Defenders who are knocked to the ground no longer can lunge into quarterbacks if the play is still going on. Kansas City Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard did just that on the hit that ended Brady's season almost before it began, and NFL officiating director Mike Pereira placed such plays in the player safety category.
NFL owners place curbs on hits -- baltimoresun.com
That's a weird rule change. Watch the video.
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Little Girly Dresses need apply
This is what we should have our qb’s of the nfl wear! LITTLE GIRLY DRESSES and that way we can tell who the qb is and wont try and tackle him~
If you get knocked to the ground, dont hit the dude in the dress!
if you come around the end and you have a clear shot, dont hit the dude in the dress, in the head, or dont slam the dude in the dress down to the ground~ thus you get a penalty!
YOU DONT WANNA DIRTY THE PURDY DRESS!
sheesh, what a way to say to the fans of the nfl, WE VALUE OUR DRESSES, they look good on the qb!
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Mar 25, 2009 7:42 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This was complete gibberish
and we like it. +1
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Mar 25, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate that
in a small gibberish kinda way~
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Mar 25, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you read kansan_chief stamentment in a bad impression of arnold the gov schwartza whatever
its waaaay toooo fuuuunny.hahah
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
U laugh at me~?
You do know * ILL BE BACK *
dont you? lol
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Mar 25, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to change the subject
but did I read you are from chanute? I am from coffeyville, not far away at all.
by dr. kill 4 on Mar 25, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup~
But beware of letting some of these chiefs fans know ya from a small town~ I think they suffer from smalltownitis~ or sumpin like that~
Cville is a damn good sports system ( h.s. college ), Do you enjoy watching JC football? I want it in Chanute but ya know how it goes, IN TIME maybe~
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Mar 25, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I actually work with the high school sports programs as their sideline doctor, and help out some with the college. we had a good year last year for high school football, and a terrible year for juco football, but we have a new coach and staff, kinda like the chiefs!
by dr. kill 4 on Mar 25, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I coach
the Chanute Aviators, A Sr. Babe Ruth team that consist of 16-19 year olds~ We play down in C/ville quite a bit during the summer~ ill let ya know when if you’d like to come out and say hi to a fellow chiefs fan~
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Mar 25, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just let me know
when you are going to be here and we can exchange contact info.
by dr. kill 4 on Mar 25, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NFL operates just like the government:
Take one “shit happens” moment out of a plethora of otherwise unremarkable incidents and make a rule against it. All because of ONE play out of a season of literally thousands.
“Rule of thumb: When someone says, "There ought to be a law…” there probably ought NOT to be."
-Penn & Teller
by jbj8609 on Mar 25, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Penn & Teller Rule
I was just watching their episode last night on “cryptozoology”. Which is apparently a euphemism for “fake science for incredibly gullible people”.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 25, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
Ever been to Boston? The “Big Dig” was the project that moved the expressway through the city from elevated roads and bridges to an underground tunnel running beneath the downtown. A government project that cost billions and billions more than ever anticipated, and with some parts so shoddily done that not only does it leak but a ceiling tile collapsed and killed a driver.
The referees have trouble enough following the rules already in place, that the last thing the league needs is even more rules added on. Why have the refs even more involved than they have to be? I like the analogy with the govt. because that’s where it seems to be headed. Let the players play.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Mar 25, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blockers
If they are going to enforce this there has to be a rule that the blockers have to let the defenders off the ground. The NE player was laying on top of Pollard, is he supposed to stop playing and just lay there because he is around the QB? I don’t want to see players hurt and lots of times QBs are in a vunerable position but they ARE football players.
In a couple of years we should just put flags on the QBs and be done with it. Some of the big QBs like Rothlesburger take advantage of the rules to constantly escape sacks knowing the defenders have to be carefull to make sure they have not thrown the ball or that they are below the knee or around the head. The QBs that are as big as DEs should not get the same protection because it takes a lot more to tackle them.
by tevans96 on Mar 25, 2009 7:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben
Avoids sacks by being a beast.
You’re just jealous. lol.
This rule is stupid. If quarterbacks are getting hurt maybe its a sign that they need to move from being skinny little tom brady pansies. Seriously. Teams just need to adapt to the game and get bigger guys to play quarterback.
by The Steel City on Mar 25, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta Hand It To Ben
He is a beast man. I respect him because I don’t think he is the best QB but he makes his way by being a gamer.
