Reasons Why Curry is the Pick...
by ChiefsFan88 on Mar 31, 2009 7:00 PM CDT
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It's been a hot topic of debate for months amongst Chief fans whether the team should draft Aaron Curry. Some feel KC should go the prolific route and draft Michael Crabtree (although that camp has been less vocal recently), others feel the pick should be used on top offensive line talent such as Jason Smith from Bayor or Eugene Monroe from Virginia, an ex-teammate of Brandon Albert. Many also suggest the best route would be to trade down.
I believe the Chiefs should stand pat at #3 and draft Curry for the following reasons:
- Defense wins Championships- Look at this past Super Bowl. The Steelers had a great defense that came up with a tide-turning score late in the first half. Granted, they didn't play all that well late, but they were the reason that Pittsburgh was there in the first place. You need a good offense, but defense is the key. Another great example are the Rams of 99'. Everyone remembers their offense prowess, but their defense won them the NFC Championship and the Super Bowl. Not to mention they were ranked third in the league.
- By most people's estimation, Curry is the best player in the draft- Right now Kansas City needs talent in a lot of different areas. Wide Receiver and Left Tackle are spots of less need at the moment. We already have Tony Gonzalez and Dwayne Bowe to catch the ball, and with the emergence of Albert last year and the signing of RG Mike Goff, this team is a RT away from having a very strong O-Line. A quality RT can be acquired in the later rounds.
- Haley is an Offensive Coach, we need to counter-balance that with top notch defensive talent- Haley has already proven he can "coach em' up" on the offensive side of the football with most notably his work in Arizona. However, he has no coaching experience with the other side of the ball. If the Chiefs have average offensive personnel, Haley can make them into a solid, effective unit. I don't know if this is true the opposite way. Pioli needs to provide Haley with good, athletic players on the defense, making not only his but Pendergast's job much, much easier.
Those are my points as to why KC should go defense and draft the best linebacker available. He has great speed and size, he's strong and has incredible character by all accounts. I'm not going to site all the draft history in the last decade specific to position, because I don't think that helps at all. Each case can and will be completely different.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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heres the problem.
1) if they can trade down, they will. there is alot of talented linebackers all throughout the draft this year. same for O-linemen. so pick up extra picks and draft players that could still be really good for less than top 5 money.
2) i dont see the chiefs taking a lineman in the top 5 to play LT. it makes NO sense at all to move albert to RT and pay both positions LT and top 5 money.
3) with haley being at the helm, i could still see them drafting Crabtree. he would be the perfect complement to D-Bowe. think about it on one side you got Bowe, on the other you have crabtree. for tight end you have Gonzalez/Cottom (if TG gets traded) and in the slots you have Engram/Franklin/Bradley. i honestly see atleast one of these guys getting released (most likely bradley) if they draft Crabtree.
all i know and am saying is that there are so many options for the chiefs right now that it is nearly impossible to predict whats going to happen. especially since the draft is still 3 weeks away.
by chiefs8288 on Mar 31, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good points, by both guys...
8288… I agree that the chiefs will trade down IF they can… but IF they can’t…. I’d bet they will draft Curry.
I agree they would prefer not to draft another LT with the first pick… though Monroe would be interesting… I’m betting on a RT later in the draft.
I don’t see Crabtree being the pick. Yes, Haley likes his receivers. But, I think they have a good core to start with, and will look for a Mike Thomas or Knox, or someone later on to round it out.
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont get me wrong
i like curry and hope we do get him, im just saying that there are a ton of options right now
by chiefs8288 on Mar 31, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i can easily disagree with every argument you brought up so i will...
1. your argument for defenses whening championships is a valid one, but it really doesnt apply with the Aaron Curry argument. Everyone on here agrees that this defense needs to get better but there are many avenues to do that through. over paying for MLB is one, but there are still some cheaper options through free agency and later on down the draft that could make a simlar impact.
2. Curry much like Veron Gholston in the 08 draft is the best talent. Now im not saying the outcome will be the same, what im saying is a killer combine does not equate to NFL sucess. I personal think that the chiefs need for young talent on the Oline is a much bigger concern than making are defense any younger. if anything are defense badley needs some veterns to direct the three round 1 picks, three round 2 picks, and third rounder that we already have on defense. Vrabel helps some but we still need more.
