Morning Update (Later Larry Edition)
by Chris Thorman on Mar 30, 2009 7:29 AM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs News
- I keep reading "updates" on the Chiefs' switch from River Falls, WI, to St. Joseph, MO, for their training camp site only to find out there is really no news at all. Life a bit slow in St. Joe perhaps?
- Arrowhead Addict is hoping for some big news this week regarding the Chiefs' disgruntled veterans.
- You've probably heard about players from other NFL teams not showing up to the voluntary mini-camps they're holding but you probably won't hear anything out of One Arrowhead Drive: "The media has already been warned they can only be in the media workroom. They cannot sit in the parking lot and count heads as they walk into the building."
- WPI: "Gonzalez, Waters and Johnson should take a step back and look at the big picture. This community, this team and these fans are among the best in the NFL and looking forward, the winning is really only a step or two away."
- Courtesy of KFFL, we find out that the Chiefs formally interviewed USC DT Fili Moala at the NFL Combine. We're also tracking the players the Chiefs are interested in.
Draft News
- B.J. Raji gets a tad worked up in his interview with Colin at Big Cat Country.
- It's probably not a bad idea to keep track of all of the top linebacker prospects in this year's draft: LB Larry English works out at Pro Day.
- Saint at Silver and Black Pride says WR Michael Crabtree has to be the Raiders first pick.
Other News
- The Brady Rule- forever screwing up Google searches for the Kansas City Chiefs by mentioning Bernard Pollard every time Tom Brady's name comes up.
- Here is one of the most dull, lazy attempts to debate the NFL possibly extending the season a couple of games. Note to newspaper writers: Please put in more effort than this guy and you'll survive.
- You wish you could live a life like Lou Saban did.
The big news this week for the Chiefs is that Larry Johnson and the team will meet on Wednesday to discuss recovering some of LJ's salary. It's almost a guarantee that Johnson wont' be back as a Chief next season and this salary grievance hearing is the beginning of that end.
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Unreal
The media has already been warned they can only be in the media workroom. They cannot sit in the parking lot and count heads as they walk into the building. The locker room will be off-limits and given the way Pioli has structured things during his time in control of the franchise, the team won’t be providing attendance figures.
Now that’s just ridiculous.
The locker room situation is fair enough, I suppose, but barring the press from the parking lot? Hate to break it to you, Mr. Pioli, but the press isn’t actually your enemy…they’re where your fans get info on their team. If you constantly refuse to provide info to the press (and, by extension, the fans) all that’s going to happen is that you’re going to alienate the fans and the press from their team, which will make your job harder in the long run.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 30, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Let me play devils advocate
This is very telling. I’m guessing there have been some innovative journalists trying to get statements/info from mgmt., in the parking lot. Pioli is just doing what he was bred to do from his NE days. This isn’t so much to benefit the players from being bombarded by the press as they enter the stadium, it’s more for mgmt. not being approached…but he’s not going to make a rule just for one group.
As far as the “press not being the enemy”, well that’s debatable and to be honest I disagree. I’d rather have no information than deal with “Rufus Dawes” type information or have a puppet like Bob Gretz spewing drek given to him by the GM, which we’ve had plenty of over the years, with nothing to show.
Had there been a statement about “fans” not approaching personnel, I’d have a beef with the ruling. Pioli could care less about making either the press or the fans happy in regards to information. It’s not his job to assist in helping the press. His mindset is that the only thing he owes to the fans is winning a championship. Regardless of what he states to the media, his legacy in his eyes (as well asthe fans/press’ eyes) will solely be dependant on how the team performs in regards to obtaining the Lamar Hunt and the Lombardi trophy.
We just need to accept that this org. is going to be run in a very similar fashion to NE. Would it make things better if there was plenty of information (like the past 20 years) and nothing to show for it? I don’t think so.
We all need to get used to the “Bellichick style of information”: Very little said, and what is said is scripted.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Mar 30, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont care about the press if these guys can get us to a Championship.
What do I need the press for, I have Arrowhead Pride. This where I get the most news anyway.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 30, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about the Championship part
I’m guessing that most people’s beef is that since there is so little informaiton, it’s also going to be reflected in AP. We’ll start having mostly rumors and Fanposts that have very little to do with anything specific.
It’ll be like the Pats. site, only better :-)
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Mar 30, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
took the words out my mouth i would rather speculate all day on this blog and be starved of news
if we are winning on sundays and in the playoffs contending every year . I could care less what gretz has to say and the other slap cocks in the press as long as we are winning i could care less.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 30, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Not Talking About "Dawes"
He was just a mouthpiece for the organization…he wasn’t “press” per se. Same with Gretz. I’m talking about writers who aren’t employed by the Chiefs.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 30, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're missing my point UC
First, mgmt. doesn’t care about the press. Their commitment is to winning championships and that’s it. Ensuring the employment of the press by conveying information isn’t on the same radar. Reporters can report based on their opinions on the field of battle, nothing more (as in NE).
Secondly, my point was that I’d rather have no information than reading Gretz or Dawes (as an example) or listening to Harry or KK or discussing drek based upon what they “think” they heard from their “inside sources”. That was gone as of the Pioli hiring. If anything, Pioli will give bad info internally to see who the deep throat is and 69 them.
KK’s Mortensonion moment came last week when he implied that there would be 16 road games due to the strike from his . That’s the “best” you’re going to get from the local media.
The culture here is going to change to the point that if there isn’t a audio/video tape of Pioli or Haley specifically stating something, than the reporter is FOS until proven otherwise.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Mar 30, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all about rumor control
If the press are barred from inside the locker room and all they can do is count cars in the parking lot, they may get a skewed idea of who is missing and make up reasons why. They might see for example that so and so’s car is not there and jump to an assumption without hearing perhaps an announcement in the locker room about so and so’s ill grandmother. So they print something and all of a sudden it gets out of hand.
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
by sir eccles on Mar 30, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Theres a picture of KC’s most beloved players. LJ and mister 69 himself.
by Haleystheman on Mar 30, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
St. Joseph
Not sure I like the “bit slow in S. Joe” connotation. As being born and raised there its not about life being slow. Its about the economy and finding some 25 million bucks for football when the city could use other improvements. I hope the Chiefs make it to MO West, but its going to be a hard pill to swallow for some. I know I will try as hard as I can to visit family and training camp if it transpires.
by blkmercman on Mar 30, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NOT unreal at all
The problem with the media is that they are willing to MAKE a story if they can not research one. Take KC enemy number one Jason Whitlock for example. Now, first I should say I think Whitlock’s writing is entertaining and sometimes insightful if not controversial. But when he starts CREATING stories such as the story about Brian Waters asking to be traded…. and by the way the details of the story have never been corroborated by any other source including Waters, then we can see the media does not have winning games as their chief objective. In fact these types of stories can reduce team moral and lower the trade value of team resources. Will that help the Chiefs become a winning team …..I don’t think so. So now lets just speculate that some player does not show up for voluntary workouts, if management is allowed to evaluate the situation and make a determination to trade out of the public eye then they will are more likely to get maximum trade value. The other scenario which you seem to be advocationg Mr. UNREAL….. istic, is one where the media and fan pressure are exerted as a result of dirty laundry in public view. This type of scenario can force management to trade a player under unfavorable conditions where trade value is not maximized …to the detriment of the teams future.
by BigRedCadillac on Mar 30, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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