And with the #20 Pick in the Arrowhead Pride Community Mock Draft, the Detroit Lions Select...
by Chris Thorman on Mar 27, 2009 7:09 AM CDT
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Penn. St. DE Aaron Maybin |
UCrawford with the pick...
It's a deep draft this year, so options abound for the Detroit Lions at the number 20 pick. They still have plenty of holes to fill all across the team, particularly on offensive line, defensive line, linebacker and cornerback. On the down side, there isn't much help left for the offensive line in the first round unless the team wants to reach severely. There are a couple of defensive backs left who fill a team need that aren't reaches (Louis Delmas, Alphonso Smith) and one linebacker who would probably be an excellent fit on the inside (James Laurinitis). But somehow Penn State DE Aaron Maybin, projected as a top 15 pick, slipped through the cracks and landed on the lap of the Detroit Lions. And since the name of the game is "best player available" the Lions have decided to snatch him up and in the course of one offseason have turned the team's biggest weakness into arguably its greatest strength.
Maybin, undersized for a 3-4 lineman, will likely settle in as a pass-rushing linebacker, much as Derrick Thomas did with Gunther Cunningham's defenses of the '90s (and Jason Taylor did with the Dolphins). He will also allow the Lions to move top draft pick Aaron Curry (whose pass-rush skills are questionable) to inside linebacker, where he can put his other-worldly athleticism to good use. Using Maybin opposite 2008 team sack leader DeWayne White will help the Lions to bolster their anemic pass defense (dead last in the NFL last season) and middling pass rush (ranked #16) and should go a long way towards turning the Lions from laughingstock into sleeper team in the NFC North.
Assuming Gunther Cunningham doesn't screw it all up, of course.
Previous pick: DT Peria Jerry
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The only defense worse than the Kansas City Chiefs last year was the Lions' D. Two defensive picks in the first round makes sense here. Althougth, like with the Chiefs, the Lions have a lot of options here.
| Pick | Round 1 | Selection | Date | Community Approval |
| 1 | Detroit Lions - UCrawford | LB Aaron Curry | Weds. March 10th | |
| 2 | St. Louis Rams - Lanier63 | OT Jason Smith | Monday, March 16th | |
| 3 | Kansas City Chiefs - TonyG88 | OT Eugene Monroe | Monday, March 16th | |
| 4 | Seattle Seahawks - mikvogel | DT B.J. Raji | Tuesday, March 17th | |
| 5 | Cleveland Browns - HIV2Elway | WR Michael Crabtree | Tuesday, March 17th | |
| 6 | Cincinnati Bengals - mistamic | OT Andre Smith | Weds., March 18th | |
| 7 | Oakland Raiders - mushin | WR Jeremy Maclin | Weds., March 18th | |
| 8 | Jacksonville Jaguars - DThomasReigns | WR Percy Harvin | Thursday, March 19th | |
| 9 | Green Bay Packers - JasonM | DE/OLB Everette Brown |
Thursday, March 19th | |
| 10 | San Francisco 49ers - Harry Feltersnatch | QB Matt Stafford | Friday, March 20th | |
| 11 | Buffalo Bills - ArrowDread | LB Rey Maualuga | Friday, March 20th | |
| 12 | Denver Broncos - Keyser Sose | DE Brian Orakpo | Monday, March 23rd | |
| 13 | Washington Redskins - Official Arrowhead Pride Parade | T Michael Oher | Monday, March 23rd | |
| 14 | New Orleans Saints - cmpotter | CB Vontae Davis | Tuesday, March 24th | |
| 15 | Houston Texans - ChiefsDude | CB Malcolm Jenkins | Tuesday, March 24th | |
| 16 | San Diego Chargers - Helmets | DE Tyson Jackson | Weds., March 25th | |
| 17 | New York Jets - NJChief | QB Mark Sanchez | Weds., March 25th | |
| 18 | Chicago Bears - Holmeslice | QB Josh Freeman | Thursday, March 26th | |
| 19 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers - madtheory | DT Peria Jerry | Thursday, March 26th | |
| 20 | Detroit Lions (from Dallas) - UCrawford | DE Aaron Maybin |
Friday, March 27th | |
| 21 | Philadelphia Eagles - Chiefsfan717 | Friday, March 27th | ||
| 22 | Minnesota Vikings - kcsno56 | Monday, March 30th | ||
| 23 | New England Patriots - connerman | Monday, March 30th | ||
| 24 | Atlanta Falcons - RedNose | Tuesday, March 31st | ||
| 25 | Miami Dolphins - shraggyj | Tuesday, March 31st | ||
| 26 | Baltimore Ravens - Ben S | Weds., April 1st | ||
| 27 | Indianapolis Colts - craig in calgary | Weds., April 1st | ||
| 28 | Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) - Chiefsfan717 | Thursday, April 2nd | ||
| 29 | New York Giants - ChiefsFan90s | Thursday, April 2nd | ||
| 30 | Tennessee Titans - Lvl.99 | Friday, April 3rd | ||
| 31 | Arizona Cardinals - THE_TRUTH | Friday, April 3rd | ||
| 32 | Pittsburgh Steelers - McWhirt33 | Monday, April 6th |
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Idk
I’ve been thinking the same about the month of March. Seems like earlier this morning that it was February.
by ChiefsFan90s on Mar 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
So I have Sprint NFL Mobile on my phone, right...
and guess who the retarts that vote on that mock draft let slide all the way to this spot?