He might not have all the passing tools of a Tom Brady but he buys his receivers so much damn time when he really needs to that he hits them for monster plays when it counts.
I think this is VERY important for a QB. Remember Eli shaking off that sack in the Super Bowl against the Pats? That was the play of the game right there. He should have been on his ass. Instead he kept hope alive, heaved up a wounded duck and they won the SB.
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Mar 25, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Let Roethlisberger play more than one full season before knocking Brady.
by Joel Thorman on Mar 25, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I was running a team.
I would take Roethlisberger over Brady any day.
Brady gets hit in the knee and he is out for an entire season. Ben gets knocked out with his third concussion and is on the field 2 weeks later.
And your right about buying time. He makes plays happen. One of my favorite parts of the SB was when he avoided like 3 sacks and got it to heath miller on 3rd down.
I hope I can sit next to some of you guys at the Pitt/chiefs game this summer!
by The Steel City on Mar 25, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if you were running a life
We think we’d all agree that getting soft tissue massages from Gisele in San Sebastian is preferably to wondering why ice cream man no give big boy ben two choco tacos!
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Mar 25, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
That’d be the only soft tissue massage that’d actually cause soft tissues to stiffen up.
by JacinB on Mar 25, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gisele is hot and everything
But so is missy
http://sports.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/missy_ben.jpg
by The Steel City on Mar 25, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't taste nipples out of a straw
by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Mar 25, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahah thats too goood parade
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah
I’m out numbered! I’m a life-long steelers fan who got stuck in Kansas. So now I’m hooked on chiefs football.
But its hard to defend my boys when there are so many of you that are just jealous!
Haha. Would you rather have Roethlesberger or Cassel?
by The Steel City on Mar 25, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
roth
but its not like he is the greatist qb ever neither is cassel they pretty much are the same qb in my opinion ben is not as mobile as cassel but the guy just wins i dont know tough call.
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the first person i thought of was big ben
when i heard about this rule scrambling qb will benifit the most from this rule because they can always step up threw the pocket and not worry about a guy who has fallen at the line and trying to reach him as he passes by .this is a horrible rule it will effect the game so much. especially after a blind side block that knocks the player down ben runs by him and the guy is pretty much out the play. he cant like make a move from his knees as an extra effort to get the sack bad rule very bad rule but scrambling qbs will benifit from this all day long.
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't put up the numbers
That I would like to see yet, but that’s just him being him and playing steelers football. It’s never about the numbers. We are never statistically the best team, yet we have 6 rings to wear.
Ill post about this again after this season when we see how both ben and matt do, but I think Cassel is going to be a huge flop and we will be praising Bones and his awesomeness.
by The Steel City on Mar 25, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know haley has made alot of qbs good
warner was on the outs when he came to arizona haley got him back on the map and if thigpen can do well with gailey making the calls i would have to say cassel will be good. But ya steelers just get the job done they play winter ruff tuff football they make plays when it count even if its not the prettyest they get the job done and thats what counts . hey i dont hate on them they have a good franchise and understand what it takes to put up a contender every year. and what most shocks me is look at their coaches they dont change much they have only as a franchise had a few philosophys play d run the ball ground and pound . suprised the league hasnt caught on to there formula sooner . instead you have teams with new coaches new system every year.
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben
I like Ben I just have seen several times where he will be in the grasp of one defender and the others pull up because of the rules about hitting a QB when he is in the grasp of another player, then he breaks the takle and makes a play. I think he is great for doing it I just think it puts the defenders at too much of a disadvantage.
by tevans96 on Mar 25, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you chris for putting this up
The nfl game is just horrible i cannot wait until a key play in the super bowl comes down to a play like pollard and they throw the flag on it a riot will break out. pollard was playing until the whistle blew he had a shot at brady not to hurt him but to make a play . every coach in america teaches to play till the whistle blows and also if you get knocked down to get up and try to make a play. this is horrible we all need to get pitchforks out and blow torches and go to jeff fishers house because he is ruining the nfl along with other owners i know you have investments in your players but we the fans have investments in the game .
