Don't Expect Chiefs, Broncos to be Trading Partners
via www.kcchiefs.com
After debating for months between Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe, Aaron Curry and Brian Orakpo, Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez, most of us have to the conclusion that trading down from the third pick in the 2009 NFL Draft would be a positive scenario.
The truth is, however, it ain't gonna happen. At least not with the Denver Broncos.
Just like the Packers wouldn't send Brett Favre to the Vikings and the Cardinals won't send Anquan Boldin to the 49ers, the Kansas City Chiefs won't conduct a blockbuster deal with a division rival.
As of now, GM Scott Pioli has gotta be pretty happy about the Denver Broncos quarterback situation. Kyle Orton is a major downgrade from the Broncos incumbent, and Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez represent a major risk in attempting to acquire another young Pro Bowl quarterback.
If the Chiefs swapped first rounders with the Broncos, it would give Denver an opportunity to draft one of the top two quarterbacks in the draft. It's still a risk...but not as gloom as the prospects of Denver finding a quarterback of Cutler's caliber on the free agent market (Jeff Garcia is the best name out there).
The point is, don't even give the Broncos the opportunity to upgrade at quarterback.
Let them be. They got themselves into this, let them get themselves out of it.
The antiquated trade value chart says a swap of the #3 pick for the #12 and #18 picks is about even.
But this is the AFC West we're talking about. Not the AFC North or South or other divisions that sprouted in the last 15 years. The Chiefs and Broncos have been playing each other for nearly 50 years. The hatred goes deep and there is no virtually no scenario where Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli would conduct business with the Broncos on such a major scale unless the deal was overtly lopsided in favor of Kansas City.
External factors, such as the fact that we're talking a division rival, makes a Chiefs and Broncos draft day trade nearly non-existent.
Is it just me or does this talk of a Chiefs and Broncos trade seem completely implausible?
Check out this FanPost by onthereg for another view of this topic.
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Herm for a 4th rounder?
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
yea what the hell?
This was a retart trade on the chiefs part I would have gave a 4th round pick for him NOT to come here.
by afc west champs 2009 on Apr 2, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HIV, I rec'd that
just because not many people can get a touche out of PT. That was a waste of a fourth round pick, to think of the player that was there at that spot, and how he could help this team.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leon Washington...He could have saved us from Herm and Drummond. :(
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactumundo!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't look at it as helping Denver
Look at it as helping ourself. If we could turn a prospect like Curry into prospects like Rey Rey and Andre Smith (or insert any other top 20 stud) you do it in a heartbeat. Stafford is an unknown. I’m high on Sanchez but he’s an even bigger unknown. It could be a high priced downgrade from Orton.
If I’m Pioli I’m pitching this to Denver.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Orton
Or Stafford or Sanchez? I’ll take Orton’s sub 60% comp.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think you write a less coherent comment, jackass?
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You replied to yourself
and called yourself a jackass?
Odd, but not unheard of.
Anyway, this won’t happen. As PT7 said, you don’t do business when it’s helps the competition. Denver won’t be calling us asking about it, and if they do, they better be prepared to pony up 3 1st round picks (this years two plus at least 1 if not both next year) if they don’t intend on being laughed at.
You don’t make deals with the devil, and that’s what Denver is. Pioli knows that. Everyone in football knows who Elway is, and if Pioli helped Denver get the next Elway in either Sanchez or Stafford, it ruins his legacy. As a man, he won’t risk that, and as a business man in the AFC West, he won’t risk that with DIRECT competition.
As my accounting teach always said, “No muss, no fuss.”
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
by IISaiNtII on Apr 2, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does talking shit on yourself violate AP's "be polite to fellow commetors" code?
We don’t have an edit button so I’ll just trash myself when I make shitty comments
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Seriously, that shit is hilarious. I said it was odd… Just pointing out the obvious budday!
“I’m not your buddy pal!”
“I’m not your pal friend!”
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
by IISaiNtII on Apr 2, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugly Bob, you said your name was handsome Bob.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't make me break it out again (link fixed).
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, we encourage dissociative trash talking
PROBLEM SOLVED!
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Apr 2, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to move down to 12.
If Denver is willing to give up what it takes, I hope Pioli jumps all over it.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Please, we had enough of the "trade for Cutler" speculation the last week, no more lunacy.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hold up...
lets not confuse trade for Cutler banter with trade for the picks that were obtained from Cutler banter.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My comment was in general, not directed at your scenarios listed above.
I don’t want to start seeing FanPosts from now until the draft with titles along the lines of, “TRADE FOR DENVERZ 2 FIRSTS CHECK IT.”
