Chiefs Release Three, Sign a Tight End
by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 1:29 PM CDT
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The Kansas City Chiefs have waived offensive tackle Andrew Carnahan, linebacker Curtis Gatewood and wide receiver/kick returner Kevin Robinson. Because all three players have less than four years of NFL service, they will have to pass through waivers before they become unrestricted free agents.
The Chiefs also signed tight end Sean Ryan.
Ryan was in for a workout last weekend. He's a 6'5" tight end originally drafted in the 5th round by the Dallas Cowboys (Haley Connection) in 2004. He played two years with the Cowboys, then two more with the Jets.
Last season, Ryan appeared in games for San Francisco, New Orleans and Miami (Parcells Connection).
Releasing Carnahan, a tackle, and Gatewood, a linebacker, isn't all that surprising. Carnahan was brought on back on October 29th of last year and Gatewood added just a couple weeks later on November 19th.
The Chiefs continue to take swipes at Herm Edwards' last draft class with the Chiefs as Kevin Robinson is a former 6th round selection in 2008. He was inactive for half the season but came back to dress for eight games. He returned punts 11 times for a total of 94 yards and caught no passes.
UPDATE: Chiefs confirm the roster moves
H/T 810 Sports radio and RedNose in the comments.
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Kicks or Punts?
He returned kicks 11 times for a total of 94 yards and caught no passes.
kicks should average about 18 yards shouldn’t they? I mean you get about that much of a head start before anyone gets to you, on most teams. Hell, I think I could wheelchair up an average of 9 yards a kick return.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
No way
A guy who has been on 5 teams in 4 years isn’t going to be the one to replace Tony Gonzalez.
Most of these guys being signed now, Sean Ryan included, may not even make it through training camp.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't Ryan
a blocking guy? Didn’t Herm Draft Cottam to be Tony’s eventual replacement? If I remember his highlight videos on Youtube, Cottam was a pretty damn good recieving tight end.
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Apr 21, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That's because the highlight video shows every catch he made in college =)
Seriously though, the dude caught 21 total passes as a Volunteer…Tony catches that in three games
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
I always like Charles as a kick returner
Him and Savage did a better job than anyone else
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 21, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
building the bottom of the roster
The new TE is a special teams/back up kind of player.
No threat to TG or anyone else.
But, it is consistant with what the Chiefs have been doing all offseason…
build the roster up from the bottom, as well as the top.
Again, special teams was a nightmare last year, and getting blockers and tacklers will be just as important as getting a great return man.
I don’t think it’s “taking swipes” at the Herm Edwards draft picks… it’s not that uncommon for a team to cut former 7th round prospects that don’t pan out (Merritt and Robinson).
Robinson didn’t show much, and was hurt a lot, same with Merritt.
A new coach/GM SHOULD upgrade the roster, at the top middle and bottom, especially after a few bad years.
Some might say cutting Franklin was because he’s a “herm guy” but I’m convinced he was just out of shape, and had a bad attitude… if he asked to be cut, and wasn’t in shape anyway… they SHOULD have cut him, and did. Even though I had high hopes for my fellow Tiger… I think building a team with the right attitude is important, and Franklin was made example of.
They're Not "Targeting" Herm's Players
They’re cutting guys who didn’t produce anything.
Franklin might have had some athletic ability, but he did dick last year…either as a receiver or on special teams. Same with Robinson (who was also injured for much of the year).
Based on Peterson’s history with the draft, the more likely reason for their release is that a lot of these guys just weren’t very good.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Yeah but
I have been using Kevin Robinson as my kick returner on Madden 09. What am I going to do now? Guess I’ll put Charles in there. He’ll probably do better anyway.
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Apr 21, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Charles is my kick returner on Madden
He’s pretty damn good.
If you go out and you’re looking for the girl to wink at you and she hasn’t winked at you before 12 she isn’t going to. You might as well go home.
by craig in calgary on Apr 21, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I Traded For Justin King
Then later traded for DeSean Jackson…he’s much better than Robinson. Frankly, Robinson kind of sucked…his speed was terrible for a returner.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Yeah
I didn’t mean for it to sound like they’re singling out Herm’s players but more that another one of Herm’s most recent draftees isn’t making it (notice that these guys barely played last year. Robinson was injured and didn’t bring anything to the receiving game).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
If they were swiping at Herm players
Jeff Webb would’ve been the first to go.
home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!
Jeff Webb is one lucky SOB
To be earning a million dollars this year while Franklin got cut.
I’d have to look at when the deadline was to offer tenders, my only thought is they had to make tender offers before getting a good look at these guys. I get the Niswanger tender, b/c even if he doesn’t start, he’s a backup at multiple positions, but come kickoff against the Ravens, I’ll be surprised if Webb is on the field.
It just seems
like they are looking for guys, especially receivers who can do more than just their one job. Robinson was never going to be more than a returner. You can easily stick Charles, Webb, even Engram back there and get the same amount of yards he was getting.
Plus, looking at the roster, we are pretty full at the Wide Out position. Bowe, Engram, Bradley, Darling, and Webb. Doesn’t look like any of them are going anywhere … maybe Darling if the last two years he is owed too much.
by Chief Seattle on Apr 21, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
85% will be the number that will be referenced for many years
“We’re about 85% there” -Classic Herm. Well to all the Herm-aphrodites that supported his “going young” (to an extreme btw), where are you to support the mans 85%
This team will be lucky to keep 50% of last years squad.
You wanted rebuilding KC?….this is how you do it. Mix of young and veteran talent. I’m just hopeful the right veteran leadership is there and the right rook’s are acquired/retained.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Herm meant 85% at every position
Just missing that one key starter…
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Riiiight...85% at every position. Yeah, a lot of those guys got released
…and we’re not even close to the first cut day in the NFL.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Remind us
Or I’ll make a reminder now…to look at the roster on Herm’s last day (1/23/09) and the start of the Chiefs season (9/09) and see how close he was.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 21, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm setting an alarm on my calendar for this.
I think this would be a really neat stat.
Do we have a 23 Jan 09 roster handy?
You think it's coincidence that I bleed red?
No worries guys
…I decided to make sure there was a side by side stat of this when Herm said it and was subsequently removed of his duties.
I’m curious to see it myself and to be honest I figure it’ll be around 45-50% turnover.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
I mean like, one key starter at every position.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
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