Veteran free agent linebacker Clark Haggans will visit with the Chiefs on Wednesday.
Haggans, 32, spent eight years with the Steelers and last year with Arizona, where he worked with Todd Haley and Clancy Pendergast. He had a career-high nine sacks for the Steelers in 2005.
Another Cardinal guy.
almost 3 years ago
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Sooner
or later we’ve got to just let the Cardinal’s organization BE. Jeez.
home, of the....CHIEEEEEFS!
+1
I don’t want to be the mediocre team with a high powered offense and terrible defense that backs it’s way into the super bowl.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Instead
we can be a terrible team with a medium powered offense and a terrible defense that walks it’s way into last place in the division.
Just kidding. I agree with you, I just think we should give it at least a season before we judge these moves.
And Pioli and Haley
really need to look at FA that they haven’t worked with before in the past. There are better players out there.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Not necessarily
And they’re comfortable with these guys. It’s not like they’re going to sign Haggans to a 4 year deal. He could be a capable filler this season. I don’t see anyone else out there that’s head and shoulders better than him.
pioli actually does walk on water
but ya we need to jump on some studs not old ass duds
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true, I would love Olshansky
but at linebacker, hes a decent pickup for the 3-4. We’re building a linebacker core. The LBs could look like Vrabel-Curry-DJ-Haggans next year. we cant fill every need by the draft. I think we take Curry high this year. Then next year bump Haggans out and plug in another high LB draft pick. Then 2 years from now send Vrabel packing and plug in the 4th and final piece.
we need lineman and we need
line backers we need it all on d right now
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and by the way
get ready for more trades im just feeling a major shake up we will get some more picks or make big moves calling it.
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I think you're right.
IF he can get out of the #3 pick and move down a few spots to pick up a 2nd rounder, he’ll do it in a heartbeat. And IF he can do that, I actually think he might move down again to pick up more picks. I have a feeling that draft day is going to be crazy, and very unpredictable. I’d love to have Curry, but I really think there’s a good chance we’ll move down — IF we can find someone to swap with.
Well everyone on nfl network says we are losing tony so get out your pampers cuz
kc is going to crap its pants when that goes down.
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everyone on the nfl network is wrong
I can’t think of a team who would trade us draft pick so high that it would be worth more to us than keeping Tony…thus, I think he will stay.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Tony stays
Tony was looking for the Chiefs to make changes which would make them a winner. The latest two additions from the Pats should go a long ways toward proving to him that they are on the right track.
Why?
Why would you bring in a new franchise quarterback and then ship off his best weapon? How is that a recipe for success?
I agree.
We wont be able to get anything near the value that we would need to replace Tony. He isn’t going anywhere.
Don't they always say
that a good receiving HB or TE is a QB’s best friend?
So wouldn’t the best receiving TE ever be good for a young QB?
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Im pretty sure that Haley
.will want Tony on this team. Hes worth to much to trade him for a pick. Id be very suprised if TG is traded.
I fully agree.
Tony is too good as a weapon and as a motivator/leader/heart of the team to ship off. And to be honest I don’t see anyone giving us what we would need to compensate us for that loss. We keep him and I’m all for it.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 3, 2009 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
cuz tony is constantly bitching we are building those are words he does not want to hear
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We haven't been acting like a rebuilding team
Trading for veterans, looking at veteran FA’s.
I think he’ll be happy to be here, why wouldn’t he, things are looking up!
I don’t blame TG for what happened last year, he felt he was lied to, and he probably was, but ist a new day, bro.
Maybe
just maybe, Pioli and Haley think that having a few key veterans used to playing in a 3-4 would make the transition to that defense a little smoother…
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
Not to mention
These guys aren’t going to command a lot of money.
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
What about
Ray Lewis and Jason Taylor the both have played in the 3-4 and the are still bad asses!!!
by A true chiefs fan on Mar 3, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
And we may get Haggans for
3 years $24.00
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
But
He could bring the emotinoal energy and leadership this team need. Watching sound bits of him makes me want to play!!!
by A true chiefs fan on Mar 3, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with Prime
I’d offer two years $16 guaranteed to see if he’d bite
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Whatever
it takes to get Lewis or Taylor
by A true chiefs fan on Mar 3, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
I originally wanted to pass on Lewis and Taylor
Then I realized how much money we had to spend, and am a little more open to it.
I think Taylor’s a guy with just one year left, while Lewis may have 3. So I’d lean towards Lewis, but the financial commitment will need to be greater. That said, we NEED to start having a financial commitment this offseason, so I don’t have a big issue with it.