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LETZ TRADE CASSEL TO CHICAGO FOR CUTLER!!!
I can see them coming.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao. That is exactly the shit I am dreading.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate cutler DO NOT
I do not want that reject on the team I love, so please chicago take cutler and keep his ass. Plus they just way overpaid for him IMO.As for more picks I would like that scenario, but don’t want to give denver the no.3 so figure out something else and take an OT or Curry.
by afc west champs 2009 on Apr 2, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only help denver needs at this point
is locating a qualified neckbeard stylist in the metro area.
by Grand Master A on Apr 2, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree with HIV on this.
I don’t believe Pioli would be to entrenched with the “Denver our Rival” mindset as he would be “Put MY team in better position” train of thought. As has been said on many occasions here. This is a business and shouldn’t be based on emotion.
Pioli is a master at wheeling and dealing for the betterment of his team. If this even smells of making the Chiefs better he’ll do it.
by oldchiefsfan on Apr 2, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with Prime
you can’t help a division rival. Orton sucks, why help them to draft a potential superstar QB??? Trading down would be great, but not as great as giving the high hard one to Denver.
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 2, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If either is a bust...
which many think both will be. Then this is sticking it to Denver.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Points
If Pioli scouts Stafford/Sanchez and thinks they’ll be big busts, and he trusts his own projection, then I guess I could see something happening.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of folks on here...
have been dogging Sanchez all offseason. But now that we have a chance to capitalize on him people are hesitant?
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still, like all NFL trades, its a long shot
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Pioli
scouts them and decides the juice is worth the squeeze (I commented before going further above)…
Then I for one won’t hold him liable if either QB turns out to a be pro-bowler in 2-3 seasons.
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
by IISaiNtII on Apr 2, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a really big "if"
problem is there is no way to know until we know and by then it might be too late. We can’t lose if we don’t play.
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 2, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Stafford is off the board...
would you have a problem if Sanchez ended up in Denver?
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have less of a problem
but if you let Sanchez sit in year one while being groomed by Mcdaniels then he could turn into a star. I get your point that he also “Could” be a bust. I just think we are playing with fire in helping a division rival draft one of the two highest rated QB’s. Make them win with Orton.
by BeijingKCfan on Apr 2, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm worried about who they can get with #12 and #18.
Regardless of what happens, the speculation is fucking sweet
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rather have them get this year top 2 Qb than next years
by cassel4prez on Apr 2, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT wouldnt be helping them, what would really be helping them is if we dont entice them into taking stafford or sachez and next year with two first rounders they take bradford or mccoy
by cassel4prez on Apr 2, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Mile High
…I put out there that anyone who wanted Sanchez would have to kiss Pioli’s ring. I subtly taunt just ebough to not get cussed out.
by FrankPitts on Apr 2, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, first and last I'll say about it.
Don’t wanna help Denver, and I’d love to see neckbeard taking the snaps.
However, this QB class is classified as “weak”, and Sanchez in Denver, while not as crappy as Orton, doesn’t scare me.
Now look at the flipside: We could end up with Everette Brown and Rey Maualuga with those two picks. HUGE defensive upgrade to nullify Sanchez for years to come.
That said, give me Curry and screw the Donkeys. Have fun with Orton. Our DB’s are gonna have a field day with all those INTs.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
by KaloPhoenix on Apr 2, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I will love to play Orton twice a year it’s like christmas in april!
by afc west champs 2009 on Apr 2, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great point
Flowers & Carr will have a fieldday with Orton.
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 2, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it could happen
I think pioli is gonna do what best for the team i m pretty sure he also believe in how weak this year QB class is i would rather have them pay stafford/sanchez then be in this situation next year with two first rounders and get a real gun slinger like mccoy or bradford. IF they commit the money this year they wont next year. it makes perfect sense to trade down to them. The consesus is take curry or trade down, with trading down we get two middle picks and can take a LB and LT. Like everyone has pointed out its unheard of for LB to get drafted in top 5 and be succesful.
Lets do it and take
Rey and Andre smith
by cassel4prez on Apr 2, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it..
but who would take Sanchez ahead of SF? Seaturds?
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jax
Though it could be a smoke screen that they’re working him out.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I also like it
10-15 is where I wanna be.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets are crazy QB desperate now. I think they will jump into the top 10 to grab Sanchez or Stafford depending on how they fall.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeh rumor is they really like dirty and they could pick him up with the 4th but that only rumor
by cassel4prez on Apr 2, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing for sure
I don’t see any trades happening between now and April 25.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
I think there are a few teams playing a wait and see approach depending on if their guy falls to them or not.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot depends on Detroit.