Eugene Monroe…yes, the idiots who vote on Sprint had the Lions getting the best or second best (depending on opinion) Left Tackle in the draft at pick #20!
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
yiiikes monroe at #20 pick was that poll taken from the raider site ??? those guys have no clue
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Mar 27, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I thought...these people must have no idea
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Mar 27, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd take Monroe at #1
Jason Smith is never going to live up to the hype
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Agree...If Smith goes first overall
he might end up being the Left Tackle version of Jamarcus the Hutt
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Mar 27, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Except
I get the impression that Jason Smith has a good work ethic…
Russell has NO work ethic.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Mar 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's What I'm Thinking
If I’d known he was going to drop this far, I’d have drafted Jason Smith with the top pick instead…which makes me wonder if maybe the Lions will start thinking along those lines in regards to Curry. They need a lineman as much as a linebacker.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
So This Will Give The Lions
A starting linebacking corps of Ernie Sims, Julian Peterson, Aaron Curry, and Aaron Maybin.
That has a chance of being the best LB corps in the entire league. And if Gunther Cunningham can’t coach that group of players and turn them into something pretty solid, there’s no way he can claim it’s anyone’s fault but his own.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
With Sims as the weakside backer
Maybin could play end with his hand on the ground most of the time. He’ll never be in the game on running downs, but with those linebackers, he doesn’t need to be. Curry and Sims can play any LB position and Peterson can drop back in coverage as well as he can rush the QB.
Now they just need 10 players on offense to play with Calvin Johnson
Make That 9
Kevin Smith is a very promising young running back…he had a better season than Marshawn Lynch and Matt Forte when you adjust for touches. He’s underrated because a) he plays for the Lions, and b) Marinelli stupidly split his carries last year with Rudi Johnson (who was washed up). If he slips to me in the 6th round of my fantasy draft (I’ve already got 3 RBs and 2 WRs) I’m snagging him.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
wow
that’s all I can say WOW, with those LB that defense should be in the top half of the league.
When deep space exploration ramps up, it'll be the corporations that name everything, the IBM Stellar Sphere, the Microsoft Galaxy, Planet Starbucks.
I'd be fine with 9-7 or 10-6 and competiting for the divsion title
I'll give you Smith
He is a solid back. Maurice Morris should be a good compliment to him.
And let’s make it 8. I forgot about poor Jeff Backus, who is still solid despite suffering in Detroit for a decade.
Gosder Cherilus Might Develop Into A Good RT
He was only a rookie last year. We’ll see though. They could definitely use help on the o-line, though. Backus is decent at LT, but they probably want to upgrade. Or at least get him a better guard on the left.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
I Like Morris As A Complement Too
They made a good signing with him…he’ll provide solid carries as a change of pace guy to give Smith a breather and keep his legs fresh. I expect that Smith will see the lion’s share of carries, though…he thrives as a feature back and he’s pretty complete with his skill set. He’s a good receiver as well as a good runner and he’s got enough power to play down at the goal-line.
I think he’ll be the surprise stud of 2009 in fantasy football.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
One thing that struck me watching Smith last season
was how big he is. He has the frame to be an every down back, that’s for sure.
The Biggest Concern With Him
Is that he was absolutely abused by George O’Leary at UCF. He got an insane amount of carries his senior year (450). That would have represented the NFL record for carries, and it’s largely why Smith plummeted on draft day.
On the plus side, though, he seems to have adjusted fine to the NFL and didn’t display any lingering after-effects last season. His ypc were good for a rookie and his carries were low because of the platoon (the only good thing to come from Rudi Johnson’s tenure) so there may not be a detrimental effect to him from that year.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
The Difference Was
It was the general consensus at the time that Hali was a reach as a first-rounder. Maybin’s a better player.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Understood
Penn State’s had issues with players going pro. Curtis Enis, Ki-Jana Carter, Tony Sacca, and of course Todd Blackledge.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Clarification
Penn State’s had some pretty high profile busts.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
That's Not School Specific, Though
It’s the individual in that case, not the school. :)
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Yup
But they’ve had good players come out of there too. Kerry Collins has had a solid career. So has Bobby Engram. So did Jack Ham, Mike Munchak, Franco Harris, Lenny Moore, and Shane Conlan.