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
What are they trying to turn this game into. I get it, there needs to be some protection of players, but jeez these guys aren’t small, they aren’t weak (unless we are talking about Brodie and in that case a strong gust of wind will knock his leg off, so no rule is gonna protect him), they get paid more than our national deficit and they get payed to play in a Full Contact Game. WTF? Soon, Professional Soccer will have more legal hits than Football!
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 25, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love rugby those guy dont even wear much pads let alone helmets and those guys
are not crying thats a mans game.
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Rugby
You also have different rules regarding tackling, there’s no blocking allowed, and the game’s not played at as high of a speed.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 25, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Biggest Problem With This Rule
Is that they’ve built it off a sample size of one incident. It’s not like there’s a rash of these, like with the rule outlawing diving at a QBs knees when you’re not coming off the ground (which I think is a legitimate rule) or helmet slaps from pass-rushing defenders (also legit). You’ve got one QB who got injured on this play without malicious intent from the defender and now they’ve got a rule that completely negates a defender’s ability to rush the passer if the blocker knocks him to the ground. It’s stupid.
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
2. The Lions will draft Matt Stafford, the Rams will draft Jason Smith, and the Chiefs will draft either Aaron Curry or Eugene Monroe.
by UCrawford on Mar 25, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again I agree
It’s stupid and emasculates the defender’s ability to play. I mean it’s fine and all ( to an extent) to have the game slowly angling towards offensive friendly. To an extent. But this is getting ridiculous. Half of the fun of watching football is watching the defense do their thing. Watching big hits, shut down players, trash talking, run stopping, interception enabling plays. That happens cuz the D gets in the face of the O and causes mayhem. What is the league looking at here? If they keep this up, might as well get rid of the D entirely and just have offenses go onto the field. Then we can call it American Cricket and prepare for games that are days long.
Ok I’m getting ahead of myself here. Look, what makes Football great is the competition, the physical chess match between offenses and defenses. The point is it’s physical. Let them play damnit.
by Eastcoastransplant on Mar 25, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And Pollard still had a guy on him.
by FrankPitts on Mar 25, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buuuuuuuuuuuull Shit
Next thing you know, defenders won’t be able to “approach the QB in a threatening manner while he is throwing the ball,” because it will be dangerous to his psyche thus causing a possible interception!
Jesus jumping Justin Medlock on a stick guys!
Now offensive lineman are going to do anything they can to just get a guy on the ground instead of actually blocking him. Watch for a huge increase in tripping penalties this year. Pollard was going for his waste till that fat ass Patriots O-linemen sat on him mid-lunge.
Why not just institute a rule that Patriots lineman aren’t allowed to be too fat, too old and too slow to block for them? I guess that would disqualify the Pats picking up Damien McIntosh in free agency.
If Vince Lombardi wasn’t decomposed and had just had a steak dinner in his coffin and was wearing pants, he would have just crapped them. Then, he would have rolled over in his grave to rub his face in it.
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Mar 25, 2009 7:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im telling ya~
They need Little Girly Dresses on~
but I hear what ya saying, Part of a OT’s job will now include, KNOCK the DT/DE to the GROUND, dont worry bout blocking him, just KNOCK him to the GROUND~ no need to BLOCK?
Ol' Kansan' Chief
by Kansan_Chief on Mar 25, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im with you guys this blowwws
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty sure shoulder tackles are next out the door
Its going to be changed watch . Im calling it mark my words within the next couple years you are going to have to tackle a guy no shoulder tackles any more. shoulder tackles alone take out half the guys .its going to be just regular tackeling. mark my worrrds.
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Killing me too
I understand wanting to keep players safe but they are just getting rediculous this year. This rule is TOTAL garbage for reasons already listed in the other posts. I also think the no wedge rule on kickoffs is insane.
Ten sacks in a season! For crying out loud that's what I used to average per game using DT in Tecmo Bowl!
by KCporkchop on Mar 25, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You have got to be kidding...
This league has a Tom Brady fetish…
by ill_spec on Mar 25, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see if I understand this correctly;
Bernard Pollard was doing his job according to the rules. He actually in some peoples eyes went beyond the call of duty by doing everything he could “LEGALLY” to get to the QB before the play was over in the backfield.