This is of course, secondary to getting a legit 3-4 DE, which at this point is down to Igor, and really, no one else.
That is a good point
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
Amazing...
Everyone finds something to bitch about. They are bringing in experienced proven 3-4 guys who are used to winning. What is wrong with that?
AFC West Champs in 2009? Mayyybee.
Exactly
The Extreme youth movement is coming to a close, and it is know time to mix in some guys who know how to play the game
Unlike GMDM I refuse to trade my EL CD avatar until Jacobs proves his worth.
Holy Shit!!!...Peterson resigned...Am I dead?...Is This Heaven?
by RoyalsFanStuckInCardsLand on Mar 3, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
the only thing im bitching about is
igor is at home sleepin in when he needs to be in kc holding up a jersey
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true and i love those type of magic tricks
but i still cant sleep at night unless i know we signed that guy we need to lock him up.
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If Pioli's as good as everyone's saying he is.
We probably signed him at 12:01am Friday, traded him to Tampa for their second and fourth round picks, then Tampa traded him to Washington who cut him because he put them over the salary cap when they signed Haynesworth and then we picked him up for vet. minimum off waivers.
We’re just waiting to announce anything until after he’s started four games for us.
sex
you crack me up. we do need igor and the chargers are stupid enough to let him go. also word here is that cromrite is on the way out and drayton florence is on the way in.
by kcfaninsandiego on Mar 3, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda makes me wonder if we are getting a message on whom we plan to draft?
Nothing like a having a seasoned Veteran to mentor a rookie at his position?
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Haggans + Vrabel
would give us two 3-4 OLB’s who played in two different 3-4 systems for two very good 3-4 defenses (Pitt and NE)…nice tutors for Aaron Curry and DJ (who could be our eventual OLB’s)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
No one is saying this now
But I think Curry would end up being and ILB in a 3-4.
He was a bubble Sam 4-3 LB, which translates a lot better to ILB in a 3-4 than OLB.
I think he could probably play either, but he’s not an edge blitzing type of LB, not that he can’t do it, but its not his specialty.
This is ok, b/c we need LB’s across the board, but everyone should realize this when penciling in your 3-4 mock Chiefs defense.
agreed
we are bringing in experienced guys who know our system. a perfect way to mentor a guy like curry
Primetime, I think you are on the right track
Guys like Vrabel and Haggans would not be long term solutions. Anybody out there remember how sucessful our defense was last year? These guys would be an instant improvement to help us be better now, and in the next couple of years maybe we find or draft the next James Harrison?
This just in
Otto graham was seen in Loch Lloyd removing a For Sale sign and shaking a relator’s hand.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Barry owns the grocery store that McGraw works in
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
hahahahh tooo good
i hear oj is getting released and is our new running back
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Yeah
OJ is tutoring LJ on how to be a real crook and get away with it… once.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 3, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
i wonder if pioli and his god father ways can pull that off
a trade for lj and oj . lj goes to jail where he needs to be and oj with us since we are going on a retiment spending spree
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Actually ...
Compared to most of the guys we’re bringing in, wouldn’t picking up OJ almost signal a return to the ‘Youth Movement’ … ?
One thing to remember ...
If we are really moving to 3-4, then the Pat Thomases and Rocky Boiman’s become even more useless to us than they already were. Picking up Vrabel and Haggans would immediately bring proven 3-4 guys to mentor youngs guys and to rotate in where needed. Neither of them are young, but at least they’re both proven vets that represent an upgrade over our other current LBs. They’re not long-term solutions, but they would help fill out a core of LBs for now.
and give us time to develop some new guys for their departure
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Why so down on Boiman and Thomas?
They weren’t the best, but sure did put in the effort. I think both would make very capable backups and would be great on Special Teams. I also like their age and think they are young enough to learn from Vrabel and be better than a 5th rd rookie.
So drafting LB's and grabbing Draft FA LB's would be paramount to TEAM.
We need these kinda guys to improve our special teams too.
ya right cut
no way he is a free agent and hes a beast trust me i see him every year and he makes every tackle
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he is russian hardcore russian
and he is a mommas boy big time but who cares the guys an animal on the field
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exactly let me tell you i go to every game in san diego when the chiefs come to town
and the entire place is screaming that guys name it just gives me chills i mean the guy tackles like crazy and even if he doest make the tackle the announcer just screams his name cuz everyone goes nasty IIIIIIGGGGOOOOORRR OOOOSSSSHHHHAANNNKYYYY . ITS WILD. AND YES I AM SCREAMING
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i have been wanting that guy on our team for a while now
and i have a rule of thumb dont ever buy a jersey unless its a chief hall of famer but that guy would be the exception .