3. Haley is the Coach pretty much proves my point for me. Scott Pioli knows more than anyone how important it is to keep your franchise QB on the field. it can make you go from a near perfect season to a 11-5 season, both of which i would gladly except. Protect your investment, and give guys like Larry Johnson a actual chance to suceed
4. trading down isnt as easy as you put it. if Matt Staford is gone, so are the chiefs hopes of trading down.
5.the chiefs are paying Bradon Albert Number 15 money not top 5 like you want to believe. The last problem the chiefs have right now are money problems. by the way why spend top dolar on MLB this year when you know you have to resign your other star LB Derick Johnson?
6. mick crabtree a perfect complement to D-Bowe? there basicly the same players. with those 2 guys out there Matt Cassel wont know what the hell is going on because they both dont know how to run routes
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just to play devil's advocate...
1. Rothlesburger and the offense won the super bowl for the Steelers with a last minute drive, not the defense.
2. Pretty much the same thing was said about Dorsey last year, and he did pretty much nothing besides get stoned at the line ever down.
3. Play to your strengths like the Colts do with Payton Manning. You have Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison already? We’ll take a wide reciever in the first thank you very much.
by Chiefwanka on Mar 31, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get why you and many others bag on Dorsey's rookie year...
he had a great year for a DT. Compare his rookie season to that of other high profile DT’s (I’ve done it on here too many times to dig up the stats again) and you should be optimistic about his future in KC.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dorsey
was the #1 player in last year’s draft, not Gholston.
Dorsey had a SOLID rookie year, but still has lots of room to get better… let’s just hope this coaching staff knows how to use him
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if thats all you got to complain about...
than i must of done a killer job. There both the number 1 projected linebacker for there respected draft class, and off of pure talent which is what we are talking about… Gholston had the most of it, just ask Mel Kipper Jr.
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on man
their completely different players. If anything Curry is a Jarred Mayo, I wonder how that turned out?
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jerod mayo was pick 30 not 3 and...
i compared D-Bowe and Crabtree, show me where im wrong
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mayo
If the Chiefs got the type of player at #3 that the Pats got with Mayo, I think they’d be happy
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ask Pioli or Haley that question
they’d be happy
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah ill ask them
ask anyone with a brain whats harder to find, a all pro level LT or a possible pro bowl MLB. How many franchise LT hit the FA market this year compared to LB’s
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
youre right
I wouldnt be satisfied with Rookie of the year either
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
still theres a big difference between guarented money for a 3 and a 10
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so?
like right tackle deserves more money. Name one Right Tackle that carried his team to the superbowl since we have to prove a MLB that did. You didnt even know when Jared Mayo was drafted, then you say the chiefs wouldnt be satisfied with the defensive rookie of the year if we drafted him at 3. youre not making any sense
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LT!!!
all guys have no decent arguements. im sure i didnt know when another team drafted last year, i sincerly apoligize to you and anyone i might of offended
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have a Left Tackle already
Branden Albert only allow 5.5 sacks last year, whats the point of moving a great player like that when the best player in the draft will just be sitting there waiting for us. Also, you obviously know nothing about Aaron Curry, since he was the butkus award winner for best Linebacker last year. He had 4 ints, the taken back for touchdowns his junior year. He’s a major stud and higher rated that Jared Mayo, Patrick Willis and any other LB in the last 5 years
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also have a new shinny QB that needs to be protected.
Thats the beauty with trading out of this pick. We can drop down, scoop up the best middle LB in the draft in Rey Rey, and still scoop up a solid interior lineman.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn skippy
Sign me up for Rey and another linemean…
but, it’ll be tough to pull off
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rey mualuga blows
Id rather forfeit the pick. No offense but he is the most overhyped player in the draft. he ran a 4.8 for god sakes
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Gohlston blew up the combine...
big deal what a guy does in his undies. He tore up the best conference in football for 4 years.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
the Pac 10? thats possibly the weakest conference in college football.
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were those BCS bowls?
no because Oregon State will never be going to one as long as the SEC and the Big 12 is still around. Cal? Oregon? they would be doormats in the Big 12 or the SEC
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rose Bowl isn't a BCS bowl now?
