Chiefs, Larry Johnson to Meet Over Contract
by Joel Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 5:06 PM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs running back Larry Johnson and his agent, Peter Schaeffer, will meet with the team next week regarding $3.75 million of guaranteed money.
Per Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star:
The Chiefs claim the one-game suspension he received from the NFL last year for violating the league's personal-conduct policy is a breach of his contract and frees them from having to pay the guaranteed money.
A source close to the situation told Teicher that should the Chiefs win the grievance and thereby releasing them of any obligation to pay him the balance of the guaranteed money, they'll likely release him.
The source suggests that the Chiefs wouldn't go through the trouble of a grievance hearing if they intended to keep him.
From my view, the outcome of the hearing may not matter. If the Chiefs are going through the trouble of freeing themselves of the obligation of paying him, then they likely want him gone regardless.
When taken in context with the salary cap and the Chiefs $25-30 million left in salary cap room, $3.75 million to release a guy who apparently doesn't fit with the program is money well spent.
What will be interesting is to see if Johnson shows for the start of the Chiefs voluntary offseason program on Monday. Schaeffer says he'll be there.
"Right now Larry's focus is preparing for the upcoming NFL season," Schaffer said. "He's a member of the Kansas City Chiefs, so he's doing everything in his power to help the Chiefs win the Super Bowl. So he will be there."
Looks like next week will finally begin to shed some light on the Chiefs' plans for Larry Johnson.
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There Should Be A Third Answer
“Depends On How The Grievance Goes”
If the Chiefs can overturn the $3.5 million guaranteed and negate the contract, Johnson’s out the door within a week. Nobody’s going to put up with a bitchy, aging overpaid RB who’s also a team cancer if they don’t have to. Especially one who’s possibly facing suspension and is a prime candidate to commit more of the same errors.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even So
It’s obvious the Chiefs would likely want him gone before 2009. I don’t think the $3.75 million would stop them.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If They Have To Take The Cap Hit
I suspect they’ll try to trade him.
If they don’t have to take the cap hit, I suspect they’ll cut him immediately.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd suspect that Pioli knows exactly what his value is right now
And it’s probably nothing. Don’t you think LJ’s name came up at the owners meetings? I don’t think anyone’s interested in giving up a draft pick or another player for him.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody wants him
because they know he’s on thin ice in KC and why overpay for someone who’s on the brink of being cut. That said, if and when LJ’s cut he will have a line of suitors waiting for him. I suspect he’ll sign a new contract with the quickness
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
Let him be some other team’s headache.
Oh shit…I need to get to my fantasy league page and grab Jamaal Charles off waivers.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For being a headache
he’s a minor one to have in the grand view of things. For instance, I love Marshawn Lynch but hit-and-run’s and gun possession are slightly more serious offenses then spitting drinks and being a bitch
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Marshawn
a) Misdemeanor hit-and-run…that’s all the cops chose to charge him with. So let’s not go pretending he intentionally drove over a family of six, laughing as he drove off. Same kind of diversion just about any of us would get.
b) Gun possession + bullshit search = non-crime. The cops in Culver City admitted that their reason for searching his car was that they recognized him as an NFL running back. In other words, they had zero probable cause to be searching that vehicle. All he was doing was sitting in a parked car, which isn’t a crime in any state…even if you’re famous. And I don’t buy that “scent of marijuana” story for a second…because the cops didn’t charge him with drug possession, which is standard if they find any drugs in the vehicle, but not if “scent of marijuana” is a bogus boilerplate used to retroactively justifiy an illegal search.
Marshawn Lynch may have made a few bad choices, but he never assaulted anyone in a bar and never threatened to kill anyone…I’ll take him over Larry Johnson any day of the week.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dont get in too big of a hurry.
Charles is just a change of pace guy. He is good at some things but, he will never be our featured back.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 27, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch him land in Philadelphia or Jacksonville
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Mar 27, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
I hope he lands in Philly, in front of the worst fans in America. I’ll say this for their fans…they hate half-assers even more than I do.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly fans...
Are proud of it too….