Basically, Penn State’s had a lot of busts, but they’ve also turned out a lot of good football players for the NFL as well…it just depends on the individual.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Oh, same with any big time school that brings in and churns out that many elite athletes
They all produce booms and busts.
I just wanted the opportunity to rag on Courtney Brown
…and DJ Doziers 3 month baseball career with the Mets.
Fair Enough
Yeah, Brown was a huge bust…but then it’s the Browns and they screw up the draft all the time. Even when they make a good choice, they follow it up with unbelievable stupidity. Like when they (wisely) drafted Tim Couch to be their franchise QB and then didn’t draft an offensive lineman with a first day pick for the next four years (by which time Couch was a physical wreck).
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Maybe the Lions will trade all their remaining picks for Cutler?
=)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
It'll Be Daunte Culpepper
Mayhew is really high on him for some reason…I think he’ll be the starter for two more years. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them draft a QB later on, though…Drew Stanton doesn’t look to be in their long-term plans.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Solid Pick UC
If I may have your opinion, if the Chiefs were able to trade down into the teens, and were set on picking a 3-4 OLB pass rusher, would you pick Maybin or Everette Brown? Or someone else?
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
I'd Go Maybin
I like him okay, although he does seem to be more of a pass-rush specialist than a complete linebacker. But that’s okay.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
Why Maybin over Brown?
And to keep the discussion simpler, let’s say I’m only interested in them as “strong at pass rush, weak in coverage” Merriman-type OLB’s
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Mar 27, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I Like Brown
But Maybin was ranked a little bit higher, his numbers were a little better in his first year as a full-time starter, he comes out of a school that’s turned out good pro linebackers for a long time, Maybin’s a year younger, and the last DE/OLB that Florida State turned out (Kamerion Wimberly) didn’t exactly set the world on fire in the pros.
Statistically, they produced about the same, but Maybin broke into double digit sacks his second year whereas Brown did it in his third so I think he’s got a higher ceiling…although I wouldn’t be unhappy with Brown either. There’s not really a lot of difference between them.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
I haven't researched Maybin much
but I am really impressed with Brown’s other qualities (the work ethic, durability, and commitment mentioned in the mock draft article on him here at AP)
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Mar 27, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
What do you guys think
of Clay Matthews? Too much of an unknown? I know he’s only started 10 games but for some reason, that’s part of his appeal to me. He seems to be a late bloomer with unknown potential. I guess I’m just a fan of the underdog.
I Like Him
Just not this high up. But I think he’ll make some team happy.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
No OT for the Lions?
They need it desperately and Ebon Britton is still on the board for some reason
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
They Desperately Need A Lot
But Maybin’s the highest-ranked player remaining, they had the worst defense in the league last year, they need to upgrade the pass rush and the linebacking corps, and they can live with Jeff Backus at LT.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
I guess
but I’ve had the theory of piecing together you strength in the first then using the rest of the draft on the opposite side of the ball and sleepers. The Lions offense was their only semi-bright spot in 2008. If they had a solid line, they already have a pro bowl potential WR and a legitimate RB, linebackers are a dime a dozen these days but I guess DE’s are not.. But isn’t Maybin projected to slide to OLB?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
According To The Guys At "Pride Of Detroit"
The Lions are likely going to run a hybrid 4-3/3-4 defense and they’ll need a decent linebacking corps. Their best pass-rusher last season was DE DeWayne White (6.5 sacks) and Curry (who I selected with the top pick) wasn’t a pass-rusher in college. Maybin would be a pass-rushing linebacker most often in this scenario, allowing Curry to slide to inside linebacker alongside Julian Peterson (acquired this offseason).
In reality, I don’t think there’s a chance that Maybin slides this far. Ideally, the Lions would be able to get ahold of Tyson Jackson from LSU, who fits as a 3-4 end, but he was gone already in our mock and they’d be reaching for Robert Ayers from Tennessee. Britton is a consideration as well, but he’s projected as a RT and they’ve got last year’s first rounder, Gosder Cherilus already manning that position, plus there’s no guarantee that Britton is a better LT than Jeff Backus (who they just extended) so all things considered they address one of the biggest team needs (pass rushing LB) with the best available player remaining on the board (Maybin) and see if they can turn Cherilus into an outstanding RT (which he might be) and live with Backus at LT. It’s unlikely they’re going to give up on Cherilus after one year anyway.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
3. Maurice Carthon will be the most hated man on the Chiefs' coaching staff within two years.
I liked your pick here
Perhaps only because I too was put in a position to pick the BPA when I really would’ve been happy going in a different direction. One things for sure, Gunther loves you.
Don't mean to be negative towards the other drafters here...
But there is no chance in hell Maybin drops to #20.
None. For that reason alone this is a great pick.
A no brainer pick.
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