Oregon fucked up Okie State.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
USC is always in the BCS, I wasnt talking about them
and oklahoma state was the only quality team the Pac 10 played in all their bowl games
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BYU was a two loss team before my Arizona Wildcats beat the shit out of them.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw Shit somebody started it now!
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check Home
Cutler to be traded By Owner of Donks
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, if you want to argue...
1) Overpaying for a MLB? Curry can play inside or out, is widely considered the most complete LB in the draft, and the best overall player in the draft. He’s getting consideration at the #1 pick… so if the Chiefs get him at #3… it’s not overpaying. It’s getting the best player in the draft at a position of need.
2) The Chiefs do need more young talent on the O line… but no one can argue that defense wasn’t the biggest weakness on the team last year, namely the LB core… their biggest problem was tackling, which Curry is known to be among the most sure tacklers to come out of the draft in years.
3) It’d take more than a RT to let LJ succeed this year… namely bail money and a better attitude.
4) trading down will be difficult, though I’d love to see it… all the more reason the Chiefs should take the BPA at a PON… CURRY
5) Salary cap isn’t an issue, you’re right on that one… I don’t think either DJ or BA’s contract will affect the pick.
6) I agree with you on this one… I’d rather see a Maclin or Harvin than a Crabtree… though all 3 would be a reach at #3
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he would play MLB for the chiefs so???
you have no points so thats all you get
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no points?
you only responded to that one… and you don’t know that he wouldn’t play OLB….
DJ could move inside, or Vrabel
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
either way
Curry is the best defensive player available at #3, and the Chiefs need help at LB
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gem LB's are easier to find than...
gem linemen
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah lets move the better OLB inside and the better ILB outside
actually Curry probly better outside then in but you get my point. where are these other points you speak of?
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
was Defense or Offense the biggest problem for the Chiefs last year?
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both, we have zero second half offense.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
a more consistant running game and a 3rd down receiver would have helped.
I do think they should try and trade down, AND take OL help in this draft… but if Curry is there, and they can’t make a trade… he IS the pick.
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you there...
I think they make every effort to get out of this pick. If we can’t get out I think they take Curry and go to the O-line well twice with their remaining picks.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does curry change anything?
im gonna go throw the football around for awhile so please leave me alone for alittle bit
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah theres no piont in neglecting your stregth
thats what Herm did and it made offense go from one of the best to one of the worst and than the chiefs just sucked on both sides of the ball
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post...
Seems like everyday someone is telling us that we NEED Curry. Its refreshing to see someone actually form and defend their stance rather than regurgitate the same “we NEED Curry,” shtick.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if he believes in what hes saying so much...
why isnt he defending any of it?
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both sides have valid points..
Defense is a necessity, but one linebacker doesnt guarantee you success. Curry has been described as a Urlacher or R. Lewis type talent, but have either of them really pushed there teams into the Super Bowl. Naw, its a chemistry of a bunch of good players. We cant fool ourselves with the ol’ gridiron football of the past. Points wins games,(with the exception of Pittsburg) look at the Pats, Cowboys, Giants and even the late Arizona Cardinals. They’ll put 40 burger on the scoreboard in a minute if you dont come to play. Draft day, will be exciting. Alot of analyst are saying the Chiefs will set the tone of the draft. Be prepared for the emotions go up and down, and Pioli isnt gonna leak information throughout the entire thing…..lol. Gotta love it. …“THE RIGHT 53”, where are the T-shirts???? somebody got to get on that.
by ChiefsNation on Mar 31, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
can you specify the valid points he made for me...
outside of defense wins championships, i couldnt find any
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with him when he says...
that Haley can make an average offense look better.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhh are you serious?
Ray Lewis has the same amount of rings as Peyton Manning. He won one with trent dilfer at QB. I think that should tell you how much impact he had. As for Brian Urlacher, he made it to the superbowl without a QB also.
by DBOWESHOW on Mar 31, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry or Monroe?
To be serious, I am cool either way. Both would be very good additions to a team in need of their services. Cant we get both?