If they lock up Stafford before the draft we may see a little more action.
by JComp11 on Apr 2, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might be in our best interest
if Detroit takes Stafford. These QB hungry teams my get nervous and do something ridiculous. Like trade away the farm to us so they can pick Sanchez.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Apr 2, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or half?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can relate to
any moving related issues, anxieties that Cutler, and neckbeard may have!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah good luck moving into the house
Moving has gotta be one of the worst things in the world.
Seinfeld made the joke that asking someone to help you move is like going all the way in a male relationship. I’ve had a few fringe friends ask me to help them move. Ugh.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The moving part does not bother me,
it is all the waiting on the paperwork, inspections, and all that. We gotta close on this by the 27th of April. The world is spinning very fast for me at this point!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I moved into my BKS house
I moved shit from Olathe from 6am to 2am. No fun.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO Pioli will do what is best for Chiefs
His forte is to trade down for value and accumulate more good players b/c he IS building a TEAM. I think he would be willing to trade with anyone as long as the Chiefs end up ahead in the deal.
I guess you can look at it this way….If we trade with Denver, they get Sanchez or Stafford and we get a couple more quality players this year like Rey Maualuga at #12 and Michael Oher/Eben Britton or Tyson Jackson/Robert Ayers/Michael Johnson at #18. But if we stay and take Curry/Monroe at #3….then Denver most likely will still get their guy by trading with Seattle, Cleveland, or Cincinnati at #4, 5, and 6. As all of those teams have QB’s that can play and are trying to fill many needs. So a trade down for these teams could seem likely.
So…I guess what I’m saying is, if Denver is gonna (most likely) get their guy (Sanchez) right behind us in the # 4-6 range and we just get one player (Curry/Monroe, even though I love them both and would be thrilled to have either), wouldn’t it make sense to trade down and accumulate more good players rather than let Denver get their guy and give their picks to Seattle, Cleveland, or Cincinnati. Shouldn’t the Chiefs be taking that deal before those teams since we are in a position for those teams in need of a QB (Denver, Jets, 49ers, Bucs) to move ahead of other teams who could also move up to acquire Stafford/Sanchez/Freeman.
by JZChiefsfan on Apr 2, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget my comment earlier about preventing onslaught of FanPosts about trading with Denver.
Apparently, it cannot be stopped. I may present a motion for mercy deletions. :)
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You get bak to packing your wife, mister!
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*back
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now, I am watching her pack!
Something about all the bending over packing boxes has done something for me!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you're watching her stuff the foam peanuts in the box. :)
Ok, I’ll stop now.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We now know why
you are the resident funnyman!:)
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 2, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Brodie
Trade Brodie and LJ to Jets for a 2nd round or even a 3rd. Then deal Denver our 3rd for thier 8 and 12 picks. That would be very favorable for the Chiefs
by Digital on Apr 2, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I want your weed.
Brodie and LJ for a 2nd?
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tradeing Brodie for a used condem and a pack of strawberry coconut zingers..
would be very favorable for the Chiefs.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 2, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You had me at used condom and strawberry coconut zingers...I salute you. :)
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait used or reused condom?
I turn mine inside out and use em twice.
Tim Floyd turning down our offer is more humiliating than getting rejected by a fat chick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 2, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I’m laughing really hard at that.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 2, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? That shit hurts when it dries, you masochist. :)
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 2, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's inside out
it doesn’t dry on him. Presumably it dries on her. How does that make him a masochist?
Although, flippin it inside out and reusing it does negate every benefit of wearing it in the first place.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 3, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your article leads people to believe that
the Broncos can only trade with the Chiefs for the QB left after Detroit selects. Not true. The Chiefs won’t draft a QB because of the money invested in Cassell. That automatically drops a QB to at least pick #4.
by TonyG88 on Apr 2, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhh. That's kinda the whole frikkin point.
If you think Seattle is going to take the QB at #4 and you want the QB then you have to trade for a pick ABOVE Seattle in order to get him. You know the Chiefs don’t want the QB, so they are possibly open for the trade down.
The objuect is not to try to stop the Chiefs from taking a QB (because we aren’t in the market) it’s to jump in from of the #4 that very well may take him.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 2, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from = front
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 2, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...but...
WIth so many others competing for Sanchez we can trade with them…Which I am sure has already been said…
by woodman212 on Apr 2, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My dream trade scenario
1. We trade with Denver for both thier firsts so they can grab Sanchez ahead of the Seahawks or Cleveland since it seems Mangini isn’t enamored with either QB
2. We grab Emmit Brown with the Twelth pick. If he is not there one of the USC LBs preferably C. Matthews
3. 18th pick we grab Monroe if he is there. If not it’s Eben Britton.
