Anquan Boldin: 'I wouldn't mind playing for Chiefs' Todd Haley'
by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 3:28 PM CDT
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We've received some news via 610 Sports that multiple players on the Kansas City Chiefs are not fans of new coach Todd Haley. Apparently his former players with the Arizona Cardinals don't feel the same way.
Anquan Boldin appearing on the Michael Irvin show (via Dallas Morning News):
Boldin, who said he just has a player-coach relationship with former Cardinals coordinator Todd Haley, said he wouldn't mind playing for him in Kansas City.
Of course Boldin says this the same day I say there is no chance the Chiefs give up the reported asking price, 1st and 3rd round pick, for the Cardinals receiver.
Boldin also said he wouldn't mind playing in the NFC East either.
I wouldn't read too much into this. Boldin likely won't be coming here - it takes two to tango and it would be very out of character for GM Scott Pioli to give up the Chiefs' first three picks in the 2009 NFL Draft.
What's intriguing about this is that we have just heard that multiple players in Kansas City reportedly do not like new coach Todd Haley. 610 Sports reports that Will Franklin was a "marked man" by Haley which prompted his request for his release.
Boldin and Haley had an on-camera tiff during the playoffs last year. Both players came out of the situation saying it was a no big deal. But that, combined with the reports from 610 Sports that Haley gets in fights with players a lot, makes more than a few people nervous that the new coach is going about business the wrong way in Kansas City.
Not that we needed the Boldin-to-KC rumor mill fodder but it makes for an interesting offseason.
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610 Sports didn’t name them.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I imagine one was Will Franklin.
Big deal, it’s not Haley’s job to try to make everyone like him.
Will Franklin wouldn't talk about his release
610 tried to ask him for a comment and he just said he’s moving on.
He didn’t talk about it then so I’m not sure if he did in the first place.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
610 kept reiterating that they were very confident with their report.
They said the multiple players said this to their face so it wasn’t coming from someone else.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I know. I almost wish Boldin hadn’t said that!
by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll try
KC trades LJ, a 3rd round pick, Kyle Farnsworth, and Jose Guillen to Arizona for Brandon Webb, Anquan Boldin, and cash. Once off the DL we send Bryan Pena to AAA Omaha to clear room for Webb. We turn around and trade Boldin to Philly for the #28 pick. We then trade the #3 pick to Denver for the #12 and #18 picks. We ship #18 to Carolina for Peppers. We then trade Peppers to NE for our origional second round pick and their third rounder.
Draft day we pick Rey Rey at #12, Bennie Wells or Knowshon Moreno at #28, Alex Mack or Max Unger in the second round.
Meanwhile, Brandon Webb gives the Royals the most dominant pitching staff in the MLB. They go on to win 95 games and make the playoffs.
The young but talented Chiefs win a weak AFC West but bow out early in the playoffs.
Now, KU and Mizzou both have top 15 NCAA hoops and NCAA football teams.
The city is in a sports frenzy. Moved by how passionate the city is about its sprots teams, the Maloof brothers move the Kings back to Kansas City.
I do not snort the coke I only smoke...sensimilla.
Dude..... if that wasen't typed up I'd be confused.....
Especially the trade scenario, I had to read that twice just to see who was going where…..
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 16, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
This is not suprising that haley is not earning the players trust so easy
This is what had me worried about this guy he just seems like a stoner type that uses bad choice of words so it seems.
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How wild would it be if we got bolden hahahh oh my god it would be crazy
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I agree it would be nice
to have Bolden,hell it would be great,but there’s no way i’d give a first and third rd pick for him!! T.Haley does come off like he might be a asshole,but you know what,if that’s what it take’s to win then so be it!
Heck if I were a player on a 2-14 team I wouldn't like Haley either!
