp, you’ve got McBride and Hali on the other side. I agree that OLB would still be a big whole.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If OLB is still a big hole

Why not worry about replacing our ILBS next year. I agree that vrabel and Thomas are old, but you don’t draft a guy to play ILB who has never SHOWN that he can pass rush!

It’s that simple. If you want an ILB, get an ILB. Curry is an amazing player for a 4-3 team. Not for the chiefs.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the goal was

Just to win a SB this year, I’d agree with you.

But we’re not winning a SB this year, and Pioli has to look at the long-term.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But also...

You aren’t advacting we go OLB, you were pushing for 3-4 DE.

Which was one of my original points.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really advocating anything.

I’m just disagreeing with you about Curry.

I honestly want to trade down, and if that isn’t possible I want to pick LT

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

I was probably confusing your posts with another, I think from JHWK

I think we all want to trade down, I do, too, I just don’t think its very likely.

I totally understand the argument of taking LT at #3. If the Chiefs don’t go Curry, I think thats where they’ll go, and I have no problem with it at all.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate it but I don't at the same time.

I hate it for the same reason I love it.

Its safe.

The last thing I want is for our entire first day of the draft to be a pick at LT. I will be so bored the rest of the day. But it would really set Cassel up for success.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas has already stated

he didn’t come to KC to rebuild. It’s also hard for a player brought in to lead (Vrabel and Thomas were signed because of their leadership abilities, not because they’re still freak athletes) to do so when he’s splitting reps with a rookie.

I’m not planning on a long-term system built around Vrabel or Thomas either but the signing of Thomas is obvious foreshadowing. By signing Thomas we lock our ILB spots down with DJ beside him. Curry is an ILB in the 3-4. You can say that Thomas and Vrabel are “part time players at this point” but if that were the case they would never have been signed. They were brought in for a reason, and that reason is to be field commanders for our legion of talented youth, something that is literally impossible if they’re not even on the field in the first place.

RDE in a 4-3 Under or 3-4 is a crucial position if you hope to have any chance at stopping the run (something we were pretty horrible at accomplishing last year). Considering the talent-level and upside of our secondary, I’ll take stopping the run (and coincidentally improving Dorsey’s pass-rush ability by forcing one-on-one blocks) over an ILB any day of the week.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Pioli has shown, he could care less what players feel that are under contract

Thomas/Vrabel are insurance policies that can also provide leadership in part time rolls and play special teams. I’m not of the opinion that the only way they can be leaders are playing every snap.

You can say that Thomas and Vrabel are "part time players at this point" but if that were the case they would never have been signed.

Says who? Its nothing to spend 2 million dollars on Thomas and use him as a part time player, and help teach the 3-4. Vrabel was part of a trade, and he actually fits in as an OLB.

The more those two play, the worse we are, short term and long term. In the short term, it means we don’t have anyone better to get them off the field, and in the long term, we’re not playing our youth and developing our future.

I guess we can agree to disagree, but 3-4 DE is not a more important position than 3-4 ILB. They are fairly similar in importance, and with that, the premier talent wins out, and Curry is, almost without question the the bigger talent.

I’m not saying we have to take Curry and no one else, I understand the argument of position importance, its why if we go LT, I’ll understand.

There are several game-changing, and HOF level ILB that weren’t pass-rushers, and I think saying that for a defensive player to be worthy of a top pick they have to be a pass-rusher ignores the great ILB we’ve seen over the years.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at KC in context

is what elucidates all of this. 3-4 DE and 3-4 ILB are of equal value when looked at in no light other than that of a 3-4 defensive scheme. When you look at it from the perspective that we’ve already got ILB’s on the roster than can start (as well as guys like Danell Ellerbe on day 2 that can fill the roll just as well at a fraction the cost/risk) and we’ve got virtually no one that can start at RDE in a 3-4 the values change, or at least should.

Having guys like Vrabel and Thomas on the team to teach our young players how to win is utterly pointless if they’re not even on the field enough to lead guys like DJ and Tamba. We didn’t sign them for depth, we signed them as stop-gaps to buy time for us to find a more permanent replacement in the future and drafting a $75mil rookie this year to play in place of Thomas just doesn’t make sense considering the effort Pioli expended on attracting Thomas to KC over the Jets.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

comparing

ray lewis to aaron curry is retarded, they are 2 completely different players

by rich04 on Apr 21, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How, sir?

I see him as a Ray Lewis-Derrick Brooks mix.

Please explain to me the retard how I’m wrong.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to add

That they are also 2 completely different people.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

A 3-4 DE (Igor Olshansky) that would have been a great fit here just signed this offseason for 4 years/ $18 million. ‘Harder to find, I’d disagree.

Curry is widely considered the #1 talent in the draft, regardless of position.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

IMO, Jackson is the perfect fit for our team. He can play DE regardless of whether we do the 3-4, 4-3, or a hybrid. He could even fill in at DT in the 4-3 if necessary. Definitely what our team needs. Plus the chemistry between he and Dorsey would probably be a plus.

by Vince D on Apr 21, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, Gents

But its a fallacy to say Curry doesn’t play an important enough position to take him #3, but then argue for Jackson.