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree
I respect your opinions on KC, but you said points win games. Look at the teams you mentioned…the Cowboys have won nothing, the Giants won on the strength of their defense, the Pats always won on the strength of their defense. The year they went undefeated in the reg. season they were an offensive team…and they lost…to a defensive team. Same for Arizona, they lost to a defensive team. You need quality offense, but you need a better defense.
by ChiefsFan88 on Mar 31, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It would seem that to to get better the Chiefs
need Curry and a DE/OLB
or
need Monroe and a Center
and both aren’t possible
Apparently this is not going to be a quick fix and the more picks the better.
UNLESS, Pioli starts targeting some FA’s that will help, OR
he is planning to scour the Preseason Waiver/Cut lists to grab those Vets or UDFA’s that don’t make it
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
they need all 4… I think they can probably get them all in the draft, just have to draft smart, especially in the 2nd half of the draft.
Speaking of FA… any idea why the Chiefs wouldn’t look at Cato June?
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Tampa 2 sucks. It doesnt work w/o stellar line play.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
the Tampa 2 sucks… but couldn’t June potentially play in another system?
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I started a new post for this discussion
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell are you "+1"ing ?
dont go to the new post, theres really nothing of substance there
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't be a douche
make your case for who they should pick up
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
finally someone with that think a little
im not trying to kill anyones hopes, im jusy positive that Curry will not be a KC chief next year
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Not positive Curry won't be a Chief
I have no idea what Pioli will do. Just math says you are not going to find 4 players with 6 picks superior to what we have already
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a challenge
to find 4 starters in 6 picks…
but, how many starters did the Chiefs get with their picks last year?
by stagdsp on Mar 31, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One superbowl.......are you serious?
I like Curry and i hope we draft him at #3, but dont think that he will single handedly walk us the the big game. Crabtree (and iam not sayin draft him) but has been refered to a Michael Irvin type player. Tough, tough decisions, and iam glad i dont have to make them. I am just a fan like you that has waited along time for a serious contender. Iam not interested in one super bowl, i want to see a dynasty.
by ChiefsNation on Mar 31, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just pointing this out
Crabtree (and iam not sayin draft him) but has been refered to a Michael Irvin type player
You mean the kind of player that would stab a teammate in the neck with a pair of sissors for refusing to give up his place in the haircut line? (If you haven’t read it pick up a copy of “Boys Will Be Boys” by Jeff Pearlman)
Or do you mean the kind of guy that would support Adam Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson, and T.O. publically in the media no matter how many times they break the law and cause locker room disasters?
I realize you were refering to on the field play, but Michael Irvin is not somone I would ever want to be compared to.
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by Texas Chief on Apr 1, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ONLY WAY to make it work is to find a trade partner...
If Detroit takes Stafford (and they will) it will be difficult to trade down.
I am starting to wonder if we shouldnt take Stafford if he is there at #3. I know we don’t need a QB but, if the kid is as good as everyone is saying, he is gonna be a freak. We can still use him to negotiate if we take him at #3.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Odds are...
there are plenty of teams that are in love with Curry.
by HIV 2 Elway on Mar 31, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. But we might get more value out of Stafford.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those teams you speak of are
have #1 picks outside the top 5
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jets are my trade partner who I really think would trade if Stafford is still hanging out.
They need a QB bad.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stafford might not be #1 now :)
This flame war was probably expected by AP. I didn’t like it. It looked like the Civil War to me.
We all have who we are hoping for and you guys have numbers to back it up. Agree to Disagree and let all of us see what happens:)
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldnt Stafford be #1 now?
His stock is higher now than ever.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we can all agree to trade down from the third pick
ecpesscially if detriot goes tackle and were stuck with a garbage player like Aaron Curry.
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
-1
Aaron Curry might not be the right player but not a garbage player. He’s supposedly the safest pick.
by Red and Gold on Mar 31, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was obviously a joke
trading down would be stupid.
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, missed the sarcasm there.
I am all about trading out of the third pick. We just have to find the right trade partner. This whole Cutler thing may make it a little more difficult. I can see Detroit trading the #1 pick for Cutler, Denver taking Stafford (scary) and we will have to find a team that has a hard on for Curry. Curry is going to be the man but, we need to find a way to get back into rd 2.
TG for a 3rd anyone?
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 31, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of the unhappy threesome Waters would make most sense to trade
Maybe easiest to replace, We might not have to replace Gonzalez but the production hit.
