Chiefs Release Three, Sign a Tight End

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 1:29 PM CDT in 2009 Draft Comment 29 comments

The Kansas City Chiefs have waived offensive tackle Andrew Carnahan, linebacker Curtis Gatewood and wide receiver/kick returner Kevin Robinson. Because all three players have less than four years of NFL service, they will have to pass through waivers before they become unrestricted free agents.

The Chiefs also signed tight end Sean Ryan.

Ryan was in for a workout last weekend. He's a 6'5" tight end originally drafted in the 5th round by the Dallas Cowboys (Haley Connection) in 2004. He played two years with the Cowboys, then two more with the Jets.

Last season, Ryan appeared in games for San Francisco, New Orleans and Miami (Parcells Connection).

Releasing Carnahan, a tackle, and Gatewood, a linebacker, isn't all that surprising. Carnahan was brought on back on October 29th of last year and Gatewood added just a couple weeks later on November 19th.

The Chiefs continue to take swipes at Herm Edwards' last draft class with the Chiefs as Kevin Robinson is a former 6th round selection in 2008. He was inactive for half the season but came back to dress for eight games. He returned punts 11 times for a total of 94 yards and caught no passes.

UPDATE: Chiefs confirm the roster moves

H/T 810 Sports radio and RedNose in the comments.

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Kicks or Punts?

He returned kicks 11 times for a total of 94 yards and caught no passes.

kicks should average about 18 yards shouldn’t they? I mean you get about that much of a head start before anyone gets to you, on most teams. Hell, I think I could wheelchair up an average of 9 yards a kick return.

"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"

by Lanier63 on Apr 21, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Punts

Nice catch.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pick up a tight end?

How many on the roster now? Is this the end of Tony G?

by bakerlee on Apr 21, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No way

A guy who has been on 5 teams in 4 years isn’t going to be the one to replace Tony Gonzalez.

Most of these guys being signed now, Sean Ryan included, may not even make it through training camp.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't Ryan

a blocking guy? Didn’t Herm Draft Cottam to be Tony’s eventual replacement? If I remember his highlight videos on Youtube, Cottam was a pretty damn good recieving tight end.

Paddy

by Patrick Allen on Apr 21, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's because the highlight video shows every catch he made in college =)

Seriously though, the dude caught 21 total passes as a Volunteer…Tony catches that in three games

Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.

by PVChiefsfan on Apr 21, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bye tony gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Apr 21, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I always like Charles as a kick returner

Him and Savage did a better job than anyone else

by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 21, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

building the bottom of the roster

The new TE is a special teams/back up kind of player.
No threat to TG or anyone else.

But, it is consistant with what the Chiefs have been doing all offseason…
build the roster up from the bottom, as well as the top.

Again, special teams was a nightmare last year, and getting blockers and tacklers will be just as important as getting a great return man.

I don’t think it’s “taking swipes” at the Herm Edwards draft picks… it’s not that uncommon for a team to cut former 7th round prospects that don’t pan out (Merritt and Robinson).

Robinson didn’t show much, and was hurt a lot, same with Merritt.

A new coach/GM SHOULD upgrade the roster, at the top middle and bottom, especially after a few bad years.

Some might say cutting Franklin was because he’s a “herm guy” but I’m convinced he was just out of shape, and had a bad attitude… if he asked to be cut, and wasn’t in shape anyway… they SHOULD have cut him, and did. Even though I had high hopes for my fellow Tiger… I think building a team with the right attitude is important, and Franklin was made example of.

by stagdsp on Apr 21, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Chiefs confirm the move...

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They're Not "Targeting" Herm's Players

They’re cutting guys who didn’t produce anything.

Franklin might have had some athletic ability, but he did dick last year…either as a receiver or on special teams. Same with Robinson (who was also injured for much of the year).

Based on Peterson’s history with the draft, the more likely reason for their release is that a lot of these guys just weren’t very good.

Predictions for 2009

1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.

by UCrawford on Apr 21, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah but

I have been using Kevin Robinson as my kick returner on Madden 09. What am I going to do now? Guess I’ll put Charles in there. He’ll probably do better anyway.

Paddy

by Patrick Allen on Apr 21, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Charles is my kick returner on Madden

He’s pretty damn good.

If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home.

by craig in calgary on Apr 21, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Traded For Justin King

Then later traded for DeSean Jackson…he’s much better than Robinson. Frankly, Robinson kind of sucked…his speed was terrible for a returner.

Predictions for 2009

by UCrawford on Apr 21, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I didn’t mean for it to sound like they’re singling out Herm’s players but more that another one of Herm’s most recent draftees isn’t making it (notice that these guys barely played last year. Robinson was injured and didn’t bring anything to the receiving game).

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they were swiping at Herm players

Jeff Webb would’ve been the first to go.

home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!

by Holmeslice on Apr 21, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jeff Webb is one lucky SOB

To be earning a million dollars this year while Franklin got cut.

I’d have to look at when the deadline was to offer tenders, my only thought is they had to make tender offers before getting a good look at these guys. I get the Niswanger tender, b/c even if he doesn’t start, he’s a backup at multiple positions, but come kickoff against the Ravens, I’ll be surprised if Webb is on the field.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Was Webb good/usefull in punt/kick coverage?

by RedNose on Apr 21, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So far

Webb has been useful for dropping passes, not getting open and keeping the bench warm for Dbowe and Tony.

Paddy

by Patrick Allen on Apr 21, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I remember correctly

He only was active for like 5 games.

He’s been on kick return teams in the past…I think thats it.

by kcsno56 on Apr 21, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was active for 10 games and recorded 6 special teams tackles in '08

by RedNose on Apr 21, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It just seems

like they are looking for guys, especially receivers who can do more than just their one job. Robinson was never going to be more than a returner. You can easily stick Charles, Webb, even Engram back there and get the same amount of yards he was getting.

Plus, looking at the roster, we are pretty full at the Wide Out position. Bowe, Engram, Bradley, Darling, and Webb. Doesn’t look like any of them are going anywhere … maybe Darling if the last two years he is owed too much.

by Chief Seattle on Apr 21, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

85% will be the number that will be referenced for many years

“We’re about 85% there” -Classic Herm. Well to all the Herm-aphrodites that supported his “going young” (to an extreme btw), where are you to support the mans 85%

This team will be lucky to keep 50% of last years squad.

You wanted rebuilding KC?….this is how you do it. Mix of young and veteran talent. I’m just hopeful the right veteran leadership is there and the right rook’s are acquired/retained.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Apr 21, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Herm meant 85% at every position

Just missing that one key starter…

"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi

by Shawn on Apr 21, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Riiiight...85% at every position. Yeah, a lot of those guys got released

…and we’re not even close to the first cut day in the NFL.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Apr 21, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remind us

Or I’ll make a reminder now…to look at the roster on Herm’s last day (1/23/09) and the start of the Chiefs season (9/09) and see how close he was.

by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I'm setting an alarm on my calendar for this.

I think this would be a really neat stat.
Do we have a 23 Jan 09 roster handy?

You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?

by Mully on Apr 21, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No worries guys

…I decided to make sure there was a side by side stat of this when Herm said it and was subsequently removed of his duties.

I’m curious to see it myself and to be honest I figure it’ll be around 45-50% turnover.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Apr 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean like, one key starter at every position.

"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi

by Shawn on Apr 21, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs