Lombardi: Chiefs' Gonzalez Empties Locker at Arrowhead
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:59 PM CDT
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The rumors (and we stress rumors) of a Tony Gonzalez trade are gaining steam.
Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post appeared on the NFL Network today and said the chances of the Chiefs trading Tony Gonzalez are at 80-85%. He reported over the weekend that the Falcons were "seriously considering" giving up their second round pick (#55 overall) in order to acquire the future Hall of Fame tight end.
Lombardi also said that Gonzalez has cleared all of his personal items out of the Arrowhead complex.
Nothing is concrete or imminent at this point.
Of course, people do clean things. We could be getting jazzed over a player clearing out his locker out of simple cleanliness. Could Tony just be doing a little spring cleaning? It's probably the most logical conclusion we can reach right now.
Lombardi is a former personnel executive for the Raiders and Broncos so he has ties to the AFC West.
Stay tuned for more information...
Note: Bumped this post up to the top for the night. Unless anything else happens that is. It was originally posted about 5:15 today.
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dude welcome to reality right now draft is coming heads are rolling
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
Here's my 2 cents
I love Tony, don’t get me wrong but I really don’t care what happens to him from now on. He is being a ore madonna and a distraction. Trade em for all he’s worth and draft his replacement. (Chase Coffman)
by Haleystheman on Apr 13, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Chris suggested that one of the voluntary mini-camps were ending
So that’s why he cleared out his locker. But there’s a mandatory veteran mini-camp on April 17th so that seems somewhat unlikely.
Again…these are just rumors at this point. Anything that is a rumor will be clearly stated as that.
No joke
Stafford with the Lions, Franklin released, Tony G may be traded… pretty busy day.
+1
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by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW
Talk about a double dose of bad new’s, i didnt even know about W.Franklin either until i read this! They must have thought he wasnt big enough i guess, we really didnt get to see much from him anyways!
by CPT.Caveman on Apr 13, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he cleared it out since the renovations were going to start in the locker-room by the hardhats
That’s for those who still argue think TG will stick around when Pioli could care less about the Chiefs prior to ’09 and is looking out to win a Lombardi.
He’s gone. LJ’s next.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
And let me clarify that I'm a TG supporter...but in Pioli's mindset, it's all about business.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Apr 13, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's been fun
Watching the best TE to play football ever, and i really was hoping for him to end his playing day’s with us! I wish T.G nothing but the best, and i really hope he get’s that S.B ring! Look’s like i might be pullin for the Falcon’s next yr! Don’t get me wrong, im still a Chiefs fan, but the Falcon’s if they get T.G will go into the #4 slot on my list!
by CPT.Caveman on Apr 13, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
"All about business."
+1 (just about rec’d you) to that.
I’ve been a Chiefs fan for my entire life, and a huge chunk of that time has included having the greatest TE of all time. The sun is setting on the guy (not in a bad way), and for a team to be willing to give something—anything!—for him is great. We get a 2nd round pick back for him, which is something Pioli values, and we send him to a place he might be able to better end his career.
In no way do I feel that ATL is a Super Bowl-bound town. They’re probably closer to a Super Bowl than us, but Shaquille O’Neal is probably closer to the stratosphere than I am (no disrespect). If Tony desires to see the grass on the other side, let him.
I’ll still name my first son after him.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
What do you know about Atlanta's chances?
Our did you just pull the opinion that one of the league’s most upstart young teams is no where close to winning the big one? Because I’ll venture to say it was straight from your ass. The Chiefs have a good young team but you went 2-14 and just got a system quarterback that replaces a qb in Thigpen that wasn’t even the real problem with the team. So even though you didn’t directly insult my team, putting us in the same general ballpark isn’t even a fair comparison. Good luck to your team, maybe you guys can make the kind of turnaround we did. It was improbable, but your division sucks so there is always a chance you can squeak in and make some noise. Moral of the story, don’t undercut a team just because you are upset about Tony G possibly leaving.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
whoa man
you’re on a Chiefs blog realize that. While I respect that your defending your team you don’t have to be so harsh
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Sorry I just committed a BUI
I’ll put the beer down and apologize, I took a second to scold him for that, but I meant no disrespect to Chief fans. As I said in my previous post if anyone knows about quick turnarounds, it’d be us Falcon fans.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I know what flogger is saying though.
I think the addition of TG is just what they need to put them into serious contention. Atlanta has all of the pieces in place. Tony adds run blocking and incredible pass catching ability to an already dangerous offense. He will be able to create mismatches that will have opposing coaches pulling their hair out.
I don’t want Tony to go but, Atlanta is a good team for him to go to. They will have a real shot with his help.
I hope he doesnt get hurt playing on the turf. He is not really used to that. Every team in the west has natural grass.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
Hasnt T.G had problem’s with a toe here in the last few yr’s? I hope it doesnt turn into a mistake just for that reason!
by CPT.Caveman on Apr 13, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
TG apparently refused
to go to any team with turf the previous offseason, but he may be willing to bolt out of town regardless. Atlanta’s turf is very natural feeling and he perhaps would be willing to make the concession to come play for the Falcons. Our turf emulates real grass. Jamal Anderson’s injury in 2001 forced a change to this more forgiving surface. I hope that’s not a deal breaker for him this go round.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
It’s nice that you took your little second here to chillax.
Our did you just pull the opinion that one of the league’s most upstart young teams is no where close to winning the big one? Because I’ll venture to say it was straight from your ass.
Maybe from the fact that ATL is one season removed from a stunning .250. Yes, 4-12 is much better than us, but I haven’t seen anyone anywhere consitering your team to be in the NFC elite.
Moral of the story, don’t undercut a team just because you are upset about Tony G possibly leaving.
Reading helps one to realize that I do want KC to make this trade.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
So you "do" want this trade to happen
So you can’t be upset at the team Tony would consider a much more viable winning option in 2010?
Check this concept out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutually_exclusive
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
wow....
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
by Dustin SLO,CA on Apr 13, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly how i feel truth its bizz he wants rings not fan favs
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
I wonder what Carl is up to these days....... :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Probably trying his hand...
as a car dealer. Saturn.
by thejesuslizard on Apr 13, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The guy has millions and he's laughing on the way to the bank
Hate all you want but for 10 years he was one of the nfl’s best gm’s and probably the best case study for aspiring gm’s…His worst mistake was hiring Herm
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 13, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Or getting rid of Marty Schottenheimer
But…we should digress. He’s a contentious point with Chiefs fans. Been there, done that.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
And now, this idiot realizes the dupe.
“Just caught up with Chester McGlockton. Time flies….”
“I still think I could of gotten more for Trent Green to Miami”
“I just got off the phone with Marty…did you know he loves American Idol?”
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Has to be a joke
Although its a damn funny one.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He's starting fires around your neighborhood.....
Carl is pyromaniac….look at what he did to the Chiefs before Clark let him go…. :)
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 13, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS IS GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TG was always a good enough reason to watch the Chiefs even when they were loosing. It will be a sad day to see him go. But we need a second very badly.
I don't buy into this that much
Until I see some concrete reports like he’s shipped his gear to Atlanta I’m on the edge of my chair
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I'm betting this is a false alarm
There hasn’t even been a mandatory mini-camp yet (April 17-19). Spring cleaning is my guess…
I hope you're right
I’m not sure what would be going through the head of someone who thought,
“Hey we’ve got our new, semi-proven franchise QB, so we should definitely give him Dewayne “Drop it when it counts” Bowe, a few horseshit FA’s and some draftees as receivers. But you know what would do wonders for this team? Another Bernard Pollard…"
=)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Apr 13, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha
Pefect. Rec’d
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep TG
Tony is a HOF that will get Matt Cassel out of trouble. He will be a safety valve. There will never be a TE as good as him. Thigpen would throw into triple coverage and TG would make the catch. 2d Round pick would help but dont do it to get rid of our most reliable offensive option. Cassel will struggle without a target. Bowe will drop balls. Cottam is unproven and has a history of injuries.
.
Nuts.
To be reasonable, a trade for TG would need to look something like this:
Chiefs send Tony Gonzalez to Falcons
Falcons send all future drafts picks and entire 53 man roster to Chiefs.
You don’t just deal away the best TE in history for an unknown quantity.
I've been saying
we need at least two picks. 3rd and a 4th would do it for me. or 2nd and a 6th.
I'd take a 2nd and a conditional
I’m sure the Falcons would gladly give up a first for a superbowl appearance
They’d gladly give up a second for an NFC championship appearance
They’d gladly give up a third for a divisional round appearance
They’d gladly give up a fourth for another playoff appearance
They’d gladly give up a second and fifth if TG makes MVP
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I wouldn't go that far
They’re probably going to go to the playoffs regardless, and realize Tony G will go to the Pro Bowl regardless.
I’d say maybe a conditional 3rd or 4th rounder if they win the Super Bowl and Tony plays 85% of all snaps.
Thank God for you guys..I've been trying to preach about keeping Tony but everyone
is so bent on an unknown 2nd round pick..Theres no way in hell we make the play offs next year without Tony G..None
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 13, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Good deal if....
If TG is traded the Chiefs better draft Crabtree (ideally a couple of spots down) to replace TG’s production. That is the only way I am cool with our best player leaving town.
I was just thinking about that.
I would say this definitely increases the chances of taking a big shot WR in the first rd. If they can pull this off AND trade down, Maybe they will score Maclin and then start working on beefing up the lines.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys need to sober up from your Crabtree stupor.
The guy is a bust.
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not preaching Crabtree. I am preaching Maclin Baby!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I got too excited
and replied to the wrong post.
If we dump Tony we will have to look for WR investments
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Its all good
I have been preaching Maclin on here for a while now. Mainly I just dont want the Raiders to get him.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That's right.
I remember you saying that earlier. Any username with ‘chiefs’ in it all blends together in my mind to the same person. lol
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I have been thinking about a new name...
I think I will change it to Buck Naked.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
you should hit sexassassin up
for your icon
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
quite the imagery.
Or Nuck Baked. Keep ‘em guessin’
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Its About Time.
The beers are going to taste so much better this year watching my Chiefs win games
no more crying and cussing at the TV. Go Chiefs,
NBC Action news
Leon Liebl reported that Atlanta tv stations were calling for footage of TG, can we read anything into that?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
We can read that it's spreading in Atlanta
I bet they find out before we do in KC.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
Word out of Atlanta
is that Tony G bought a really nice house near the city.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That confirms it
Where is Guppy with the fanpost?
please don't tell me your pulling a Lanier here
I’m to excited to be let down like this Chris
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Ugh I'm so looking forward to this trade happening
I wanna see Pioli rip off another team
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Dimitroff, and Pioli
worked together, so I do not think he would intentionally rip them off.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
true
but we ripped New England a good one considering the offers they were getting from other teams.. Iunno I’m just so selfish when it comes to the draft
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Plus anyone getting Tony G
is not getting ripped off. I’d say no matter how high the compensation both sides are getting a good deal.
true dat
Tony G is a straight baller. A good question was brought up earlier though. If TG goes to Atlanta and wins back to back super bowls with them, does he enter the Hall of Fame as a Chief or a Falcon?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Chief I hope, he was with us a LOT longer
And made his name with us.
Chris you've got a rock solid reputation
But we need a confirmation from Lanier before we go with this.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
The AJC says they can’t find anything concrete.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Take it from an Atlantan
Don’t trust the AJC, they told us we were getting Peavy and Griffey too.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would the tv stations know?
I bet they are just being prepared in case a trade does go down.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Leaks, maybe someone from their team leaked something.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Most TV stations have blogs now
They would have broken it by now.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Why in the wild world of sports
would Tony think Atlanta’s going to go to a Super Bowl before we are?
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 13, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions
Because they made the playoffs last year
Whereas we were 2-14
So it took 1 year
dont ya think thats going to get fast-tracked here with Don Pioli?
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 13, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony has nothing to do with it
It’s the Chiefs and Falcons doing the trade. Tony doesn’t have a say.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, nice observation
Does KansasCityShuffle watch the rest of the league play?
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure do
No offense intended, I just dont buy the Falcons as legitimate contenders. The Cardinals were calling out their snap counts and I think exposed how weak of a team they were to be playing in the playoffs. They were certainly better than the Chiefs and its not that I don’t believe in Matt Ryan, its just I have uber confidence in Pioli’s ability to turn this team around into a contender in 1 to 2 seasons moreso than Dimitroff.
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 13, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Not trying to start an argument here
But you are basing the fact that the team that won the NFC, beat the Falcons 30-24 (at their home) and called out their snap counts, therefore, the Falcons are not legitimate contenders? I think you will want to either take that back or rethink your stance on the Falcons. The weakness was the defense and the Cardinals came through with an incredible second half. You don’t win 11 games with a rookie quarterback, and have a dominant run game, to then drift off into obscurity the next year. I think this Falcon disrespect is purely born in the fact that Chief fans are upset over their fan favorite leaving and not what you actually believe. So you’d believe Pioli can turn around a team quicker than someone who has already done so? What are you smoking, because I want some of that good stuff!
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not disrespect to have an opinion that isn't yours.
And not surprising, a chiefs blog doesn’t think the Falcons are better than the chiefs. Alert the press!
Seriously dude. We all appreciate any information from your side of the transaction that could be going on here, But don’t try to sidetrack us with Falcons vs the World stuff. We have enough to focus on, and the Falcons could win the NFC next year for all I care.
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If you don't think the Falcons are better than the Chiefs you're not a homer
you’re delusional. Sorry you are so easily sidetracked by a comment on a blog, relating to a discussion on the Falcons, that didn’t have anything to do with you. Simply challenging that his opinion of the Falcons was based on the fear of losing Tony G and not reality, is a fair question to pose. But misconstrue my argument and intentions and run away if you must.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
If we wanted to get into this we could. But we would have to get into what defines who is a better team? Is it who would have the better record? Who could beat who in a game? Who will go furthest in the playoffs?
I’m not so much talking about the topic of the thread, but the site itself. All that happens when other teams bloggers come on here and attacking people when we say something negative about their teams, is that a fight ensures and we have another post about our rules for people like you.
So I’m going to listen to that now and ignore you. Hope to see you in the superbowl.
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
correction
start attacking
and
ensues*
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay Atlanta kicked our ass last year.
New team, new attitude, and we have the Don.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to fight
I just want to discuss the merits of your arguments and those you support. Isn’t that what these blogs are all about? Instead of chirping about all the negativity that will surely ensue because no one from outside is capable of a rational discussion, let’s discuss. If you really think Tony Gonzalez is wrong to think that the Falcons don’t have much more of a chance of making a deep run into the playoffs, than I’d like to read something intelligent to back that up. Is it crazy for him and for folks like me to think that the Falcons have more potential in the next 2-3 years? Is the Chief o-line good enough to protect Cassell and return LJ to prominence? How bout that defense?
Don’t worry about the spelling and grammatical errors, unlike most trolls, I don’t harp on that stuff. We have some trolls over on our boards on all sports that think arguing those petty things discredits the arguments of the poster.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Before the season started last year...
The Falcons were a rebuilding team with no QB to lead them and a RB that had never been the #1 guy. In addition, they had a pass rusher who’s tank was running in the second 1/2 of most games, and a group of receivers that had never made any real impact for the team.
In short, the Falcons were in a bad way. Then the draft happened and they added a rookie QB to the team that may or may not have been the answer.
Point is, if we had this conversation at the same time last year (pre draft) the Falcons would have have no more cred than the Chiefs do today. There is no point in arguing about which team was better last year, because the record speaks for itself. There really isn’t much point about which team will be better next year, because anything could happen in the draft, offseason, FA market etc..
For all you know Matt Ryan could tear an ACL/MCL on the first day of the offseason program and never play a snap all of 2008. I certainly don’t wish that on him, but you are on a Chiefs blog. Seriously, how much support for your argument do you think you will get?
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I'm not asking for support just an explanation
Of why Tony G would be crazy to think that the Falcons have a better chance to win that the Chiefs. Other than freak accidents, there isn’t really any argument against this. So my point is made I guess. It’s moot anyway, apparently Kansas City has rejected Atlanta’s offer of a 2nd round pick. Dumb on your part. Keeping a guy that doesn’t want to be there to lead in the locker room.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 14, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a bullshit question
you can’t come here and expect a solid answer to a question that’s emotionally charged for a lot of these fans. It’s inflammatory on your part and it’s obvious that it’s getting old to some of our regulars. It is what it is. If he goes, we’ll be compensated for him and you’ll get an amazing player. What else do you want if you’re not here looking for a fight? Not looking for a fight you say? Then drop it already.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
It’s funny because I never expected a solid answer to begin with. Just wanted to hold a couple of homers accountable for their ridiculous claims and inject the discussion with a dose of reality. Fight and honest debate are two different things. If this is too emotionally disturbing of a topic to discuss, then that’s all that needed to be said.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 14, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Why ask a question.
When
It’s funny because I never expected a solid answer to begin with.
This isn’t your turf to be holding anyone accountable for our views on anything.
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 14, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I was hoping to be
pleasantly surprised with a rational argument as opposed to picking at me. Yet, you continue the trend. This is your turf? This is a blog, get a life, and try to enjoy yourself around here. I wanted a healthy debate on the subject, that’s what sports fans do. If you’d rather sulk, then go right ahead.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 14, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Picking at you?
Read your own words here molly. It’s increasingly obvious that you’re here to get a rise out of the locals in spite of the fact that you say you’re looking for a rational argument. I sat on the couch last night and watched you do your best to torture my AP brethren while waving the banner of sound argument as justification to do so. Now that the Chiefs rejected the trade offer by the Falcons, the point is moot and yet here you are, the very next day continuing to press the issue.
The name of this site is “Arrowhead Pride.” Pride being the operative. We wear it on our sleeves. The last time I checked, pride had more to do with emotion than logic. The fellas do a damn good job around here for the most part looking at all sides to an argument, but because this is a fan site of a specific nature, you better believe there’s a bias. Can you dig it?
If you wanna stick around, fine, be our guest and contribute. If you wanna stick around and rub salt in the open wounds of a bunch of fans who have endured some of the worst years in franchise history with the prospect of losing a all-pro favorite, then you’re not here for any good purpose and you should leave.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Good response
Finally, thoughtful analysis of a situation. I shall leave satisfied.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 14, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything could happen Molly...
Defense could fall apart…Chiefs were dominant in 03 and fell off in 04 the same way.
This implies that we had a defense last year
My argument was with the logic of the previous poster. Surely, I’m not naive enough to think that a collapse is impossible, albeit it is very unlikely.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Logic from my assumption? I think you need to reread my post and the logic of the post I’m questioning. And get a grasp on general sentence structure. So as to not misinterpret my posts.
I got the nerd boot. Ouch. Well I guess that will have to substitute for an honest discussion.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Bubba Kush
I was making my assessment based off my opinion that I don’t think Atlanta has a defense. It’s hard to win in this league, especially in the post-season, without a solid defense. Your offensive line was phenommenal last season but they’re not going to win games for you. Your team has certainly turned things around, like Miami, but neither are what I would consider contenders. So while my smoke is good you are the one I would call high for thinking your team (Atlanta Falcons) are Super Bowl contenders
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 14, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Our defense is our weakest link and is a young one. Last year though, they were ball hawks in the clutch and won a few games for us that we probably shouldn’t. The D will be addressed through the draft this year and adding Mike Peterson to play the Will, should be a good enough D to easily win the NFC South.
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by Molly Flogger on Apr 14, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't ask that. Don't even hint at it.
We wouldn’t want to insult the Falcons fans who frequent THIS blog.
/sarcasm
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
Oh that
acerbic wit. Such a funny guy, bet your pet snake and your dr. pepper big slam get a big kick out of your knee slappers. But void of any substance, you are just wasting everyone’s time. So honestly, what about a revamped 11-5 team built with young stars and the acquisition of a pro-bowl tight end do you not feel is keeping them from being legitimate contenders? I don’t think Tony Gonzalez is crazy to think his chances for success are exponentially greater in Atlanta than KC.