3-4 DE isn’t the impact type position that 4-3 DE is. If we were sticking with a 4-3, and we planned on putting him outside, and felt he would be an impact pass-rusher…than yeah, you could make the arguement.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is

That we’ve got a bigger hole at RDE than ILB and that means that if both players are comparable to one another (and they are, even if you like Curry more, they’re both equally safe picks even if Curry is the more sexy pick) the one filling a position of greater need (Jackson) has to be assigned a higher overall value.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a big fan of Kirwan

My guess is they are both hearing KC likes Jackson. They may or may not, but Pioli’s not taking him #3.

Could we draft him on Saturday, sure, I’ll concede that, but it doesn’t happen #3.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got an issue with all of this "passing on the pick" talk.

1st of all, it’s never been done intentionally.

2nd of all, every agent out there will be negotiating at the teams ORIGINAL draft position. It’s a guaranteed holdout situation.

All these “experts” who trot out that idea in their various articles are completely out of touch.

Sorry to be off topic, but this pass on the pick bullshit that’s floated around in the media the past few years really pisses me off.

by RedNose on Apr 21, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

None taken

I don’t think its likely at all.

Do I think its impossible? No. Simply because rookie contracts have hijacked the NFL. They are absurd, and even the NFLPA knows it. I would love to see the Lions not make a selection until #5 and take Eugene Monroe or Raji or someone.

Without it happening, it will still be the first issue negotiated on in the new CBA. The fact that there have been zero trades in the top 5 in the last 5 years is directly related to the ludicicrous contracts given out. What do you think about the 100’s of posts that have the Chiefs trading out of the 3rd spot? I bet if you put up a poll, of what people suspect will happen Sat, most would vote that they think we’ll trade down. This is almost as unlikely, simply b/c no one wants to pay for that pick.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's there to negotiate?

The owners sign the checks, not the players or the NFLPA.

Not to get this thread off topic.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slotting of draft picks

Like the NBA.

Jake Long’s contract had several leaders in the NFLPA upset as it essentially made him the highest paid OL in the league, and he’d never played a snap.

Owners want slotting, and they’ll certainly get it, since less money in rookies pockets means more in veterans pockets. And its always easier to sell out future members of your union to help current members.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am just playing devil's advocate in the comment above

I actually agree with you.

A rookie cap would restrict the amount of money paid rookies, which would mean there would be more money going to the veterans. And the veterans are the ones the NFLPA represents so they should be on this.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's pretty much impossible, because it doesn't make sense

If the Lions just keep passing and drop to #5 and take Monroe or anyone else, Monroe’s agent is going to be looking for the same contract that they would’ve gotten had they taken Monroe with #1. the Ram’s pick will still be negotiating as though they were #2, but they might have something to say about being #1 overall as well. In that scenario, both the Rams and Lions will be paying out #1 money. It doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint.

by RedNose on Apr 21, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

If the Lions took Monroe at #5, his agent would ask for #1 money, and the Lions would want to pay him #5 money, and he’d probably get #3 money.

That’d be my guess.

Again, I doubt it ever happens, but I also doubt we’re able to trade out of #3.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And then

everyone else would be paying the pick before money. So the Chiefs would be paying No. 2 money to the No. 3 pick. That is quite a bit of a difference in guaranteed money I believe.

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

The Chiefs would be negotiating as if he’s the #3 pick, while the agent would want #2 money. They’d find a middle, there’s too much money not too.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but it would create big time problems with the negotiating process

Because, while I agree that eventually they would get something done, the agent would be demanding that the Lions pay for their original #1 draft slot. If they didn’t they would be doing a disservice to their client and would be a joke in sport agent circles.

by RedNose on Apr 21, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that picks need to be slotted like in the NBA though

We’re just not quite their yet, and until we are, teams have to accept the spot they’re in.

by RedNose on Apr 21, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love it

If it created big problems in the negotiating process. I want the whole thing to be a mess.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1000

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good timing with this post

Read my fanpost I just wrote on why I think we’ll draft Jackson or Raji regardless of our first round draft position.

by Vince D on Apr 21, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm officially clueless

I was for Munroe from day one. Got talked into Curry this week. Now T Jax??? I have no idea what in the world they are going to do.

by FrankPitts on Apr 21, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way

and I’m thinking that the Chiefs have tons of options, but until Saturday around 3:20 Central time comes around, we will have no clue!

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perception

I think we all read into what other mock drafts say and want the Chiefs to draft the best player available. But if we are set at that position (which there aren’t very many that are set in our lineup) why should we draft that person still? I think we need to draft the best player available for our biggest need, even if it is a small reach (draft at no. 3 instead of a guy that should be drafted at no. 7).

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He comes with added bonus

Denver is hot for Jackson and that would mean we robbed the Donkeys of Cutler, Cassel and Jackson.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Apr 21, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What

a beautiful feeling that would be!

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can't really rob Denver with our pick.

If we pick up Jackson they will just get Rey who is going to terrorize cassel for years.

"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"

by Jux on Apr 21, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are the odds

of the Chiefs actually signing their first round pick and get him into camp before it starts this year with the new staff in place? Has New England ever had problems with holdouts with Pioli and Company?

by Primmtime on Apr 21, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jux

You wrote

but you don’t draft a guy to play ILB who has never SHOWN that he can pass rush!

Why not? How many ILB’s in the NFL right now can pass rush? The only time an ILB is going to rush the QB is on an occasional blitz, and Curry is athletic enough to blitz past a guard.

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Apr 21, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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