My sense of all this is that it has nothing to do with Cutler returning calls or being belligerent, but rather the Broncos seeing a new player they’ve fallen in love with, i.e., Sanchez. This is just an educated guess on my part, but something usually happens to change a team’s position, and it normally happens when you find a solution to the problem. The Broncos have their eyes on someone, and I’m guessing it’s Sanchez since he has all the qualities McDaniels values in a quarterback.
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Considering the history
Of junior QBs with one year starting, then that’s fine by me.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What would you say about Cassel then??
by Chris Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But he’s proven he can do it in the NFL. He’s less of an unproven commodity.
It’s a risk…and it looks like it’s paid off (so far).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Big Difference
People refuse to accept it, but the NFL and College are just fundamentally different. Cassel is 26, he spent four years in college and three now in the league. Sanchez is 22 with one college season supported by arguably the best defense in college football last year.
We personally think Sanchez will succeed (total gut on that one) but it’s like comparing a blue chip stock (present market aside) with a powerball ticket.
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Apr 1, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he
finished college and had was it 3-4 good years behind the prime of a dynasty and its QB, and one full year of playing time, yes could still be a one year wonder….i guess but i like Cassels odds much more
by DT58forever on Apr 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I enjoy this now
I am thinking that McDaniels is pretty good with QBs, and especially one he can shape/mold like Sanchez. I also think that his entire career and reputation are on the line and it will be a priority above all else for him to develop a QB equal or greater than Cutler.
home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!
by Holmeslice on Apr 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
At the very least
The Broncos now have a much more difficult hill to climb.
by Chris Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Cutler is about as good as it gets as far as young QBs go. I know he has some issues but talent like him doesn’t come around that often.
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His issues
are what I think makes him not an elite QB. I saw someone else say he could be good on a team with a decent defense where his INT’s won’t matter quite so much.
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
by IISaiNtII on Apr 1, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pro Bowl and 4,500 yards passing by year 3
And he’s not on the path to being elite?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just look at him...
He screams “I’m an emo bitch.” I don’t care how much talent he has, or could have. His attitude destroys it all. I’d rather have this Jay Cutler:
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
by IISaiNtII on Apr 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh,
In my opinion he shouldn’t have made the pro-bowl last year b/c RIvers had a MUCH better year and the main reason he had so many passing yards is b/c they couldn’t keep a RB healthy… didn’t they go through 7 of them?
He is good, but I don’t think he is great.
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by bigknoxy on Apr 1, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Won't matter.
After this debacle, he’s already on the hot seat in Denver. If he doesn’t win immediately, you’re looking at a situation like what the Chiefs were looking at last year with Herm and Carl. The problem is, they’re going to have to win immediately with a rookie quarterback taken from one of the weakest quarterback draft classes in recent history.
Even if they love Sanchez (and get him) or manage to talk Detroit out of their #1 pick and get Stafford at the top of the draft, they’re going to struggle to put things together in the amount of time that the fans (and the ownership) are going to be willing to deal with McDaniels.
My prediction: McDaniels will be out and Denver will be looking for a new coach within two years. Then, they’ll get to start this whole process all over again — and all because they blew it when they fired Shanahan (whose smile muscles have to be crampin’ up on him right now).
by JacinB on Apr 1, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cutler is good this might rank up with trading the great hambino right now the curse of the broncos.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can not imagine how happy that I am glad that the Broncos hired McDaniels.
If the did not hire this guy, we probably would have. He appears not to have a clue. There are about 10 teams that have high quality QB’s and the others continue the ongoing search to find theirs. He arrives to the broncos with one of the most promising young QB’s in the game and he totally blows it. He appears to have Belicheck’s people skills (and in my book that is not a positive). Belicheck gets away with it because he wins, mcdaniels does not have his reputatuon and I think the players have probably already bailed on this guy. He should be the first coach ever to be hired and fired before the season.
by saskwatch on Apr 1, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be hilarious
He should be the first coach ever to be hired and fired before the season.
Though I don’t think it’ll happen (nor do I think much of the blame goes on him).
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When facts are considered, no.
But, that’s not the perception. The perception is that he blew it with Cutler. And, as the saying goes, ‘Perception is reality.’
by JacinB on Apr 1, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a way it doesn't matter. Now Cutler will have to prove that he can get along with a new coach and offensive co-ordinator.
Maybe it won’t be able to. It woundn’t surprise me.
by jcox31mc on Apr 1, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You dont trade your chicken salad for chicken shit
if they are thinking sanchez im loving our chances for the next 10 years.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Right
And even if Sanchez is chicken salad what did you really gain? Two years of development time?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly he is going to get handled by the nfl bring his ass to arrowhead the crowd alone
will give that guy nerves. the nfl is a different beast the D is so much faster so advanced it takes qb years to understand and read what they are doing. no way sanchez is a threat to us.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im trying. hahah
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now if I can just work on my capitals hahah.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't let PT pressure you out of your style
we like it, it reads, it’s short, bam
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Apr 1, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha thanks
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely agree.
as one who switches from good to bad on grammar/punctuation depending on mood, i think the periods help but don’t worry about anything more than that unless you feel like it. Prime can be the grammar nazi till he’s blue in the face, but he only has power if you give it to him….don’t give him the POWER!!!
by thehulk on Apr 1, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah cool no power to you priiimmeee
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I'd hate to see Sanchez in Denver.