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i actually heard his wife is super hot i dont know if she is russian
but im sure he is pulling mad chicks in san diego. I went to a marine base for my cousins graduation in san diego and these two smokin chicks were in the stand watching the grad and all they were talking about was igor oshanskys house i guess he had some type of party at his house they were saying nothing but hot chicks so i know he is pulling hotties or atleast his buddys are.
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helll ya
but in kc we get igor and rogers we are in bizz really quick they both are young and good
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and if you are going to go 3-4
we need to start getting the guys cuz those guys are the hardest to find as we stand now i dont think we have the guys to fill those holes .
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the chargers
are more interested in their cap number than keeping good players like igor. AJ Smith is related to King Carl and is doing to the chargers what carl did his last 10 years.
ya thats for sure their owner blows balls he is blowing it
he got lucky by having marty make some picks and really had it made but once that guy left so did the teams heart
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Looking at these free agents coming in...
I’m wondering if Pioli and Haley’s initial assessment of the team is that there is some talent in a few of these younger guys (particularly on defense) and they just need to be surrounded by some vets who’ve played in some championship games to bring out the best in them?
and i bet pioli
uses the user name chief ho to get all his updates and see what the fans want. if your reading scott aka chief ho lock up igor and make moves .
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What about Derrick Brooks?
He would be nice to have around. Anyone Piloi adds to this team will be an upgrade to what we had regardless of age.
Yep
Anyone Piloi adds to this team will be an upgrade to what we had regardless of age.
Pretty much. That’s why I look at the free agent and the Chiefs current player and decide which is the upgrade – isn’t that all that really matters?
For sure
I am sure Piloi looks at it the same way. Ok we have this guy now and what if we signed that guy….He said himself he is not looking for individual talent. He wants to build a team. Just becaise someone he signs it not a pro bowler or young and pretty does not mean they wont fit the mold that Haley and Pioli are building.
I'm a huge Derrick Brooks fan
But from the looks of these vets that we’re bringing in on D, they are 3-4 guys, that will probably help mentor the kids as we transition to a new defense.
Brooks is a 4-3 guy…we’ll see. Would he be an improvement, yeah, but I’m guessing vets that we bring in will be those comfortable in the 3-4.
Thats highly unfortunate
about what happened to them. Even though Cooper was a Raider, I’d never wish anything like that on them.
ya i hate the raider with a passion
very sad news i hope they atleast caught something
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mcdonald chicken nuggets
nothing beats those bad boys for lunch damn they are good
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"Bah" On This Move
Haggans had one stinking sack last year and didn’t even get 20 tackles playing for a terrible defense. His sacks have declined every year since 2005 and his tackles have declined the last two years and he got hurt last year. This is a player getting close to the end of his career…and he hasn’t been particularly effective the last two years.
I’d rather the Chiefs gave the playing time to Boiman.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
Boiman??
Haggans was hurt last year, you have to keep that in mind.
I don’t think we’d be signing him to be a starter, more as a situational pass-rusher. He’d be another guy that could help us transition to a 3-4 in the same way Vrabel will. In fact, in another post thats what I put, I think these guys essentially combine to play one postion.
They play different positions, so we don’t really need to compare Boiman.
We have plenty of guys on the roster that will need to be purged before next season, and to do that, we’re going to have to get legit NFL bodies in there to fill those spots. Last years roster was ridiculous, with all the off the street guys making the minimum.
Gatewood, Dacus, Gilberry, Studebaker
How bout Haggans over these clowns?
I do agree with your #1 prediction for 2009.
Haggans and Engram
The conspirist in me wonders if these are smoke screens on other visits? I mean why else bring Engram in, when the phone would have worked just fine.
*conspirist may or may not be a word, but I hope you get what I mean :)
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"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
Well we know Igor is in Packerland.
Well the rest of your post….
Just made me forget my point.
What would WR LB be hiding?
A visit from a Kicker?
Maslowski in Berlin, ROMEO
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THANKS Lanier, I gotto go Fanpost….
Our defense will be so much better if..
We go after mike peterson from the jags, then get shaun rogers(this guy is a monster) in a trade with LJ, and then get curry in the draft. Our defense will be twice as good.
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