i dont know how he is going to fit in the new D. but I like the guy he is great with a deadly pass rusher on the other side but who isnt. I just really like his passion for every play he trys hard even though he lacks blazing speed the guy has toughness

He’s on par with his draft class, save Mario Williams:

Tamba Hali 0 18.5 career sacks

Mathias Kiwanuka – 16.5 career sacks
Darryl Tapp – 15.5 career sacks
Frostee Rucker – 1 career sack
Jason Hatcher – 5.5 career sacks
Kamerion Wimbley – 20 career sacks

I suppose the difference is that Kiwanuka is ascending where as Hali has taken a step back. Still, pretty pinner class for DE’s.

im sure he has more speed than teddy bruski could be wrong but i would like to see what he has . with his hussel he might be able to pull it off.

Well, I am a defensive coordinator, and like I said in a post the other day, I run a 4/3 base, with 3/4 personnel(3DL/4LB)! The LDE has a job to do, which is to get up field and contain the outside. They don’t make a lot of tackles and for the most part they must chip the TE on every play. The weak play in our LB corp is the reason why our DL sucks……………….Baltimore/Pittsburgh very rarely send just the DL on a rush, there always seem to be a LB or S coming from somewhere, which is how I run my defense! You must have guys lining up and coming from all over and your LB’s must fly around like wild animals!

I’m no expert, but it works for my team and I’m sure it will work the Chiefs, like is does for the Ravens/Steelers!

I have a question, w/o checking rosters or google, can anyone tell me the DE’s for both the Ravens/Steelers…………………….for some reason you never hear their names in the highlight………………..but they are the guys getting the job done so that Ray Lewis & Troy Polomalu can get all the glory!!

It seems like Pitts d line contains good and lets the line backers get a chance to breath and make plays .

Yea, sex, in the 4/3 Dorsey’s job is to create a double team, so that the RDE will be 1-on-1 with the LT, thus creating a blitz lane for the WLB, its open on everyplay. Also, it can be ran with the LDE knifing down inside which will take the LT with him, and the WLB has a clear shot to the QB on the outside…………………..!!

How would you use dorsey if he was your defender and how do you think we will use him this season? Or how will we use him if we go 3-4

anything from teams . We pretty much play tampa and here it is beat us . I just could not stand to watch teams just throw 8 yard pass 10 yard pass that is just heart breaking it allows you to get no rush in with tampon 2 because your basically saying take a first down.

I would run a 4/3 hybrid using a UT & Predator, Dorsey would play UT in a 3 tech on the LG thus leavn him 1-on-1, during this off-season, he needs to get back to 315(college weight) to be effective! My Predator would be Darrell Robertson, he’d be 1-on-1 with the LT, WLB would be Johnson, Tyler is the NT in a 0 tech on the C rushing on the strong side so to create a double team, Curry (?) at ILB, Vrabel at OLB, and Hali at LDE!! Johnson & Curry must threaten the blitz in the “A” gaps, while Pollard at SS would be in a rover position creating all kinds of confusion!!

in the back field stuffing the run fuck the sacks just get pressure stop the run thats all i ask for.

but even I’ve slowly come to realize Tamba ain’t cutting it anymore. I think he IS very talented and unquestionably the best LE we have on the roster ( but unfortunately that isn’t saying much because our draft picks are perennial underachievers). Tamba’s main strength I’d say is rushing off the left end against tackles who have more strength where he can use his speed but on the right end he gets owned by quicker tackles. His stats don’t lie but I wish they kept some stats for playing on the opposite side of the line of scrimmage because he’s always the first person in their backfield. If he was a better tackler he would have recorded more sacks last season but I would say thats his biggest weakness. I’ve been saying since Day 1 he can’t play in a 3-4 but would be wonderful if he could prove us all wrong

I think when Haley and Pioli talk about every player being on a “clean slate”… this is what they mean.

Good or bad, your prior performance is out the window.
Come in this year, work hard in the offseason, earn your spot, and learn the new system.
be a team player, do your job.

I think we can give hali, dorsey, DJ, Tank, Tyler, Edwards, Boone, whoever… a chance to prove themselves.

They were all drafted or brought into KC for a reason. True, the prior staff made those decisions, and not all of them were perfect… BUT, there are a lot of talented players on this team, offense and defense, that CAN contribute to a winning Chiefs team THIS year.

I don’t care that Hali didn’t get the job done last year or the year before
I don’t care if it was scheme, size, hustle or talent that cause the underperformance.
All I want to see is what CAN he do this year, given the new system.

any of these guys that don’t perform this year will likely find themselves out of a job next year.

But for now, I’m optimistic that the players on the roster, plus the new draft picks and free agents have a clean slate and (hopefully) a scheme and coaching staff designed to put them in a position to make plays and win.

Shouldn’t someone be hitting their peak by the third season?

Staying with the 4-3 this yr only help’s these young guy’s, but switching to the 3-4 get’s rid of anything they have learned! So i guess we start over, maybe we should just trade everyone that we have drafted the last 2 years on the defensive side of the ball, and start over! That way we can change and make everyone happy!

If we stay 4-3 all we needed was a pass rushing DE and a good MLB, just 2 people and our D would have been just fine. Instead we switch shit up, and now half of our D is now questionable, it’s crazy!