He’s got super star written all over him.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
What would you do about your Sanchez crush if he went to the Broncs?
by Joel Thorman on Apr 1, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose it would be better than Maualuga going to Denver.
Still absolute heart break.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might need therapy...
…if Sanchez goes to the Donk’s and he turns out to be another QB the likes of Elway. Especially if you really like him before thedraft.
Wow, talk about karma.
;-)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Apr 1, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Karma?
The fuck did I do to deserve that? I’m an honest dude, pay my taxes, am good to my woman, take care of my dog. I’m hoping we don’t need to go that road and he goes to the J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...I figured I'd get your attention :)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Apr 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
saancheez ?????
no way he might have the swagger but the nfl it self will change that. Take a couple hits face a couple real deal d’s and he will be done. Dude bronco fans right now are hoping they get brady quinn. hahah . brady quinn we can all pretty much say he had a pretty good college career plenty of starts played in some big games. He had his chance and he got handled by the nfl. Sanchez has one season under his belt in college he is going to get soo handled by the nfl trust me no qb walks in the nfl and rips it. no one.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some real D's?
You mean like Penn State and Ohio State in addition to the rock solid Pac10?
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone in the nfl is what im talking about
he hasnt faced a nfl defense.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He faced SC's defense everyday in practice...
thats as close to an NFL defense as any college QB is going to see.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true but they are not trying to kill him
and either way only a couple players from the teams he is facing are going to the nfl. its a different beast sanchez will be handled their is a reason why his coach was begging him to stay. he knows more than anyone knows that he just isnt ready.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Pete was speaking out selfishly...
he wanted Sanchez back because he doesn’t have someone ready to step in and compete for a national title. I don’t think Sanchez is going to burst on the scene like Ryan did, but give him a year to develop and he’s going to be damn good.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way Pete would never do that he has 3 All Americans behind
Sanchez the guy is not ruthless. Ya his chances might have been better with Sanchez at the helm . But pete is a top gun at recruiting he has plenty of men he can throw in that will get the job done. He just knows the nature of the beast in the nfl its a different game . And with his experience you just dont walk in and win.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Capitals AND Periods?
Say it ain’t so =(
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Apr 1, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im trying pretty slow right now at work
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude the only thing sanches will have written all over him is
currys cleat marks after he trucks him the first play of the game.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's that lame argument again...
Comparing any college team to any team in the nfl is apples to oranges. Practicing with Southern Cal’s D doesn’t really do anything to prepare him for what he’ll face in the nfl on a sunday.
You have to like the donkey’s getting this character over them having Cutler. Although they both seem to be a little caught up on themselves Cutler’s proven he can be a dominate force at times.
I personally think they are more likely to get Detroit’s #1 and pick Stafford.
by Chief Crazy on Apr 1, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If they were smart they would go get brady
from the browns they wouldent have to pay crazy money and they would get a qb that has run a similar system it would make total sense. But I still think brady sucks but would play better than stafford.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Quinn is a quick fix
Stafford is the long term solution…In a nutshell.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 1, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really short term is the guy 80 years old on his way out of the nfl he got drafted what 2 years ago
he has played in some NFL games he runs the same system under charlie weiss . I mean I think quinn would be a long time solution. TO be blunt stafford is like 3 years away.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me. I like Brady Quinn. I think he is a damn good QB.
But, I think Stafford has potential to be stellar in the very near future.
Quinn would definitely give them a better chance to win now.
To be honest, I think Cutler is waaaay overrated. He has put up some good numbers but, he throws a lot of picks. I would just as soon he stay in Denver as opposed to Quinn or Stafford for that matter.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 1, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler is not over rated the picks are just game
situation could have been tipped balls or receivers fault never know . either way cutler is a franchise changer he can change your team to be competive over night.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing changed
I dont think it was that anything changed in the process they just thought the day would come and they needed to trade him away or start upping his value, but i dont thinkdenver is eyeing someone and thats why they granted him permission, he got permission to get a trade because he didnt want to be there
by cassel4prez on Apr 1, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not buying the Sanchez thing
An established QB for as someone said a Jr? Denver is not stupid and they are veteran, those guys can’t wait for a QB to mature. And unless you get the top pick (and then why not Stafford?) it’s dicey. Stafford gone and KC could trade the 3rd to SF, Chi, TB who want a QB…
by FrankPitts on Apr 1, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see Sanchez in Denver
so we can play him twice a year and keep a watchful eye on his development into a major league BUST. Then I can get my money from HIV and hit the ‘scrip’ clubs
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hiv do you really think sanchez is that good??