SuperStar Fred McGriff gives this post his "full endorsahment"!
by Molly Flogger on Apr 13, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
This is my 6-year old daughter talking.
tony is my favorite player and I think if he gets traded out then im probably gonna get mad
because i think he does good on the team he is on right now
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Apr 13, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
I am so proud of my baby!
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
That's too damn cute.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
TG is her favorite player,
She has a poster of him on her wall. She has had it since a tailgating with Trent function.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Get her a poster of Don Pioli
At least he’ll be a consistent fixture on the team. Lot’s going to change and this is just the beginning bro.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
So we all think LJ is gone,
what does this say for Waters future, if this deal happens?
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Just deal him
In the best Ron Burgundy voice I can do, “I don’t even care anymore!”
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 13, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He's gone, yo
With all the reports I think the writing is in the sand. Leaving with Tony is the old era of the Chiefs, where I wish they would now deal away LJ & Waters too because this is now unquestionably Pioli’s team. He’s going to do a Parcells type purge of the roster and rid it of personnel from the previous regime. I welcome the change but at the same time feel disheartened because it spells the end for Chiefs I’ve come to love like Waters, LJ, & Hali.
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 13, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
Shuffle is right.
This will make it official. The old Kansas City Chiefs will be dead and gone. It is time to usher in a new era of football.
One thing that I don’t care for (even though it is probably best) is the fact that our new leadership has no sentiment for what has been Chiefs football for a long time. They see it from a different perspective than we do as fans. I wish the best for Tony if this deal goes through. I will root for Atl because of Tony but, if we end up playing them…I hope we stomp their fucking guts out. Sorry, just bidness.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow I didn't know we need an "official makeover" for you
All along I thought we just wanted to field the best team this season!
Who’d have thought we we’re trying to make a statement by trying to change our image..
Anyways I call BullShit on you
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 13, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
=)
There are no stupid questions just stupid people
Do you always come here with the intention of agitating others?
There is more to being a member of AP than jumping into threads, attacking other’s viewpoints, and then stating you refuse to listen to any counterpoints.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn, there is? So are you asking me to leave now? /wink
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
I am going to hate to see TG go.
The vision of him carrying 3 or 4 defenders to get extra yardage, it gives me chills
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
For reals
I hate the “newer/more recent is better” attitude, but my highlight film has many more TG moments than DT moments. And there was a hell of a lot of DT moments.
-cw
"If there’s a god he’s laughing at us and our football team." - Ben Folds
the late second sucks this year!
early seconds where its at! This is gonna be as pailful as watching John Smoltz walk from the Braves
Later fellas, 24 is coming on.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Later, Eric.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Get this over with already
I’m tired of Tony whining as a Chief. Let’s move on to a new team. Get the 2nd, we’ll make good use of it. Trade down, pick up another 2nd. Ditch LJ for a 5th or 6th. Hell send Dorsey & Waters packing if you have to, though I don’t necessarily want to see that happen. But if we could get a 3rd for Waters I’d be happy, or a late 1st for Dorsey I’d be happy. I’d rather have Haley’s & Pioli’s players than Carl’s & Herm’s!
Ditch LJ for a 5th or a 6th...Damn that's stupid
What are the chances of a 5th or 6th give us the output of a larry johnson for the next three years..Slim to none..That is almost as ridiculous as people clamoring for Brodie to compete for the qb spot..
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 13, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
LJ is done here.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
Wow Califan..after the post above I thought you were an asshole.
I agree with you about LJ though.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 13, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I've been acting like an ass
My bad and my apologies…Honestly!
I get a little heated sometimes! I certainly didn’t mean anything personally!
Just hoping we keep our strenghts but I understand people wanting new draft picks for people who have voiced to not be chiefs anymore in the past..
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 14, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I am not panicking til it happens...
Clark said he didn’t want him going anywhere but if it gets us a 2nd then I would bite…
lmao
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha...