I read one comment by a Philly fan the other day: “He wouldn’t last a week here with us fans”
I wanted to rant at him about how they are HORRID fans…
by woodman212 on Mar 27, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson Wants To Go There
Let him!!! :) That would be awesomely ironic.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding haha
If he thinks it is hostile and unwelcoming here….just wait…what a moron…
by woodman212 on Mar 27, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They Might End Up Packaging Him With Tony Or Waters
If they decided to try trading him.
But I think if they can’t trade him, he’ll be gone anyway…cap hit or no cap hit.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli wont trade Waters
he realizes what means he to our offensive line. And like others have pointed out, Pioli is going to do everything he can to protect his investment in Cassel. Cutting Waters loose makes zero sense
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless He Can Get A Good Draft Pick For The Both Of Them
Waters isn’t young any more.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I don’t think there’s a trade market. At least not for a 29 year old RB who might be cut anyway.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops
Agreed on Waters not being traded.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's too good to cut
We won’t find a better RB in FA and being that we’re without a R2 pick, LJ is the Chiefs best option for 2009
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A RB Who Is Suspended
Is worth nothing to a team. And Johnson’s a “repeat offender”…the NFL reserved the right to give him more suspension time based on the outcome of this case, even though they suspended him for the one game.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is roger
pretty much just going off a feeling about suspending guys i say if the law makes you pay the price or penalty in life it should be no suspension from the nfl.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 27, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's Been Pretty Consistent
I’ve got no problem with how Goodell handles suspensions.
And the court of law has got nothing to do with the NFL suspensions. Court punishments are for legal infractions and NFL suspensions are about the NFL encouraging their employees to represent their business well in public…so they’re well within their rights to suspend or ban players who cast their business in a bad light. Same as any business you might work for is well within their rights to fire or suspend you for getting a DUI even if the court already gave you jail time.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, but LJ is worse than a suspended running back.
He’s a cancer. He’s self-absorbed and unprofessional. The reason Pioli is bringing guys like Vrabel and Goff in is because they are professionals — they will teach the younger players how to be a pro.
Larry is in it for Larry. He got his big paycheck, he’ll never amount to anything.
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Mar 28, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see that
But his talent is fairly replaceable. Not meant to be a knock on LJ or his game, just the nature of running backs.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Opps - hit reply too early
Wasn’t replaceable last year. I didn’t see any of Charles, Savage, or Smith making large gains last year and forseeably won’t find any other similar caliber talent doing any different.
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a very good O-line
When LJ was doing well, the Chiefs had a good O-line. Now it pretty much stinks, and short of Barry Sanders, most RBs are gonna struggle behind a weak line, you can’t judge the others when they have never had the advantage of a good line. With Charles, he needs good blockers to get him into the secondary where he is fast enough to do his damage.
by criticalmass on Mar 28, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he was actually a good running back last year
…when he was playing. Trade him if you can, I wouldnt cut him. Haley will straighten him out.
by SayHeyWerd on Mar 27, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry would have
easily eclipsed 1,000 yds had he not been suspended. I know he can produce the same next year which undoubtedly he’ll be doing with an improved offensive line. It’s one thing to write him off because he can’t produce anymore, but its another thing to write him off because of behavior. The latter can be corrected whereas the former cannot
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would've, Could've, Should've
Point is that Johnson didn’t eclipse 1,000 yards, for reasons entirely in his control. That’s worse than him being injured…that’s him choosing not to help his team.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The most important ability is avail-ability
if you’re not available, no other ability matters.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Next on the need list: linebacker, and both lines
by Bleedingredandgold on Mar 28, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So very true.
Injuries are just injuries, unfortunate but uncontrollable. Self inflicted problems that lead to time off the field are a detriment that could easily be prevented by simply not being a total jerk.
by criticalmass on Mar 28, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigtime...
If the guys in the front office really want to win. They will keep him.
I have commented on this several times. LJ is not going to be easily replaced. He is a damn good football player. With a beefed up o-line, he will be almost as good as he used to be.
Off the field problems or not, he is definitely our best option for this season. I don’t think they will cut him.