Now the NFL wants to tell players, you only have to give enough effort on any given play until we determine that your efforts could be detrimental to the QB, then you can just lay on the ground until the play is over.
I am not going to question the manhood of Brady, but I agree with those above that everything that can be done legal or not to a Defensive player entering the backfield, will be done to get him on the ground as long as the QB still has the ball.
There is no way they looked at past statistics to see how many QB’s have been injured from a player laying on the ground wanting to do his best to get to the QB. If anything, Pollard should have been awarded an “at a boy” by the League for his efforts on the play. In a time when so many NFL players are screwing up the NFL image of old hard working players, now we are asking the extra effort players, to only play half speed.
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Mar 25, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll question his manhood.
I don’t think he’s got any. And, I think that the pansies up in the front office of the NFL who came up with this ’Don’t hurt Brady’ rule are equally lacking.
The guy’s a football player. Injuries are a part of the job. If you can’t handle that, or if you don’t want to get injured, watch the games from the safety of your couch like the rest of us and go bone your supermodel girlfriend at halftime.
by JacinB on Mar 25, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I took that halftime approach, I would miss the second half sleeping :)
"But what do I know, I'm AP's new assclown and I’m like an empty room with a large ECHO"
by Lanier63 on Mar 25, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do there job
If refswill call penalties for takedowns by offensive players maybe DB’s wouldnt be lunging from the ground at QB’s knees!
by dklogue1 on Mar 25, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What Constitutes
a lunge?
So a player cannot lunge at the QB when he has been knocked to the ground. Obviously this doesn’t mean that when you get knocked down you are out of the play.
Does it mean you have to get up and be on your feet before you can attempt to sack the QB?
Do you have to take a step?
Technically, in my view of a lunge, even if you get to your feet, you have to take a step. If I get knocked down and I stand back up and Brady is moving away from me and I dive after him, isn’t that still me rising and lunging at Brady?
When a defender gets kncoked to the ground rushing the passer sometimes their only option to escape the blocker and keep presure on the QB and flush him out of the pocket is to keep scrambling on the ground twoard the QB.
Guys aren’t going to be able to do that now. What are they going to do? Lunge away from the QB to escape the blocker, then run around the blocker again and try to chase the QB?
Lunge can be defined as:
A sudden thrust or pass, as with a sword.
A sudden forward movement or plunge.
(from answers.com)
Should we call this the “No Sudden Moves around Tom Brady Rule?”
Does this mean just that you can’t lunge from the ground, as on on your knees?
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Mar 25, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Officially Declare this Rule
The ’"No Sudden Moves Around Tom Brady Rule"
Paddy
by Patrick Allen on Mar 25, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
toom fucking brady
you know what fuck that guy. im sorry im dropping f bombs right now but dude how man rules are they going to change for this guy i know he is the nfl face and the guy has good taste in woman but jeez give me a break how many rules are they going to change so this guy can win every game its bad enough he has had an elite line his entire career and you can barely get to the guy as it is . The nfl is getting just horrible .
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The cut block???
So if a player gets cut I suppose you have to just lay there? The o-lineman is going to not let you up.
by FrankPitts on Mar 25, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's football
Guys are going to get hurt.
by FrankPitts on Mar 25, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the same thing
Jared Allen kept getting fined for last season…the Left tackle would knock him to the ground, and he’d lunge at the QB’s legs.
Pollard’s was a bit different…he was being held and was crawling towards Brady.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Mar 25, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As much as I hate to say it...
Troy Polamalu is right (I can’t stand him because of his hair). Bunch of sissies.
My crystal ball says Jay Cutler cries himself to sleep every night.
by IISaiNtII on Mar 25, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats another one the hair rule
like if you going to have hair like theo huckstable expect that crap to be pulled out if your on the field . And when the guy pulls you by your hair dont jump up and scream to the ref that the guy pulled your hair when it covers your entire back.
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "Bernard Pollard" rule
At least he will retire famous for something
by saskwatch on Mar 25, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the sad thing is this was one case on bernard it wasnt like he was known for this.
i could understand if he was like roy williams making a living off bad tackeling using the horse collar . jeeeez roy was ruining careers once they put that rule in effect the guys career was over .
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by sexassassin on Mar 25, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice soybon thats the nfl in two years flag football
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