“You are bastard people…and Im gonna go home and Im gonna bite my pillow is what I’m gonna do!”
Best in Show
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
not me.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. :)
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Clark also said Herm was safe.....hehe....
Clark lives in Bazzaro world…everything he says its the complete opposite
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 13, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No, He Said He Would Review It With The GM
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He still said Herm was safe, but changed his tone when he hired Pioli
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 13, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No, at the beginning of last offseason he said he wanted improvement from 4-12...
Then after Carl he said he would talk to the new GM about it…
But Clark also said that he supported Herm through this youth phase....
and that he could see improvement even though it didn’t reflect in the Win/Lose column.
Clark also told the media that when he hired a new GM that he would have the final say during the firing or retaining of our beloved Herman.
Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.
by aPacificChief on Apr 14, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly.
If TG is worth a 2nd, LJ sure as hell is. Anything else isn’t a net gain. Not net gain, not bidness.
P.S. I still don’t agree with the Tony trade. Its a respectful disagree where I hope I am wrong, but this just sums it up.
"Hey we’ve got our new, semi-proven franchise QB, so we should definitely give him Dewayne "Drop it when it counts" Bowe, a few horseshit FA’s and some draftees as receivers. But you know what would do wonders for this team? Another Bernard Pollard…"
"...said he could'nt go on the American way"
by The Steel City on Apr 13, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If so
then we wont have to trade down but we still could 4 more pics that a be great. but just to get back in the 2nd round in we can take A.Curry with that 1st pick and in the 2nd round we go center we need that more then a RT in my eyes we can go RT in a later round
~YOU MAD CUZ YO TEAM NOT THE CHIEFS~
Why isn't Cleveland interested
They just sent Winslow to Tampa.
Their second would be a whole lot better than 55th.
Does Tony still have a trade clause?
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
How bout Philadelphia, Buffalo, NY Giants, and Baltimore
They are all projected to pick a TE in 1-2 rds
Buffalo 42nd pick, Cleveland 50th, Philly 52nd
you don't have to win and you don't need to fight. Supertramp
Pakcage Waters & Gonzalez
for Peters & 2nd rounder. They can throw in Roscoe Parrish if they like
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 13, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
What ever KC gets for him
it better be the equivalent of the goose that pooped gold bricks.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Apr 13, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
There is a rec button for comments
If you click actions, then click rec. Enough recs and the comment turns green so it highlights the best comments.
Just a little motivation to write good comments, as evidenced by BCRavenJHawkfan.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 13, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sad day in KC if tony leaves..Seasons already over
O well I guess I’ll just jump on the never ending bandwagon for draft picks because its sooo much more fun to imagine what the chiefs could eventually be with young draft picks rather than watch a solid team play in 2009..Right Guys! Come on!……….
by CALIFAN1986 on Apr 13, 2009 9:48 PM CDT reply actions
seems like everyone here should want Herm back
trade away good players for unproven draft picks, it did so good for us last year
by bringbacktheglory on Apr 13, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
I understand the intention of your statement, but
the only player of import we traded last year was Jared Allen. From that, we now have Branden Albert, Jamaal Charles, and DaJuan Morgan.
Tony, LJ, and Waters have each asked to be traded. We are not championing it for the sake of getting draft picks. They asked to be traded, and we, rightfully, are trying to make the best case for our loss of their talent via draft picks.
Tony, LJ, and Waters created the situation we are now discussing.
Furthermore, the Jared Allen situation last year was Carl’s fault, not Herm’s. So, the tangential argument should be to bring Carl back not Herm.
From any aspect, the GM and the players instigated the trade speculation, not the fans in this instance.
"You said you was gonna take me to see Wu-Tang baby ...So I braided my hair, yes I did, cornroll and everything baby"
I don't have religion. I have Baduizm...and Billie Holiday.
by DThomasReigns on Apr 13, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Herm or carl
Herm was the coach he should have known our defense would be bad without Allen. How many games would we have won with Allen on the the field. Will be saying the same thing if we get rid of TG
by bringbacktheglory on Apr 13, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions
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