If they get a decent trade offer, they may release him but, as for cutting him, no way.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 27, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say
we whipe the slate clean on a new watch (Pioli’s) and give Tony, Waters, and LJ a one year trial run with the new management. If they don’t cut it(which the only one questionable is LJ), then they’re gone in 2010
by KansasCityShuffle on Mar 27, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say
He has had multiple chances already. He is lucky that they lumped both of these together as one consequence. He needs to play in GB where there is no night life. He can’t turn his life around with out a change of scenery and friends. So I say “goodbye”.
by TonyG88 on Mar 27, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I said no, but..
I should have said yes. I think he will be released, but not next week.
by saskwatch on Mar 27, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
larry could be
good but he gives a weak effort. If he came back with a new start and sold pioli then maybe he could return as some value for us but if he continues to be a cancer no need in keeping him.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 27, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think...
That since one of the major road blocks to a possible trade is his contract, they may be trying to lower the value and the impact of his contract so they CAN trade him.
Anyone else think this grievance makes a TRADE more likely?
by woodman212 on Mar 27, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that's what I was thinking
he may be restructuring his contract to become more tradeable
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Mar 27, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know i would kill to be in the front office to know what the major plan is
for this team . I want to hear pioli wheel and deal.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 27, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pioli will not keep LJ,
not with the investment in Cassel. How many times have our qb’s been hit because he refuses to block? Hell rookie rbs came in, and blocked better.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Mar 27, 2009 6:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Charles blocked like a champ
He had a few missed assignments early on. I believe he whiffed on the hit that killed Croyle the 1st time (New England – Adalius Thomas I believe – sprained vagina). But overall I thought he was a great blocker last year. He was head and shoulders above LJ in that category. He absolutely deserved to be our 3rd down back last year.
Priest Holmes was also a great blocker. Those two have a lot in common.
I like Charles to get a shot at the starting spot next year – at least to get the most carries/touches/plays
by Ochophosphate on Mar 28, 2009 4:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep Priest, and Jamaal
Both Texas runningbacks, I remember in an interview Jamaal talked about how the coaches preached about blocking, that was one of the best ways to make it in the league. Once they put together a solid o-line, runningbacks will be much easier to come by.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Mar 28, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charles is not ready to start
until he can control his fumbling. Two games last year: Bills and Bucs. His two untimely fumbles switched the momentum and the lead. He has potential but if he wants to start he has to get that under control.
by Ilamuku on Mar 29, 2009 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good solid point eric allen
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 27, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kolby Smith Sucks
2.9 yards per carry last year…that’s worse than replacement-level production. I want Johnson gone, but if Kolby Smith is all we’ve got to replace him the running game is in trouble.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont believe in kolby either
he had one good game against the raiders but who doest have a good game against the raiders.
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 27, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK
he is not a superstar, but he has potential. He picks up the pass block. Most of his carries were against the Titans and Jets. Titans were hard to run against. Jets had a decent run defense with Kris Jenkins in the middle. Had a good game against Tampa Bay before getting hurt. Yeah his stats suck, but don’t compare him to replacement level production.
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by Major Tom on Mar 27, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont even say Jamaal Charles is the answer
He was as durable as Brodie. He hurt his ankle it seemed like every other carry
.
by Major Tom on Mar 27, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With a good o-line
a mediocre runningback will have good stats, and production, as long as they are into it mentally, and put team first.
Now hopefully this team is fun to watch again! Thanks Scott, Clark!!
by Eric Allen on Mar 27, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If The Chiefs Dump Johnson
I’m not at all worried that they won’t find a bigger back to split carries with Charles for less than half of what we’d pay Johnson.
I am concerned that Haley will be dumb enough to let Maurice Carthon coach him, however.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
It takes a highly talented guy to be what have been used to in our featured backs. Priest and LJ were both VERY special football players. I am not saying LJ is as good as the Priest but, he is better than most of the RBs in the NFL. If the Chiefs restructure his contract to trade him, teams will be lining up to get him & some team is going to get a damn good football player. Even in a shitty year, he averaged YPC. That’s w/o a decent line.