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's the best QB in this draft.
Maybe not the most NFL ready, but I think when its all said and done he’ll be the cream of this QB crop.
by HIV 2 Elway on Apr 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woow if sanchez read that i think even he him self would be like damn i am ?? I mean
maybe your right i just have a hard time believing it. When he has taken less snaps than stafford. i think stafford has a better chance. But it also depends on your system and your desire to play the game and get better. Maybe your right only time can tell. But history tells me sanchez will struggle against nfl D.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally?
I think he’s the next Ryan Leaf.
by JacinB on Apr 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
performance ryan was horrible
but what really did him in was his attitude and his off the field issues the guy was a flat out bust. sanchez i think he has the mind and maybe the swagger. I dont see that guy running to vegas with the cash or getting drunk. i just see it as he has no experience and the nfl will be to over whelming so yes i agree he will be the next ryan leaf if he is a starter.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly shuffle
I want them to get sanchez so we can mop them for the next 10 years. sanchez reminds me of namath with out the hall of fame credentials and according to uc namath doesnt belong in the hall of fame. But either way . Sanchez has the big smile the heart throb look but at the end of the day he is just a united commercial spokes man not a hall of famer.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 10:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the only part you agree on is the 'scrip' clubs
; ^ )
by KansasCityShuffle on Apr 1, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that wear screen writers meet to drool over each others scripts.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with cutler gone
they will need to bring in a vet to bring sanchez along. isn’t jeff george chomping at the bit to get back in?
by kcfansandiego on Apr 1, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Simple, Detroit can just throw in Culpepper. That would be awesome.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Apr 1, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
culpepper is a traveling he has probably moved more times than uhaul. He probably owns uhaul by now
maybe he should be there spokes man.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gonna steal that ...
… and pitch it to them as a potential Super Bowl commercial.
by JacinB on Apr 1, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as you give me a camio or something in the commercial.
It should be culpepper jeff garcia and terrel owens all like working as movers ahahah
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok here is the scene
Culpepper is driving a big truck pulling up to a big mansion. You see a man doing sit ups with press all around him its T O.
then the shot shows what type of truck culpepper is in its a uhaul truck.
shot goes back to T.O . running away from reporters
T.O says Im mooving to buffalo.
Culpepper says we have to make another pick up first.
T.O looks puzzled
Next stop jeff garcias house.
Culpepper honks
Its jeffs garcias wife very hot and sexy walks out im the gardner boy with the hose
licking my chops in the back round————- that was my camieo.
Culpepper and T.O yelll is jeff ready to move?
Jeff walks out the house slowly and sad with a box
and get in the uhaul.
SO culpepper drops of T.o in buffalo
and the finally jeff garcia meets up with brett fave joe montana steve young and carl peterson
at a senior citezens home. toooo good lock it up thats a wrap make me a millionare.
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jeff george probably has a better chance than sanchez. ok ok thats to far but you never know
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shall I start making an effigy now?
A Donkeys jersey with “Dirty” for the name on the back ought to do. The beauty of it is an old Cutler jersey will work. Denver is trading one #6 for another #6.
by chiefstatnut on Apr 1, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone read the posts from the National Football Post link?
There’s somebody named shannon j on there who is just trashing McDaniels and claiming he’s a Chiefs fan. It’s almost amusing, but it is kind of embarrassing at the same time.
by Reno_Chief on Apr 1, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i have to see this hahah
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shannon j needs to join this blog that guy is right up my alley.
he is pretty much saying everything i am saying just saying with cuss words .
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I join the chorus of...Not worried about Sanchez...
I am more happy that the Broncos no longer trust their coach…before even the first draft…
by woodman212 on Apr 1, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats what i love
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez or Stafford could only dream of having as good a year as Cassel had last year
……….and Cassel is only going to get better and better.
by jcox31mc on Apr 1, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The perfect end to this saga
would be that Denver’s interest in Sanchez heats up his value and some idiot GM is willing to move up to #3 to get him. Then the Broncos would have helped us move back and pick up a 2nd rounder to replace the one we traded to get Cassel that started the whole meltdown with Cutler.
Ten sacks in a season! For crying out loud that's what I used to average per game using DT in Tecmo Bowl!
by KCporkchop on Apr 1, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we need to get that pick back
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by sexassassin on Apr 1, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we do,
if we can find a way to drop back and still be within the top 15 and get a second, that would be amazing. I feel that we wuold still be able to Get Rey Malualuga within the top 15, and plus picling up a second as well. Oh yeah, that would be damn good and we would already be having the best draft for the second year in a row.
by readANDgold58 on Apr 1, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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