Johnson would garner least and provide least in return.
Trading a package of 3-7 picks would only move us into back of 2nd Rd.
The # 3 has most value depending on the MAN with the cards.
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AP can we burn this post
The lack of news is killin us
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol
I’ve been saying this kind of thing for a couple of days now. My favorite was the 200+ comments last night and this morning about the autographed mini-helmet. Hahaha.
Actually squarebender and dboweshow are a lot of fun. I had long ones with both of them in the last week and it was entertaining. Thanks fellas. You both bring it with force. Hope to see you both around when there’s actually good subject matter to debate. :)
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by Buck'O on Mar 31, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on the helmut that was so WTF, even though I would like to know Cassels' #
I just wish that the thing didn’t get so combative.
I actually come here for info and comedy not hand-to-hand.
I get enough of the other stuff on job and with family.
by Steve_Chiefs on Mar 31, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
if you check, i never start any problems. people just start to get flustered with me because im always right
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You haven't been UC'd yet :)
You guys are cool. You bring it a bit rough and that will bother some people. Like Steve_Chief here, you’ll hear about it from the fellas if they think it’s getting to disrespectful. But otherwise, you both state your case and you do what you can to back it up. That’s what it’s all about.
Having been there with both of you, I thought it was pretty funny watching the two of you go at it. Having Capt. Caveman join in would have completed the trifecta though. hehehe
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 31, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I should let it go, but here I go again
As I see it we have 4 holes to fill in our starting line ups. We need a C, RT, pass rushing OLB/DE(aka predator), and a run stuffing MLB. Those 4 positions are big fat glaring problems. Neither Curry or DJ are natural run stuffers. Could we play either of them there, yes, but what a waste of talent. Would Crabtree upgrade our WR, yes, but doesn’t fill one of the big fat glaring holes. Could we fill the RT by drafting Monroe and moving Albert over, yes, but you can get a good RT in rounds 2-4 so why use the first rounder to accomplish the same thing. For the love of all that’s holy people, we should trade down by any means possible. I don’t care if we don’t even come close to what the “chart” says we should get as long as we could get back into the 2nd round and maybe one other pick. Then we could draft players at the positions where we currently don’t have anyone worthy of starting. Do you really want Monty Beisel to be our run stuffer? How about Hali as our primary pass rusher again? I agree that if we can’t trade down we probably have to take Curry or Monroe, but if Pioli is half the GM we all think he is he will find a way to move down.
Ten sacks in a season! For crying out loud that's what I used to average per game using DT in Tecmo Bowl!
by KCporkchop on Mar 31, 2009 11:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Curry IS a natural run stuffer… that’s one of his main strengths.
"Positives: Strongly-built with long arms to keep himself off offensive linemen when playing against the run. Very smooth in pass drops, staying low in his backpedal and getting into depth at the proper angles. Good hands for the interception, and can break up passes using his hands or a big hit over the middle. Plays the nine-technique very well, ripping off the tackle’s block and getting to the ballcarrier on inside and outside runs. Also closes on the ball quickly when playing in the stack. Able to shed blocks and go through backs on blitzes. Will pop the fullback and create a pile to stuff inside runs. Shows good awareness on misdirection, quickly diagnosing plays and affecting the success of the play. Gets a lot of attention from opponents on special teams because of his size, speed and aggressiveness in kick return coverage. "
To play devil’s advocate, though… the Chiefs could fill this spot with Brinkley or Frantz Joseph (who I hadn’t heard of, but he sounds like a good fit at ILB in the 5th round…http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1125389)
I still believe a RT can come later in the draft….Lydon Murtha, 6th Round; Fenuki Tupou 4th Round, Sebastian Vollmer 4th Round
I guess the bottom line is that a servicable player for each position of need CAN be found later in the draft. The question is, at which position would you rather have a superstar?
by stagdsp on Apr 1, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im to tired to argue now
hit me up in like a week and then ill have time to explain to you why Monroe should be the pick
by squarebender on Mar 31, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am ok with Curry being the pick...we are in a can't miss position, i think...
…but using “Haley is an offensive minded coach” as a reason is a stretch I think.
by woodman212 on Apr 1, 2009 2:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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