If you don’t get that this guy is trying to light a fire in you (not a real one Lanier only a metaphor….. don’t burn me on this one :) …..you’re just flat out IGNANT!
and deserve to get cut, released, or traded! You wouldn’t fit into the SMART, Good and Fast football player that Pioli has been preaching about looking for since he’s come on board.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
i agree pacific
2-14 someone needs to snap these guys into shape. It seems like its chiefs way or the highway most these guy must be taking the highway. I just dont want the entire team to implode from bad choice of words from this guy.
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Agreed....but Haley is a little bit more experienced with dealing with pre-maddona's...
Nothing close to pulling a Josh McDaniels…..hehe…bye bye Cutler…
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 16, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens....etc...etc..
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 16, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you sure he didn't mean
before the madonna era? as in pre-1981? =P
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
No...no..I was talkin' about the Material Girl...
Isn’t that Owens nickname? =P
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 16, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure about Haley either, but time will tell.
It does seem like this guy is rubbing a lot of ppl the wrong way, what is with these rookie coaches with such a chip on their shoulder before they’ve even proven themselves as a HC. If you wanna try to be Bill Parcells, try accomplishing a few things first, then act like a hardcase. I dunno, but at least he’s not Kirk Ferentz
what about gun
that guy would rip everyones face off spitting tabacco all over the guys face and everyone respected him. And the guy Never went to a super bowl like haley has . I think he must insult players the wrong way i dont know somethings fishy.
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Gun's problems weren't in how he handled players
He was a poor talent evaluator and his O and D schemes were from teh stone ages.
Haley may fail. It takes more than ripping players apart to win. But worrying about him being too harsh is probably off base. Being a hard ass isn’t the only way to win (Bill Walsh, Tony Dungy, Tom Landry) but it is a time tested method. (Bellichick, Parcells, Cowher, Lombardi, Noll, Shanahan, Levy, Grant, Reeves, Lambeua, Brown, Halas, Shula….)
On a side note, here’s a link for the best pic poster on this site:
by KCSatchmo on Apr 16, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I know you didnt put up a picture of bow wow with a wig .hahahahah kc satchmo
rianna is bow wow with a wig.
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Agreed
But the nav frame on the left has some better options.
by KCSatchmo on Apr 16, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Pro Sports you are loaded with the Alpha Males...
and Haley is just showing them who is the Big Dog.
They were use to Herm serving them their Gatorade I guess.
Most players would probably prefer a coach that knows how to win.
I would guess that that is Boldin’s position.
Haley's job is to produce a winning football program.
If, in doing so, he can be liked by the players that’s great. If, however, the players are not comfortable with him being the “boss” and don’t particularly like him, big deal. Haley is coming into a situation in which the players really liked their former coach who was an unsuccessfully pussy. Winning coach=dislike. Pussy coach who can’t win=players like him. That’s not a hard choice.
Ridiculous equation
So you’re saying the players of the Colts didn’t like Tony Dungy? What about Dick Vermeil with the Rams? Bill Walsh? Bottom Line: the Coach is a piece, the best coaches still only win when the rest of the pieces are there, Jimmy Johnson-Miami, Mike Ditka-New Orleans, Mike Shanahan post Elway era, you’re generalizing.
by criticalmass on Apr 16, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure about Haley
For those of you who have reservations about the guy, so do I. However, getting in a players face when they’re out of line certainly isn’t one of the reasons.
He is inexperienced and has a lot to prove on Sundays. He could be a disaster when it comes to talent evaluation or maybe he has a smack addiction he’s hiding. who knows. But these conflicts with players are good signs that he’s on the right track and understands effective coaching.
Player a meeting to give his opinions on what you should do in free agency? Tell him to go away. Player wants to argue over playing time when you’re calling plays on a game winning drive? Tell him to sit down and shut up. Player wants to show up to camp out of shape? Run his ass into the ground.