With the Monroe pick done we trade Waters for a 4th and we slide Albert to his natural LG position and Monroe is our LT. That done we have the left side of our line for the next Decade.
If no Monroe we grab Britton who is projected to RT and we have our bookend tackles and two previous Pro Bowlers as guards and we grab a C in the third or 4th.
This is all because after looking at film I really like Brown as our D pick he is perfect for the Hybrid 3-4/4-3 system. He is a good 4-3 end and can stand up and crush as OLB in the 3-4. Nothing against Curry but he fits one scheme ALOT better than putting him in both.
by fixitquick79 on Apr 2, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kc
PIOLI IS A GENIUS GETS CASSEL THEN LEAKS THAT THE BRONCOS WERE GOING AFTER CASSEL. LOL THE AFC WEST JUST GOT A WHOLE LOT MORE INTERESTING GOOD LUCK THIS SEASON MARES!!! YAY THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD! IM GLAD YOU GOT RID OF VJAY JAY DENVER MARES!!!! LOL VJAY JAY IS A BEAR!!!! LOL AND I JUST HEARD A REPORT THAT NOW BRANDON MARSHALL HAS REQUESTED A TRADE BRANDON MARSHALL HAS JUST REQUESTED TO BE TRADED TOO!!!! BRANDON MARSHALL IS LEAVING THE MARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :) 8) :lol: :wink: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :D
by SPORTSFIENDZ on Apr 2, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This pic is
money!
We need to archive that right here on AP so that anyone can bring it up at any time.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Apr 3, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats more of a chin curtain
than a neck beard tho
by Grand Master A on Apr 3, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is just silly reasoning.
“I don’t like the Broncos, so I’m not going to trade with them.”
What? That means that you would potentially give up an opportunity to improve your team just because you hate Denver?
Sure, I hate Denver as much as the next guy. But you trade with whoever, if it improves your team.
Maybe, you have a preference to trade outside of the division. Fine. But if Denver is offering you the best deal, you take that deal.
by rockchalk on Apr 3, 2009 12:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you sir dont get it
who ever we trade we have to play against in the division and if the player kicks our ass its not good
by Grand Master A on Apr 3, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way I see it.
I don’t really think the question is if we should help the broncos or not. The question is, if the trade is offered, would it hurt the broncos more to accept the trade than to not take it?
If we take the trade we get 2 top class players and negate the cassel trade. The broncos get a qb from this weak ass class and since they will have so much money wrapped up in them they won’t take from the stronger class next year.
Granted we are assuming the bears will have a good first rounder next year.
But I ask you. Is it better to let the broncos get a top notch qb next year, and us ignore a trade down? Or we double down and stick the broncos with a weaker QB.
by The Steel City on Apr 3, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You do trade with a rival
You do trade with a rival— if it’s a trade that you win. If you get more out of it than they do, then you do it. Especially if you get WAY more out of it.
We don’t need to make a fair trade with Denver. But they are in a position of weakness, and we should try to exploit that. McDaniels has made a fool of himself over his lust for Matt Cassel, and now has no real QB, while his division rival has the QB he wants so badly. We should exploit that by offering to trade him Cassel, in exchange for all the Bears draft picks they picked up, plus Denver’s #2 pick. McDaniels would basically be trading Cutler and a #2 pick for Cassel and Orton. He would have to really consider that trade, given how much he loves Cassel.
If we could get McDaniels to do the deal, we’d have traded our second round pick for Mike Vrabel, plus Chicago’s #1 pick this year, plus Denver’s #2 this year, plus Chicago’s #3 this year, plus Chicago’s #1 next year. While keeping all our own picks. Basically filling our roster with young talent, including three first rounders in two years. We can certainly live with Thigpen at QB for another year in exchange for all that.
If McDaniels comes to his senses and won’t do it, fine, let him watch someone else take the top rookie QBs at #1 and #3 (after we trade down and still draft Curry) and his heartthrob plays against him twice a year while he’s stuck with Kyle Orton. He’s over a barrel right now, and we should nail him to it.
by Offense of the 70s on Apr 3, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is wayyyy too out there.
If detriot doesn’t pick Stafford or they want Sanchez and think he wont be available after #3, I could see them trying to trade their 2 first rounders for ours. But that’s about as far as I would go.
Everyone needs to just accept that Pioli wants Cassel playing for the chiefs. I think he wanted him just as bad as McDaniels did, but since he does his job very well, kept it secret.
Now Pioli has Cassel and that is where he is staying. Period.
Or maybe I’m just crazy.
by The Steel City on Apr 3, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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