I still think we should keep him.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Mar 27, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with that statement
Great running backs are hard to find.
Good running backs are not so hard to find.
Mediocre running backs are a dime a dozen.
A Great O line can make a mediocre RB look great.
A Good O line can make a madiocre RB look good.
Before Priest (a complete back that could block, catch, run routes, and run) we managed just fine with a great O line and severely declining yet still firmly mediocre to good Marcas Allen. He was past his prime with something to prove (kinda like the Bus in his superbowl year) but he was a long way away from being “great” any more.
The offensive line makes the running back in all but the rarest of cases (Barry Sanders, Walter Peyton, Jim Brown, etc). Take the best RB in the game and put him behind a seive of a line and you end up with a mediocre RB.
LJ is a cancer. I personally don’t care if he is restructuring his contract to be more tradeable (which I suspect in the case) or if the Chiefs are truly trying to get out of the contract so we can dump him. I’d rather he be gone than in KC. We can pick up a mid to late round smasher to share the touches with Charles, or an older “past his prime” guy in trade or FA. As long as we fix the right side of the O line, and maybe grab a center in the draft the running game will be fine. Haley’s is going to run a pass happy offense if history is any indicator. We’re looking for 80-120 yards a game combined on the ground from our RB’s during crunch time just to burn the clock. We only need enough of a run game to keep the defense honest if the pass game works like it should.
Good ridence to bad rubbish. Winning is important, but winning at the cost of character is not worth it to me.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Mar 27, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Winning Is What Matters
But Larry Johnson doesn’t even help the Chiefs do that any more. He’s just a whiny overpaid ass who’s played for two rotten teams the last two years. And if the Chiefs aren’t winning with him in the lineup, he’s not worth keeping around…especially at his current salary.
Other than that, I agree with everything you said.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brings up a very solid point.
LJ is going to whine even more if he’s not getting 20 to 24 carries in most games. With this expected pass happy offense, he would be even more of a cancer than he is already which would likely lead to some more serious misconduct issues. If Herm saw fit to suspend him for a game, imagine what no nonsense Haley would do? We’d be without a RB for some games anyway, might as well dump him. So he may go somewhere else and be successful, but that does not mean that success would have been duplicated had he stayed with KC.
by criticalmass on Mar 28, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man it's boring
I hate this time of year. Jayhawks are out and basebore sucks.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 27, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Royals Are Going To Be Mediocre
I hated their move of grabbing Mike Jacobs. Horrible acquisition. You’ve got a team of hitters who have a problem getting on base and your solution is to add a guy with a sub-.300 OBP.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
your = Royals management. Not your = Buck’O. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 27, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is fucked up. LOL!
The Jayhawks lost and I’m sitting here hitting the F5 key like a lab rat waiting for a dose of morphine, hoping someone has something worthwhile to post. UCrawford is now so desperate that he’s willing to engage in conversation about basebore. Grand Master A is drinking beer and going from post to post making wise-cracks to himself and the rest of AP is out at the pub. I hate march!
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And my lament
is at the tail-end of Larry Johnson’t guilty plea for spitting on a girl.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 27, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Was At The Bar
But then the ice storm started in earnest so I had to head home and watched the Hawks choke the game away at home, alone. Now I’m going to play some more “Fallout 3” to dull my pain and then I’m heading off to bed.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 28, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a big one blowing through
I don’t miss that part of the midwest.
Say hey to the fellas in Vault 101 for me. :)
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 28, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Already Ditched Those Losers
Dogmeat and I are now executing massive numbers of super mutants in exceptionally bloody fashion.
I love my combat shotgun. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 28, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Likely :)
I left the building during the Big 12 Championship game once I decided that Missouri had it wrapped up. No desire whatsoever to root for them. :)
But I will say that Mike Anderson has built a hell of a team there…they’ve got an excellent defense and Carroll is just a great player. A lot of what he throws up looks like slop, but when it goes in as often as it does I don’t think you can call it slop.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 28, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if either of you did
i’d think there was something wrong with you. being born and raised in missouri, i know your animosity for the tigers is every bit as much as mine is for the jayhawks. that being said it sure makes for the best damn rivalry in collage sports.
by Leaf on Mar 28, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
K-State Is Our Rival
Missouri is our enemy. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 28, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Yes
It’s the best showdown every year, now in both basketball and football.