This is how you reclaim the asylum from the inmates. There will be more incidents. More players will be cut. More players will be mad. More players will become former Chiefs. The ones who stay will at least have bought in to the plan.
as Chiefs fans, this is foreign to us. We’re used to operating without a plan.
by KCSatchmo on Apr 16, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions
I dont even care what haley does i just want the chiefs to win
I have been unsure of this guy the entire time . Just doest seem like the leader type to me . Alot of coaches can get under your skin and help you perform but it must be the right way. this guy seems like he insults people personally . I dont know i really dont know what to make of this guy right now i just hope we win all i know is brian waters got upset at the guy and he has been a class guy since day one with us so we shall see maybe we have been warned.
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Whats up fellas?
He seen talent in Franklin, rode him in off-season team activities, trying to light a fire, and get the best out of him. These guys are used to being coddled, Franklin came in under a players coach. Haley called him out, told him he was a marked man, and to step it up. Franklin could not handle it, and asked for his release. In my opinion, it is good to see Haley is already trying to get the best out of his guys. I liked Will, I thought he had a lot of potential.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
When you boss/coach calls you out you can...
…say “bet”, set up you game and become a better player for it.
- OR -
…asked to be released and or try to find another job.
I would hope that Franklin would say “bet” then perform at his greatest level ever. I really hope Will see how the coach calling him out is a good thing for him. (I would bet the farm that if the coach didn’t see something in Franklin he would not have bothered to “call him out” but would instead would not have wasted his time/breath on him.)
haley sounds like a dousch
pioli get you going and your like damn this guy is on it and then hailey looks up from his bong and starts talking its like who is this guy hahahah is that our coach hahah
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haley looks like a young drunk tom hanks that hasnt slept in like ten years. hahah
hes like sweating from his coke addiction hahahah
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I would bet a lot of money...
..that Belicick had multiple players dislike him when he came aboard in New England…Parcell’s isn’t that popular amongst his players either from a personality stand-point…
Toughness
If a player can’t handle mini-camp conditioning, he’s not going to fit with this new direction and we don’t want them on our team. I wish him much success somewhere where he doesn’t have to work as hard. I’m proud to know that our Chiefs will be a tough, hard-working team.
A coach’s job isn’t to be everyone’s friend. His job is to bring the best out of each individual player to form the best team. Will Franklin apparently doesn’t have the mental or physical toughness to contribute to the Kansas City Chiefs.
I have the feeling that Gunther would’ve LOVED working with Todd Haley.
All this talk about Haley
The players should play. They get paid to PLAY. If they don’t want to play. FUCK em!
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What I meant to say was
The players that can’t put up with him will be weeded out. Pioli and Haley are looking for certain players. If they are mentally weak or don’t like tough practices then they’ll be shown the door. The days of being pampered under Herm Edwards are over. New boss in town. I love what I see from Haley thus far.
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hailey just dropped he hates the raiders
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hell yeah!
Does this mean we actually have a coach who takes division rivalries seriously?
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Is Boldin still under contract w/ the Cards?
I saw today that Whisenhunt wants to either re-sign Boldin or Trade him. I don’t know if that just means a re-negotiation or what. Is he a Restricted FA?
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
He's got two years left on his deal
His teammate, Larry Fitzgerald, got a 4 year, $40 million deal last year so Boldin wants more money too.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 16, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Just because you yell doesn't make you a leader.
I don’t know what we’re going to have in Haley. I’m going to give him a fair chance for at least the first year. Ultimately, I don’t think you judge a coach until his third year.
That said, leadership is about conviction and charisma. I’ve met plenty of people who thought that yelling and screaming was enough. It isn’t. If the things you yell and scream about are not consistent, or you do it without the goal being to teach both that player and the rest of the team, then it doesn’t do anything. Embarrasing a subordinate can be motivating or devastating, depending upon how it’s done and the character of the player.
I think Haley and Pioli both want to see what kind of mettle these players have. Personally, if I were Franklin, I would see the fact that the coach singled me out as a factor of my talent. If he didn’t see anything in Franklin, then he wouldn’t even bother with challenging him. Most of these players would do better to look at it that way.
make a deal
why dont we give 3rd round and Lj, or TG because they both want out… and arinzona needs a TE
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