Too bad that our ADs decided to change the official name from “The Border War”, though. Friggin’ wusses. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
by UCrawford on Mar 28, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the final scene of "Buck'O's Lament"
The spirit of Quantrill pays for his egregious acts with the Jayhawks raising their fists in victory over the Tigers. Missouri fans hang their heads as Johnny Cash sings “Bury Me Not on the Lone Prairie” as the scene pans across One Arrowhead Drive.
When the man in black concludes his requiem, Jayhawks and Tigers come together with a stirring rendition of “The Star Spangled Banner” concluded with a unanimous “And the home of the…… CHIEFS!”
Roll credits…
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 28, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LJ and our other RBs
I think LJ will either be traded or cut. Even if the Chiefs don’t win the grievance case, why would we want to keep a guy who hates being here. Like Hailey said, he wants players who want to be with the Kansas City Chiefs, disgruntled Larry does not. I know a lot of guys previously were knocking on Kolby, but the guy has only had a short time in the NFL, and I think he could be good if he can bounce back from injury. Charles is a great guy for swing passes out of the backfield, but we all know he is no Maurice Jones-Drew. I would love the Chiefs to get a Brandon Jacobs-type, and I really haven’t researched enough to see if any were available in FA or the draft. Whatever happens, we definitely need to get the O-line to start working as a team instead of one side caving in. That will be the jumpstart to our offense.
Shake 'n' Bake
by Husker'n'Chief on Mar 28, 2009 12:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we're running mostly a spread
Jamaal Charles can be a featured back. He’s not a power back, he’s a speedster… and that’s what we would need in a spread. Then let Kolby be the pound-it-in goal line/third-and-inches running back.
by Vince D on Mar 28, 2009 2:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Spread was only implemented for Thigpen
If Cassel wins the starting job, I would venture to guess that they will run a different style of offense than the spread. It was just the rare result of an OC who was smart enough to run a system that fit the personnel he had to work with.
by criticalmass on Mar 28, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elements of the spread are here to stay
Count on it. You’ll see it run by other teams as well. Cassel even ran some last year.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
by Buck'O on Mar 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LJ is still a damn good RB
I think personally that alot of people in KC hate on LJ and for what? The fact that he got into with some women at a bar/club…..I dont condone what he did but at the same time I dont think hes just god awful….No one questions Marvin Harrisons character even though he was involved in a shooting..Leonard Little involved in a DUI/Manslaughter..accecpted with open arms…I think people are making to big a fuss about some really trivial shit…Put yourself in the situation…who knows what those women were saying/doing to him…And I know the easy thing to say is “well dont put yourself in that kind of a situation” or “well you shouldnt have been out so late/been there anyway” but come on…your 29 years old with some money your going to go do things…
When he was running for 1700 yards and scoring 20 TDs he was the best thing since sliced bread and oh my god the savior to Mr. Holmes….So because he worked so damn hard to get that big contract and then gets hurt one season and then suspended the following season mean while still having a decent year means we should just throw him under the bus….
With all that said I do think LJ will be gone from KC but not by next week….and when he does depart…..I wish him well….
by KCchief5555 on Mar 28, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would conjecture...
even though CP isn’t running the show, you’d think there might be some precedent with the Jared Allen situation last year. LJ being on 2 years probation is about as close to certain failure as you can get. Jared was on lockdown too, but I believe he is lower risk to relapse/screw up than LJ is. Carl justified dumping Jared because he was one strike away from a major suspension by the league.
I can’t imagine LJ making it 2 years without violating his probation – especially where he can’t drink. This fool is going to drink at some point because he still thinks he’s untouchable…. Pac Man Jones syndrome. I’d probably let the douche-case go just because the risk vs. reward is so skewed toward the risk side of things.
Sometimes availability outweighs ability – and LJ’s long term availability is teetering on a tight-rope that is swaying in a strong wind.
by Ochophosphate on Mar 28, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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